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Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 8:42:50 AM   
Yachtie


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Status: offline 		Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee said that the new Congressional Full Employment Caucus will “give President Obama a number of executive orders that he can sign.”

Jackson Lee added that writing up executive orders “should be our number one agenda.”

Congress should be disbanded. All's needed is a new and improved Office of Executive Orders. Gives me a warm fuzzy. It does, it does

Next up could be the Office of Executive Opinions. Bye bye SCOTUS. I mean, why not? Obama said there is not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS scandal. So, make it so

Whee, this executivising is easy

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 8:44:48 AM   
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We`ll fix it he old fashioned way in November..

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 9:25:33 AM   
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Whee, this executivising is easy

Fear not! The Democrat Utopia is on the horizon!

Reminds me of the Dennis Leary rant in Demolition Man...

"I've seen the future. You know what it is? It's a 47 year old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer wiener".

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 10:28:22 AM   
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This one is...


We`ll fix it he old fashioned way in November..

Well no...that's congressional.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 11:36:08 AM   
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Whee, this executivising is easy

Fear not! The Democrat Utopia is on the horizon!

Reminds me of the Dennis Leary rant in Demolition Man...

"I've seen the future. You know what it is? It's a 47 year old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer wiener".



As opposed to a Republican utopia? No health care for the poor, only acceptable religion in christian, civil rights determined by the bible, no welfare of any kind, no minimum wage, women having no choice about their reproductive health, a new theocracy in power and everyone forced to worship at the foot of St Ronnie statues.

Since I dont like either option, I think anarchy would be better, it sure seems to be working in Somalia.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 12:59:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well just remove all the Republican/Tea Party from Congress and things will improve dramatically.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 1:35:58 PM   
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Funny how when W was issuing all those executive orders saying he had no intent to obey laws passed by congress it was perfectly ok with cons but President Obama says he intends to sign some, not contravening any laws, and suddenly it is the end of the Republic.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 2:20:54 PM   
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Funny how when W was issuing all those executive orders saying he had no intent to obey laws passed by congress it was perfectly ok with cons but President Obama says he intends to sign some, not contravening any laws, and suddenly it is the end of the Republic.


Was there liberal outrage regarding Bush's EO's? Bush had nearly 300. Obama has just over half that number (yup, he has fewer), and neither even comes close to FDR's total (almost 3500) or JFK's rate (over 1200 in less than one term). And, just so you know, I didn't look back at all the Presidents, just the ones on the first page of the Disposition Tables.


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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 2:39:43 PM   
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Funny how when W was issuing all those executive orders saying he had no intent to obey laws passed by congress it was perfectly ok with cons but President Obama says he intends to sign some, not contravening any laws, and suddenly it is the end of the Republic.


Was there liberal outrage regarding Bush's EO's? Bush had nearly 300. Obama has just over half that number (yup, he has fewer), and neither even comes close to FDR's total (almost 3500) or JFK's rate (over 1200 in less than one term). And, just so you know, I didn't look back at all the Presidents, just the ones on the first page of the Disposition Tables.


There certainly was over the ones where he asserted he could ignore the law. The rest?

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 2:39:48 PM   
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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 3:35:24 PM   
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Funny how when W was issuing all those executive orders saying he had no intent to obey laws passed by congress it was perfectly ok with cons but President Obama says he intends to sign some, not contravening any laws, and suddenly it is the end of the Republic.

Was there liberal outrage regarding Bush's EO's? Bush had nearly 300. Obama has just over half that number (yup, he has fewer), and neither even comes close to FDR's total (almost 3500) or JFK's rate (over 1200 in less than one term). And, just so you know, I didn't look back at all the Presidents, just the ones on the first page of the Disposition Tables.

There certainly was over the ones where he asserted he could ignore the law. The rest?


Like...?

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As you know FDR was prez for 4 terms and he had a little kerfluffle on his hands called WW2. Cmon! Give Frank a break


That little kerfluffle only netted us just over 900 EO's (including all of 1941's EO's, even though, technically, WWII hadn't happened for us until quite late in 1941). So, 2600 in his first 8 years (all prior to WWII). Or, are you saying that I should spot him some since he was too busy with WWII to pump up his totals?


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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 3:44:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		You all are missing the salient point.

Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee said that the new Congressional Full Employment Caucus will “give President Obama a number of executive orders that he can sign.”

How many EOs of ~Bush came out of a Congressional Caucus?

