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Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 9:45:10 AM

smileforme50

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(I hope I spelled that right)

As a logical next step to the "enjoy inflicting pain" question.....Do you enjoy seeing your sub/slave cry as a result of pain you have inflicted on her? Do you find her tears to be exciting....arousing.....or do they elicit some other reaction?

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 10:05:50 AM

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Come on now, seriously?

They are kneeling, quaking with their guts trembling and their loins throbbing as they look up at you with mascara stained cheeks and raccoon eyes. A tear drop falls from their quivering lip to land on a bruised and abused chest. When the tear rolls past the bloody knife trail it turns pink before finally falling into the pool of sweat, piss, cum and blood on the floor that gives testimony to the intensity of what just happened. A primal cry, an uncontrollable sobbing with mixed emotions from the release . . . pain, joy, fear, bliss . . . freedom, all rolled into one big emotional ball and tears are streaming down, wetting their chest, falling from their nipples and soaking you when you hug them with reassurance. Yeah . . . I like it when they cry.

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Crying is romantic . . .
Have you ever seen a slave love her Master so deeply that she cries from the emotional release after a good beating? Have you ever seen a slave feel so passionate that she crosses the pleasure/pain threshold and cums so intensely that it makes her weep? Have you ever seen trust so deep and complete that tears flow when she follows Master faithfully and overcomes her fears?

Crying is sexy . . .
Tear filled eyes big as saucers, looking up at you. Cheap mascara stains trailing down over her cheeks. A tear hangs precariously in the balance from her pouting, swollen and quivering lips. A trickle of blood and cum leak from the corner of her mouth as a testament to the violent sex. She is sex personified and her face and the tears upon it bear evidence as proof to the sacrifice she has just made for passion. She is someone that gave it all until she cried.

I like it when they cry . . .
I thrive on the connection, the bonds between a Master and slave and between a sadist and masochist. I love seeing the look on my slave's face when I see that I control her and what she is feeling. I like to cross Masterism with sadism while I explore emotional fears, expand physical limits, break mental boundaries and fulfill forbidden desires. I passionately mix love, torture, sex, fear, pleasure, pain, anguish, lust, trust and I test faith. I want to see tears of joy, tears of pain, tears of love, tears of pleasure and tears from fear... I like it when they cry.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 10:42:58 AM

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No, I don't. If they're crying more than a tear or two, I've pushed too far.

I like to see them fight the restraints to avoid the pain. I like to see the fear and anger in their eyes at each new torture I have planned for them. To see their jaw lock and their eyes squeeze as a way to get through. I like to see the fire of anger and frustration and barely restrained power in their eyes. To know that I'm controlling the most wild animal, the most attractive person on planet earth at that moment. I like the see their wince and hear them muffle their own shout but fail miserably and I hear their groans trying to deal with it.

I like to teach a person what they can endure, that they are stronger than they believe, and they give me the gift of seeing them in their strong/challenged/captured/hurting/fighting/angry/frustrated state

If a person is crying I'd generally say I broke them, and that's not what I'm after. That's the exact opposite.

Do the tears elicit some reaction from me? They're my queue to safeword as a top and end the scene, and start aftercare. I would have gone past where I was comfortable, and I'd be broken from it myself.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 11:08:14 AM

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Interesting POVs. I'm now getting back into it after 22 years. My fiancé of the time and I stumbled into BDSM by accident. She loved being bound to the bed, and one day I brought in a large butcher's knife and teasingly ran the blade over her tits, leaving white streaks. Afterwards she said to me, "Why didn't you cut me? I wanted you too, but I was afraid to ask."

The next time I brought in the knife, I wasn't sure how to without damage and I flicked the end of her nipple and a drop of blood came out, and she had an orgasm. Long story short we went to surgical needles, choke holds, hair pulling, face slapping - if it wasn't good enough she'd say, "Is that the best you can do?"- each time I'd bring her to tears she'd go wild and have sobbing & throbbing orgasms. I became very turned on by her tears dropping down onto me, and they drove me to fuck her even harder.

