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****** Now, Nugent is a bit player, a bomb-thrower not worthy of much attention in his own right, but the fact that he and so many like him feel at home within the Republican Party and aligned with conservative causes is.

Who would someone like Nugent align himself with if not the Republicans? If he's going to pick a side, it can't be the Democrats and that doesn't leave a lot of options.


What surprises me is how the Republicans acquiesce to their resident wingnuts. It's not like the Pat Robertson types have other parties to pick either.

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****** Now, Nugent is a bit player, a bomb-thrower not worthy of much attention in his own right, but the fact that he and so many like him feel at home within the Republican Party and aligned with conservative causes is.

Who would someone like Nugent align himself with if not the Republicans? If he's going to pick a side, it can't be the Democrats and that doesn't leave a lot of options.


What surprises me is how the Republicans acquiesce to their resident wingnuts. It's not like the Pat Robertson types have other parties to pick either.

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Plus....old white guys like yachtie are dying out while the gop isn`t attracting as many replacements......

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This may well come as a complete fucking shock to you... so brace yourself.

Not all republicans are crazy extremists.

I am constantly astonished when I travel in the USA by my regular discovery of Republican voters that care for the environment, believe that climate change is real, support a woman's right to control her body and.... shudder... even favour tougher gun control.

If you're a liberal, you would profit far more from engagement with "regular" or "middle of the road" republicans... because I have a sense that quite a few of them frel as if their own party is spinning way out to the right.

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Lol, dude I'm not advocating for one side over the other. Cloud boy made the major point that should be addressed. Which is that there is no party that advocates extremism the way the right wing republicans/tea party does. I mean, you hardly see that with the liberal parties around the world, more often than not they outright condemn such actions as they're not liberal in nature. They don't represent what it means to be liberals. I could likely say the same with moderate conservatives, which has enough grey area that I at times may be inclined to agree with moderate conservative policies, but not the extreme ones. I completely disagree with extremism of any kind, it's sickening and juvenile. If you want to solves problems in this world, do it the right way within the law. Not by attacking people or laying booby traps.

I never really thought that I would actually see someone maintain the "violence never solves anything" outside of a classroom.

From Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois (Ret.):

"I'm sure the city fathers of Carthage would be glad to know that. . . .

Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history that has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."

Quoting Heinlein?

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Lol, dude I'm not advocating for one side over the other. Cloud boy made the major point that should be addressed. Which is that there is no party that advocates extremism the way the right wing republicans/tea party does. I mean, you hardly see that with the liberal parties around the world, more often than not they outright condemn such actions as they're not liberal in nature. They don't represent what it means to be liberals. I could likely say the same with moderate conservatives, which has enough grey area that I at times may be inclined to agree with moderate conservative policies, but not the extreme ones. I completely disagree with extremism of any kind, it's sickening and juvenile. If you want to solves problems in this world, do it the right way within the law. Not by attacking people or laying booby traps.

I never really thought that I would actually see someone maintain the "violence never solves anything" outside of a classroom.

From Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois (Ret.):

"I'm sure the city fathers of Carthage would be glad to know that. . . .

Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history that has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."

Quoting Heinlein?