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 5:02:55 PM   
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SCOTUS


Can't you Americans come up with a better acronym than that? It sounds like some nasty infection of the bollocks. Just saying.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 5:32:19 PM   
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Funny how when W was issuing all those executive orders saying he had no intent to obey laws passed by congress it was perfectly ok with cons but President Obama says he intends to sign some, not contravening any laws, and suddenly it is the end of the Republic.

Was there liberal outrage regarding Bush's EO's? Bush had nearly 300. Obama has just over half that number (yup, he has fewer), and neither even comes close to FDR's total (almost 3500) or JFK's rate (over 1200 in less than one term). And, just so you know, I didn't look back at all the Presidents, just the ones on the first page of the Disposition Tables.

There certainly was over the ones where he asserted he could ignore the law. The rest?


Like...?

His signing statement attached to the defense authorization in 2008 amongst many others.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 6:38:47 PM   
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You all are missing the salient point.

Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee said that the new Congressional Full Employment Caucus will “give President Obama a number of executive orders that he can sign.”

How many EOs of ~Bush came out of a Congressional Caucus?


A good analogy would be a boat leaking and in trouble with many precious lives aboard...

What the republicans are doing is tantamount to interfering with the boat and crew`s rescue effort...

In real life, anyone interfering in a rescue or hampering it would get anywhere from beat up......to shot-up....I would prefer the "2nd Amendment remedy" as cons put it.

In any case....NO ONE is going to back the blood guzzling psychopaths in the geopee-pee, who`re trying to stick it to the unemployed.



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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 6:42:26 PM   
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SCOTUS


Can't you Americans come up with a better acronym than that? It sounds like some nasty infection of the bollocks. Just saying.



It's a great acronym, considering they have a lot of balls and they stink.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 6:59:39 PM   
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Originally, Congress had the power to enact bills, while the President did nothing more than sign or veto. Slowly, over the years, the Executive branch has become more powerful while Congress has become increasingly impotent. For me, the low point was when Nixon created the concept of "executive privilege", which basically means that the President has the ability to declare himself above the law.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 7:08:36 PM   
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Whee, this executivising is easy

Fear not! The Democrat Utopia is on the horizon!

Reminds me of the Dennis Leary rant in Demolition Man...

"I've seen the future. You know what it is? It's a 47 year old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer wiener".

As opposed to a Republican utopia? No health care for the poor, only acceptable religion in christian, civil rights determined by the bible, no welfare of any kind, no minimum wage, women having no choice about their reproductive health, a new theocracy in power and everyone forced to worship at the foot of St Ronnie statues.

Since I dont like either option, I think anarchy would be better, it sure seems to be working in Somalia.

I agree (except for the anarchy part). Since so many piss and moan about the two parties, you'd think more would have the guts to step into the center...the two parties, their bribery for votes, and their loyalists all be damned.

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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 7:11:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Too bad for Nixon, that privilege is cancelled out by checks and balances. I dislike him personally for his withdrawl from the Bretton Woods but I digress.

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WORST. CONGRESS. EVER.
But please, don't take my word for it. Take the word from the Washington Times.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/9/capitol-hill-least-productive-congress-ever-112th-/?page=all
But how many people will be voting in November?
I won't get my hopes too high up on a sudden collective lack of apathy for Congress denying healthcare for 9/11 responders YEARS ago and still getting reelected by a small fraction of the voting population.


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RE: Congress is obsolete - 2/5/2014 8:22:33 PM   
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Whee, this executivising is easy

Fear not! The Democrat Utopia is on the horizon!

Reminds me of the Dennis Leary rant in Demolition Man...

"I've seen the future. You know what it is? It's a 47 year old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer wiener".

As opposed to a Republican utopia? No health care for the poor, only acceptable religion in christian, civil rights determined by the bible, no welfare of any kind, no minimum wage, women having no choice about their reproductive health, a new theocracy in power and everyone forced to worship at the foot of St Ronnie statues.

Since I dont like either option, I think anarchy would be better, it sure seems to be working in Somalia.

I agree (except for the anarchy part). Since so many piss and moan about the two parties, you'd think more would have the guts to step into the center...the two parties, their bribery for votes, and their loyalists all be damned.


Executive orders?! I`m shocked!

Forgetting the nauseating hypocrisy ....let`s compare the executive orders of say Obama and shrub.

Shrub did a lot of actual damage(dead Americans) through his EOs and his abuse of the war powers act....put our economy to death by a thousand cuts....

Obama is helping Americans....and stopping the republicans from hurting us.....the government shutdown being the most illustrative but far from the only example.

The lunatic fringe is now threatening another default....


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