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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 10:42:52 AM   
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I have already started heirloom tomatoes indoors. Seeds are just beginning to sprout. Soon also to be planting carrots, radishes, cucumbers. I grow herbs (parsley, chives, thyme, basil, cilantro, stevia)year round in indoor pots and use to cook regularly. The flowers are own by my Lady. I am not allowed to touch those LOL. German's are picky about their flower gardens!

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 11:46:15 AM   
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My backyard has almost no sunlight, and my neighbors would flip if I planted a vegetable garden in my front yard., especially considering my neighbor across the steet has their house for sale

I already have the wire fencing so I was seriously considering making the 'flower tower' but using it for herbs and vegetables. Has anyone had any success with this? Any ideas which plants grow best in a tiered vertical structure? Tips?

I'm going to research if there are any vegetable, herb or fruits that do ok in shade but if anyone has tips on that it would be greatly appreciated.

ETA: I'd really like to be able to grow all of the fruits and vegetables I want to use for juicing this year. I will have to see how practical that is but it is my goal.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 12:35:12 PM   
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Depending on you plants both beer traps and caffee mulch should help with slugs. cut the tops off water or pop bottles and burry until only about a cm is above ground, fill 1/4 - 1/3 with cheap beer. The slugs and a few other harmful insects will be attracted to the beer and drown in a drunken stupor.
Spread used coffee grounds over the soil or even a fine sand. the sharp grinds of coffee or shards of sand will tear the slugs soft underside and probably kill it if it has to cross enough.
or circle you beds with copper wire (about 1/2 inch diameter), slugs hate copper wire, they have enough liquid and static in their bodies that when they cross the wire they get a shock. No battery needed because they are their own battery.

Use all, some or one and there'll be a reductio in slugs but those crafty things always find a way to get some through.


Thanks for that advice FluidFlame. I had read about the beer thing, but digging the trap up again .

I will try the sand or coffee grounds first, as that sounds fairly simple with the few plants that I presently have.

I just read something about boiling bulbs of garlic and spraying that on the tops and undersides of plants - it is a good thing that I like the smell of it!

If I ever start with pot plants, I will remember the copper.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 12:41:07 PM   
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My backyard has almost no sunlight, and my neighbors would flip if I planted a vegetable garden in my front yard., especially considering my neighbor across the steet has their house for sale


Before you decide not to try to grow veggies in your front yard, you might want to research the homesteading ordinances for your city and the declarations for your HOA. As long as you stay within the rules of both of those, your neighbors shouldn't have much cause for complaint.

For example, my city ordinances state that I can't grow any row crops (defined as crops grown in rows that reach more than 24 inches in height) in my front yard, but what I grow in my back yard is up to me. My HOA says no shrubs over three feet in front and nothing more than six feet in back. That leaves a lot of leeway for things like potatoes, carrots, lettuce, zucchini and other squash, herbs, and more. You can also grow almost anything in a container, if you get one large enough, at which point the city and HOA seem to consider it a "house plant" and it doesn't have to follow the same rules. My gardening catalogs sell a lot of dwarf plants, from banana trees to blueberry bushes, which can be grown in containers. With a little digging (see what I did there!) you might be able to find a way to have a garden in your front yard.


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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 1:02:52 PM   
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Thank you for the welcome ChatteParfaitt.

Apples can be grown as edging for paths it`s known as step over and extremely dwarfing rootstock is used, string wires about a foot above the ground and you train it as a single tier espalier, a good talking point when you have visiters.
As for me it will have to be rice plants if we get much more rain

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 1:13:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

My backyard has almost no sunlight, and my neighbors would flip if I planted a vegetable garden in my front yard., especially considering my neighbor across the steet has their house for sale

I already have the wire fencing so I was seriously considering making the 'flower tower' but using it for herbs and vegetables. Has anyone had any success with this? Any ideas which plants grow best in a tiered vertical structure? Tips?

I'm going to research if there are any vegetable, herb or fruits that do ok in shade but if anyone has tips on that it would be greatly appreciated.

ETA: I'd really like to be able to grow all of the fruits and vegetables I want to use for juicing this year. I will have to see how practical that is but it is my goal.

There are lots of vegetables that are also attractive plants in their own right. Squash have very pretty flowers as do peas. Basil is, IMO at least, very decorative. Chives too.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 1:14:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

My backyard has almost no sunlight, and my neighbors would flip if I planted a vegetable garden in my front yard., especially considering my neighbor across the steet has their house for sale


Before you decide not to try to grow veggies in your front yard, you might want to research the homesteading ordinances for your city and the declarations for your HOA. As long as you stay within the rules of both of those, your neighbors shouldn't have much cause for complaint.

For example, my city ordinances state that I can't grow any row crops (defined as crops grown in rows that reach more than 24 inches in height) in my front yard, but what I grow in my back yard is up to me. My HOA says no shrubs over three feet in front and nothing more than six feet in back. That leaves a lot of leeway for things like potatoes, carrots, lettuce, zucchini and other squash, herbs, and more. You can also grow almost anything in a container, if you get one large enough, at which point the city and HOA seem to consider it a "house plant" and it doesn't have to follow the same rules. My gardening catalogs sell a lot of dwarf plants, from banana trees to blueberry bushes, which can be grown in containers. With a little digging (see what I did there!) you might be able to find a way to have a garden in your front yard.


