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Bemyfemslave -> This evil within (2/13/2014 6:27:58 PM)

Is Islam inherently evil?
It seems to be.
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?




Tkman117 -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:14:34 PM)

Wow, just wow dude. The ignorance of your post is astounding. What do you know about islam aside from the fear mongering spouted by the right wing?




DomKen -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:18:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave

Is Islam inherently evil?
It seems to be.
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?

Are all religions inherently evil?
They seem to be.
Should the whole world finally ban all of them & look forward to a peaceful existence?




stef -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:29:20 PM)

Bless your heart.




TheHeretic -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:29:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave

Is Islam inherently evil?
It seems to be.
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?



I wouldn't go nearly so far as to say inherently evil, but any religion that prohibits dogs as pets is a bit fucked up, in my opinion.

Banning it? No. Hell no. Fuck no. Freedom of belief is a fundamental human liberty. What sort of authoritarian piece of shit would think that's a way to peace? Even most liberals aren't that stupid.




Tkman117 -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:41:25 PM)

Many liberals tolerate religion Heretic, others do hate it because of the horrors religions have produced over the years (the actions of the right wing extremists for example). I consider myself in the tolerant side, because despite the many downfalls of religion, it also provides people hope, a sense of community and belonging, and a kind assurance that science admittedly doesn't provide. Sure, any one given religion is unlikely to be true, and they may all be wrong, who knows. But a lot of people are very fearful of the unknown, which is why religion can be a very good thing as it keeps them happy and sane in a lot of cases. Some people just can't handle the reality of our world, it's too big and scary.

But I agree that freedom of and from religion is a fundamental human right, and no one, liberal or conservative, can take that away or should take that away.





jlf1961 -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:44:04 PM)

Oh brother.

Now tell me again that the idea of tolerance is alive and well in the US?




Tkman117 -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:48:20 PM)

Well I'm Canadian so you tell me XD




jlf1961 -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 7:49:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Well I'm Canadian so you tell me XD


I was referring to the op.




JeffBC -> RE: This evil within (2/13/2014 8:00:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?

In what way, exactly, do you think religious oppression is a "peaceful existence". To the best of my admittedly limited historical knowledge such things usually lead to bloodshed.

I'll just pass entirely on the whole freedom gig which you seem to be missing the point of.




Zonie63 -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 4:22:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave

Is Islam inherently evil?
It seems to be.
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?


In this context, to suggest that Islam is inherently evil would carry the implication that the West is inherently good.

I have no illusions about Islam (either in the positive or the negative), but I also don't have any illusions about the West either.

To be sure, the West has had a long-standing rivalry with the Muslim world that goes back more than a thousand years, and the effects and consequences of this rivalry have been felt all over the world. But it's also true that the nations of Christian Europe have had rivalries with each other, and at times, some European nations viewed Muslims as allies against other European nations.

Whatever "evil" threat Islam may pose to the West today, it's largely a threat that we in the West created ourselves (something that we're prone to doing). That's why I might take issue with statements that "Islam is evil," since such statements consistently fail to acknowledge the West's own complicity in nurturing and stoking this supposed "evil" which threatens us. It presents a false perception of the current state of the world and the history which led us to this point.





Moonhead -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 4:36:29 AM)

FR:
How exactly is"the west" going to go about banning the people it buys most of its oil from worshipping whatever and however the hell they they want?
Somebody hasn't thought this through...




Toysinbabeland -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 4:38:00 AM)

People are inherently stupid. That begets an open door for evil.
It doesn't matter what religion you are, evil doesn't discriminate.




jlf1961 -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 5:45:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
How exactly is"the west" going to go about banning the people it buys most of its oil from worshipping whatever and however the hell they they want?
Somebody hasn't thought this through...



It can be done in a relatively few steps.

1) Bomb all Muslim countries back to the stone age.

2) Round up the survivors

3) Resurrect the Spanish Inquisition. (I am sure there are some dental hygienists who will love to come out of the closet and actually torture people openly.)

Or

We stop this Islamaphobic bullshit.




Owner59 -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 6:49:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave

Is Islam inherently evil?
It seems to be.
Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?


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I wouldn't go nearly so far as to say inherently evil, but any religion that prohibits dogs as pets is a bit fucked up, in my opinion.

Banning it? No. Hell no. Fuck no. Freedom of belief is a fundamental human liberty. What sort of authoritarian piece of shit would think that's a way to peace? Even most liberals aren't that stupid.



Just look, Bemy, at how normal folks feel about America`s jerk-offs pushing their religion on them.....They are very un-popular.....But like most jerk-offs....they just keep coming....


The main difference between radical Islam and our christo-fascists.....and their various supporters.....is the body count....


Our Christo-fascist haven`t killed quite as many people .......recently at least......as their Muslim counter-parts.....but there`s not much else that differentiates them




joether -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 12:25:35 PM)

Holy Shit guys....STOP FUCKING FEEDING THE TROLLL!!!!!!

The OP has '1' post. And this is their one post. I'm frankly surprised the Mods allow this thread to exist in the first place. Its so blatantly intolerant to begin with!





Moonhead -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 12:56:53 PM)

The OP presumably isn't on VAA's naughty list yet.
At least not in this persona...




Lucylastic -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 2:20:41 PM)

did anyone report it?
I see he dumped his shit n ran
sounds like a sock




thezeppo -> RE: This evil within (2/14/2014 3:00:48 PM)

Islam is the new orient, the boogeyman through which we place ourselves on a pedastal. If the op is not a troll or a sock, they could do worse than take a look at the life of Saladin (another up to the minute reference from the history student)




thishereboi -> RE: This evil within (2/15/2014 6:36:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bemyfemslave

Is Islam inherently evil?

no

It seems to be.

There are professionals that you can go and talk to who will help you with this.

Should the west finally ban it & look forward to a peaceful existence?

Make this the opening question in your first session and that will give them a jumping off point.







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