Yet, when I saw her cry outside our 'fun' I hated it. I became very protective of her, no sexual thoughts. For me it depends upon where and why she's crying.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 11:26:27 AM

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The pain I have experienced have come from whips, canes, etc but never to the point of crying. And I prefer it that way. I'm not into extreme torture.

I have had a few tears from the intensity of the moment,

But I sobbed over being humiliated. I was heartbroken. Needless to say humility is a hard limit for me. It was not from having to walk on all fours up the stars or being fed from the floor. It was a sadistic, mean statement. Is there a difference between mean and sadistic?

So I see tears as coming from different areas. Maybe some tears are not good ones. Can doms tell the difference?

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 12:23:13 PM

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I don't really like it, but sometimes it's necessary. If my sub is in a bad headspace and won't get out of it, tears are a part of clearing it out.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 12:47:51 PM

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I love these responses so far....very interesting and enlightening....thing I hadn't thought about.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 1:23:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: smileforme50

(I hope I spelled that right)

As a logical next step to the "enjoy inflicting pain" question.....Do you enjoy seeing your sub/slave cry as a result of pain you have inflicted on her? Do you find her tears to be exciting....arousing.....or do they elicit some other reaction?

Yes Master likes them when he inflicts them. Hell, I'd go so far as saying even sometimes when he doesn't. lol He's a sadist. What do you expect?

ETA: Yes, he knows the difference. We've been together for 8 years now. He reads me like a book. I read him like a book. There was only one time he didn't know and it was completely my fault because of something I was emotionally going through and I didn't talk to him about it. So yeah, I completely fault myself for that one. But once in 8 years I think is a pretty good run so far.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 1:28:58 PM

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The only time I have ever cried while playing was when I felt what we were doing was more punishment than fun, and they weren't good tears. My Sir stopped the play, and got to the cause of the tears - because it definitely wasn't the pain.

So for me, tears doesn't equal pain, tears equal emotional upset in a bad way.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 1:30:55 PM

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Just one more thing about tears. I like them because they are cathartic. I'm the type of person who usually bottles her emotions until something comes about that basically uncorks the bottle. Playing hard does just that. And sometimes I need that and so does he. Tears for us actually bring us closer together and more intimate. It opens up roads that had not been opened before.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 2:12:18 PM

smileforme50

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Wow....I could comment on so much that was said here I don't even know where to start.

I'm kind of like kiwi....I don't really cry from physical pain. For me, tears come from emotional upset. It actually drives me kind of crazy that I can get totally choked up and have tears coming down my cheeks when I hear certain songs or see certaing things in movies and TV.....but someone can paddle my ass until his arm falls off and I don't cry.

And I find that pretty frustrating sometimes, because there are times when like littlewonder, I really crave the catharsis....but I never get it.

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“Give it to me!” she yelled
“I’m so fucking wet! Give it to me now!”

She could scream all she wanted…..I was keeping the umbrella.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 3:49:39 PM

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Well, I enjoy it when He makes me cry. Sometimes from pain, sometimes it's more emotional. Either way, it makes me feel completely and utterly vulnerable. Though our relationship is young, and we're still figuring each other out, He is excellent at reading the tears and knowing exactly what to do once they're present.

He loves making me cry as well, for the same reasons ResidentSadist listed. I enjoy seeing how much it pleases him.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 5:51:52 PM

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I have known submissive's who cannot even get what they want from a scene unless they were made to cry, no space, nothing. Then you have the ones who absolutely do not want to cry. And of course you got the tweeners. The ones who want to be pushed to a certain limit and then want it to stop.

Basically it will all boil down to... here comes that word again... communication. For someone like RS, this has been spelled out within His dynamics (I am using Him as an example because He posted here, I am quite sure other Dominants do as well). For those who are just coming into BDSM for whatever reasons, will have to work out what it is they want. Since I play casually only with subs who are either single or with their Dom/me permission, I have a very long conversation about what they do like, what they do not like, what is completely off limits, and where are the areas I can push (of course if it is on My hard limit list it is automatically off the table).