A friend has grown tomatoes in containers for years. They don't get as big as she'd like but it is better than nothing.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 1:23:28 PM   
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Rhubarb leaves can be boiled up to make a natural pesticide but I am not sure if it is safe to use it on anything you are going to eat as the leaves contain oxalic acid

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 1:28:01 PM   
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Rhubarb leaves can be boiled up to make a natural pesticide but I am not sure if it is safe to use it on anything you are going to eat as the leaves contain oxalic acid


Or you can use insects that eat other insects to keep the pests away. There is a local jr high kid that is raising money for his college fund by raising praying mantises and selling them to gardeners. I tired it last year with some success so I am going to double my purchase this year.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/24/2014 6:53:19 PM   
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I am switching from my flowers to vegetables this year. I am ordering some herbs, some squash, green beans and tomatoes (Burpee has this giant tomato that I want to try out). I have no idea what my brother is doing (except watermelons and onions). After August, I will build me a greenhouse so I can raise different lettuces for my diet during the fall and winter (maybe it won't get so cold this next year).

Now...to get a cattle panel and a couple of t-post so the green beans can be pole beans...


How do you deal with all the weeds that come in to play?

I've planted (everything....well....I didn't actually do shit personally) in the last few years....I have sprinklers that come on timed....2 acres, guys that come in and there's weeds everywhere....all over my shit.

Is there a secret to all this?

(I have potatoes that grow no matter what but....what's the secret to making food?)

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 4:06:52 AM   
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Sorry, you have to bend over and pull out the weeds. I am going to get a kneeling bench to use myself...be able to push myself up when done in one spot.

You can also use a mulch or a weed sheet, allowing the vegetables to grow. You just have to know the difference between weeds and the veggies.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:03:26 AM   
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Yes, the secret to NO WEEDS is putting dannydoo (or any good, helpful subby) to work pulling them out

It also helps to AGE your manure in a big pile so it can ferment, generate enough heat to cook out the weed seeds. Also, get a handle on your lawn mowing/trimming to make sure weeds/grass on your lawn don't invade the garden. Again, a good, helpful subby to the rescue!

...and NO, I won't lend him out.

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How do you deal with all the weeds that come in to play?

I've planted (everything....well....I didn't actually do shit personally) in the last few years....I have sprinklers that come on timed....2 acres, guys that come in and there's weeds everywhere....all over my shit.

Is there a secret to all this?

(I have potatoes that grow no matter what but....what's the secret to making food?)

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:07:49 AM   
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You have to actually weed your garden. When plants are small, say 2-3" you should thin them out and pull up any weeds. Do that again when they are about 6-8" high, but this time put down some mulch to cover any ground area around the plants so weeds have a harder time growing. You will have less weeds and they will be easier to identify.

Please don't use weed killers, they will kill your plants.

I imagine you would have a *very* hard time finding someone to do this for you, unless you luck upon a high school kid looking to make money who is trainable.





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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:09:26 AM   
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Yes, the secret to NO WEEDS is putting dannydoo (or any good, helpful subby) to work pulling them out

It also helps to AGE your manure in a big pile so it can ferment, generate enough heat to cook out the weed seeds. Also, get a handle on your lawn mowing/trimming to make sure weeds/grass on your lawn don't invade the garden. Again, a good, helpful subby to the rescue!




Manure should be composted. Here's a great guide for those new to composting:

http://eartheasy.com/grow_compost.html


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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:27:01 AM   
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I will definitely be gardening. We bought a new place a few years ago, and its been a blast landscaping, well mainly a blast, its a lot of hard work too. The secret is landscaping fabric and we laid rocks too. My husband built me wooden boxes inside the rocks so weeding is pretty easy around the pool. There are areas of the yard though that require a lot more weeding, so I want to be working on that with mulching and trimming. I am more of a flowering plant lover, roses, hydrangeas, knock out roses are awesome and easy. I think I have 40 to 50 different variety of flowering plants and trees right now. But I love herbs too, and have a friend who practices hebal remedies like the movie Pracitcal magic, talk about a passion for herbs and natural earthy medication, its very interesting. RIght now Im taking ginkgo and black cohash for menopausal symptoms and it is definitely working. This year Id like to put out a lil area of basic cooking herbs.
My friend makes gorgeous recipes with beautiful things like edible violets, and lavender breads, peach jelly laced with herbs too. Id love to get into that more, but gardening is a big passion for me. Beautiful blooms make me feel good.

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:44:11 AM   
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Planting marigolds and lavender is a great way to help keep the nasty bugs away, and bring the good bugs in. Plus. The yellow and purple look fab together.
I'm doing tomatoes, peppers, eggplant,green beans and lettuce.
Jersey dirt DOES grow the best 'maters!!

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:52:49 AM   
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Alright, I have seen people talk about what to plant to keep bad bugs away. (already knew that but thanks for the reminder)

Now I have a question for all you green thumb aficionados.

What the hell do you plant to attract nice looking ginger haired single Irish girls between the ages of 25 and 45 all the way from Ireland?

Betcha cant answer that one!

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:54:09 AM   
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Planting marigolds and lavender is a great way to help keep the nasty bugs away, and bring the good bugs in. Plus. The yellow and purple look fab together.
I'm doing tomatoes, peppers, eggplant,green beans and lettuce.
Jersey dirt DOES grow the best 'maters!!

definitely true, plant some marigolds a plant here and there in your vegie garden, not only does it look pretty it really does keep some pesty bugs away. I never tried the lavender, but purple and yellow together are gorgeous for sure!

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:56:31 AM   
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Alright, I have seen people talk about what to plant to keep bad bugs away. (already knew that but thanks for the reminder)

Now I have a question for all you green thumb aficionados.

What the hell do you plant to attract nice looking ginger haired single Irish girls between the ages of 25 and 45 all the way from Ireland?

Betcha cant answer that one!

Um....a pot 'o gold?????

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RE: Who's gardening this year? - 2/25/2014 5:59:43 AM   
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Jeff just wish I was skinny and had long hair...he might accept my age.

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