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LadyPact -> RE: Watching guys (3/3/2014 10:31:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: altialt
Well I am not making a comparison with this forum being like the streets. I am learning right now, and I to have to stand of for what I put in this forum and that is what I am doing. Wether I am going for the sexual act or the relation, which is not stated anywhere. You seem offended? Is it not okay to pursuit the sexual act itself? - not saying that this is what I am doing, but granting that it might come of as such..

You have to ask yourself why you're not comparing women here to flesh and blood women that you see in person. Do you think a woman would be offended if you walked up to her and asked this question? Would you find it appropriate if a man your mother didn't know walked up to her and asked her this question?

If you were not thinking that cam acts will lead to a relationship, what was up with this part?

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ORIGINAL: altialt
I believe making the transition into real life femdom relationship can be cultivated through cam play. Do you agreed?

No. None of the women agreed with that and neither did the men who contributed to the thread.

You're more than free to pursue what you want. I do. What you are running up against is that there isn't a value in this from what happens on the woman's side.

Case in point. I told you earlier in the thread that I was one of the women who are interested in such activities only when there is an emotional attachment involved. Had you asked the same question six months ago, I'd have flat out said no. Not because I wasn't acquainted with the same exact person. It's because there is a different level of attachment and attraction. The reason I'm interested in doing such things with him rather than the other 3.5 billion people on the planet with a penis is because he brings value to Me in other ways.

There's a lot of studies and research out there that confirm many women are not sexually interested when only presented with visual stimuli. That doesn't change because women are on a kink site. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have to tell you this if you were dealing with non kinky women because you wouldn't use a sex based approach since you'd know that most women aren't interested in your genitals or your orifices. Why would you think kinky women would be?

I'm not offended. If you are "just learning," I'd probably say you are rather uneducated about women in general and how our sexual drives work.






LadyConstanze -> RE: Watching guys (3/3/2014 10:32:10 AM)

Look, somebody giving you the plain truth without sugar coating it isn't hostile at all, it's being honest and again, you ask a question you do deserve an honest answer, if I can't give you one, I rather not answer.

As for changing the subject, a moderator told you to make a new post, might be an idea to do so, or else you might get a golden letter, and then you would claim that even the mods are hostile...




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Watching guys (3/3/2014 10:35:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: altialt

An in-context analysis it is not. I got the message from the replies the first time that is why, I change the subject matter. I tried very hard not to make this about my fetish. And side-swiping the answers takes a lot of time:)

I think I have learned something here, but I still think that many replies seems hostile, including yours, or are you not a bit annoyed at me?. Hostile might not be the right word, I am just trying describe a feeling of being on the defensive...

Being on the defensive when people are telling you your kink is not desirable, is quite natural.
But equally well, you being a little defensive does not mean the answers you received were hostile either.
That, I'm afraid, is your own take on it.

If you think it was hostile, you can either re-adjust your thinking, or take it as the good intentions that the advice was given.
That is something for you to decide.




FieryOpal -> RE: Watching guys (3/3/2014 5:13:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: altialt

[a.] Okay I have suspected for some time that dom woman never really enjoy waching guys do analplay - exposing themselves in that manner on cam. [b.] But some woman agree to do so anyway... [c.] Is this to please the sub, or [d.] do dom woman get anything out of watching a guy fuck himself in the ass? [e.] Just pure basic lust?
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Let's start from the beginning and break this down. Nobody is condemning your kink or trying to make you feel that it's wrong in and of itself. There's nothing wrong with having to scratch your balls, for example, but would you expect women to get turned on by watching this act either, whether they were kinky or not, esp. seeing some strange man do it?

I should also mention that given you are listed as having joined back in 2006, why would any of us assume this was new to you or treat you like a newbie?

(a) You say you already suspected that Dommes don't enjoy watching guys engaging in anal play, exposing themselves on cam. We affirmed your suspicion. One exception, a Domme who might be willing to watch a man with model good-looks, as a package deal. Not just to see what he did with his ass, but to perhaps lust over his physique, fantasize about all the other things she'd like to do to him and with him.... I personally wouldn't care to see anything along these lines on cam. If it's not up close and personal with me as an active participant with my partner, I have zero interest.

(b) As has already been pointed out, some of these "women" may actually be men. Assuming it is in fact a woman, chances are she's not going to agree to watch you for free, and she'll be pretending to share your kink while she's filing her nails and suppressing her yawns.

(c) I'll avoid generalizing here. I never had much if any interest in ass play. My ex-husband was the one who wanted me go further than a well-lubed finger up his ass or circling a vibrator around his anus. We usually incorporated this along with an OTK spanking at my insistence. In my particular case, I did things I thought he would enjoy, and if it hadn't pleased him or if he didn't enjoy it, there were plenty of other non-ass-related things to do. So yes, this was done to please my sub-husband, and it never occurred to me to WANT to see him auto-penetrate, not even with a butt plug, meaning I didn't make him do it to himself. What would be the fun in that?

(d) You've gotten a number of responses from Dommes indicating we don't get anything out of watching this, particularly with some random dude on the Internet.

(e) Whether this has to do with "Just pure basic lust?" on the part of male subs, this is a rhetorical question, unless you want opinions on how "pure" or "basic" and/or "lustful" a kink we think it is, outside the scope of your original queries. I see nothing wrong with it intrinsically in the context of an intimate relationship for other males to want to do, but not with my own sub performing self-penetration. I'd sooner watch him masturbate.

You asked, didn't like what you heard, tried to spin this into a cam-into-relationship scenario, which is total b.s. Unless my partner in a pre-established relationship happened to be on tour of duty where we were going to be separated for a length of time (where I'm sure he couldn't get away with such an exhibition undetected), I would have no reason to be camming with him in the first place. I wouldn't be exposing myself to him either on camera. Domme or not, a good many of us women are just not into voyeurism/exhibitionism, despite how much you want it to become your personal reality.

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