After that it will come down to body language. This is pretty important for someone like Myself, since I do not own them, and the goal is for it to be a good experience for all involved (and being the selfish Me, to make sure I get to play with them again). This last statement is important because whenever LP and I move, She is more easily able to get a play partner. I have to be known for a while first (I know it is mostly because of the predatory nature of many men, and I am more then willing to let them get to know Me first).

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/10/2014 8:41:56 PM

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I only inflict pain as punishment for being dissident or not preforming a task properly. I don't permit crying or screaming. Crying adds three strokes to a punishment. I always give the lady 20 seconds to compose herself before I continue. I also offer the ladies the opportunity to play Domination Poker. The cards determine the type of punishment, the intensity and duration.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 12:48:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

I only inflict pain as punishment for being dissident or not preforming a task properly. I don't permit crying or screaming. Crying adds three strokes to a punishment. I always give the lady 20 seconds to compose herself before I continue. I also offer the ladies the opportunity to play Domination Poker. The cards determine the type of punishment, the intensity and duration.

In my case then you would have to beat me until I was unconscious to make the crying stop. When the tears start, I can't just switch them off no matter how much I was threatened with further pain. It's like an emotional dam burst - they go until they're all done, and it certainly wouldn't be disobedience or attitude that made me continue.

I'm with LW in that I like tears as catharsis. I think husband has mixed feelings about crying. He's not turned on by it but there's a certain intimacy in being willing to go to those dark places together. We've had incredible hot sessions with tears, and we've also had one or two where we've cut things short because it wasn't going in the direction we liked.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 4:49:16 AM

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With respect...We come from two different places and are destined never to play together. That is unless you would be prepared to either stop crying or have your nipples burned off by a cigar. This is blog emphasizing our differences not a come on.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 5:00:10 AM

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'With respect' that's exactly what I was doing - pointing out our differences by sharing my different opinion and experiences. I'm not sure how I gave the impression that we were negotiating a scene or that I thought you were coming on to me...?

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 5:56:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

With respect...We come from two different places and are destined never to play together. That is unless you would be prepared to either stop crying or have your nipples burned off by a cigar. This is blog emphasizing our differences not a come on.

No one could mistake it for a come on

,

or

(as you choose).

You prefer stoicism.
[My[ Master prefers authentic reactions.
If I am punished He knows tears will come, NOT from the pain so much, but because I disappointed Him.

However, in our dynamic tears come for many other reasons.
Among them:

1) I cry because I need to cry.
I, too, am someone who does not always cry easily.
And the very first time I cried with Him saying: "Give me those tears, those are My tears." things shifted for me in a big way: both in regards to Him and regarding crying.

2) Orgasms with Him sometimes completely undo me, and I sob.

I think that it is great that you can find women who are willing to play on your terms.
But I can see potential problems in the way you choose to do things.
Burning off a nipple seems to put both you and yours in potential significant risk:
Infection for her, and police action for you.
And when one is beating someone (for any reason) you just never know what emotional landmine you might inadvertently trigger.
However, it is your potential problem and not mine.

As for [my] Master, He has a hard and fast rule about not breaking His toys.

Edit to add:
Regarding the OP:
No, [my] Master does not view tears as a turn on, just a part of life.

edit to ask:

After reading some of your threads, I am wondering how much experience you have with people (specifically submissive women) in real life... actually engaging and interacting with them.
No offense and all due respect, but some of your threads seem to come directly from porn.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 7:11:51 AM

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I don't like crying. I have enough things to cry about in real life, why would it be hot during sex or play?

I have never had a fantastic scene made better by tears.

I cry mostly from emotional pain, so if someone made me cry during a scene, that scene would instantly stop.

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RE: Are you Dacryphiliac? - 2/11/2014 7:53:35 AM

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Tears are usually bad for us.
I mean a couple falling from the pain alone don't bother him, but if I were sobbing, he would know to stop.

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