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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/25/2014 9:20:33 AM   
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The biggest nut cases in the USA find their home in the Republican Party. The ignorant (Obama is a Muslim), bigoted (anti-gay or racist) and strident "hate the federal government" types. Gun nuts (paranoid) and religious fundamentalists (threatened by secular beliefs) round out the intolerant extremists.



Back that truck up. The left has no extremists, no nut cases? Really?



Name them.......

We don`t operate on a false sense of equivalence.

Better make it good.......better than your ability to find something funny Dennis Miller did.....







How about the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson, confirmed December 16. The American Civil Liberties Union has voiced concern about his human rights record. To the shock of civil rights advocates, Johnson ADVOCATED TARGETING US CITIZENS in drone strikes. "Belligerents who also happen to be US citizens do not enjoy immunity where non-citizen belligerents are valid military objectives," he said in a speech at Yale Law
School.
during a discussion at the 2013 Aspen Security Forum, Johnsonn said, Americans who make phone calls, have "NO LEGITIMATE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY." Their meta-data (including phone numbers, call duration and sometimes even GPS locations) belong to the Government!

You don't think this guy is a radical?

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/25/2014 9:27:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		So what precisely should we do if a terrorist is also a US citizen? I want an answer from one of these righties who has suddenly become concerned with human rights.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/25/2014 9:50:33 AM   
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So what precisely should we do if a terrorist is also a US citizen? I want an answer from one of these righties who has suddenly become concerned with human rights.


I think we should take him out, but I am not an appointed government official. I , and probably you, sometimes diss-agree with our political party, but somebody or institution should follow the Constitution. How do you feel about his opinionn of your phone calls?

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/25/2014 10:16:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		well constitutionally, he is ok on the first, and according to scotus, he is in pretty good shape on the second constitutionally.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/25/2014 2:27:35 PM   
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So what precisely should we do if a terrorist is also a US citizen? I want an answer from one of these righties who has suddenly become concerned with human rights.


I think we should take him out,

Hypocrisy. At least you admit to it.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/26/2014 11:34:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the answer to the question of Charles Blow is rather straightforward -- Most Republican's don't care and also they're willing to win BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY right now.

That means Gerrymandering, VOTER ID Laws, and a gutting of campaign finance laws and intransigence on all other major policy initiatives.

Even centrist Republicans like George Will have been marginalized by the fringe right and Ted Nugent - minded Tea Party. After being drubbed for the Presidency in 2016 there might be some changes -- but probably not until then.

< Message edited by cloudboy -- 2/26/2014 11:38:35 AM >

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/26/2014 5:51:34 PM   
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The biggest nut cases in the USA find their home in the Republican Party. The ignorant (Obama is a Muslim), bigoted (anti-gay or racist) and strident "hate the federal government" types. Gun nuts (paranoid) and religious fundamentalists (threatened by secular beliefs) round out the intolerant extremists.

The question is, when will the republicans stop accommodating bigotry and extremism?

****** Now, Nugent is a bit player, a bomb-thrower not worthy of much attention in his own right, but the fact that he and so many like him feel at home within the Republican Party and aligned with conservative causes is.

By no means are all, or even most, Republicans this extreme, nor do they condone this level of extremism. But far too many extremists seem to seek — and find — a home within the Republican ranks. There exists a foul odor of accommodation. ****


**** But there are two important differences here. First, the Democratic Party is not suffering a diversity crisis; the Republican Party is.

Second, the impression beginning to take hold is that the Republican Party is a home for the hateful, not necessarily because the party invites them, but because it doesn’t forcefully enough reject them.

How does this sit with minority members in the party’s ranks and those it hopes to attract? How can they be expected to find a home among such hostility? And why aren’t more party leaders willing to take a stand and stamp out the bigotry? *****

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/22/opinion/blow-accommodating-divisiveness.html?ref=charlesmblow&_r=0




Wow.

That was funny.

You should do comedy club circuits.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/27/2014 11:34:17 AM   
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well constitutionally, he is ok on the first, and according to scotus, he is in pretty good shape on the second constitutionally.


I must have missed the part where the government can kill citizens without a trial. And the part of having no expectation of privacy when calling a private residence from my private residence.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/27/2014 11:42:45 AM   
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So what precisely should we do if a terrorist is also a US citizen? I want an answer from one of these righties who has suddenly become concerned with human rights.


I think we should take him out,



Hypocrisy. At least you admit to it.


No hypocracy, my opinion, and what is constitutionally correct might
not agree. Ain't America great!

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/27/2014 12:14:05 PM   
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So what precisely should we do if a terrorist is also a US citizen? I want an answer from one of these righties who has suddenly become concerned with human rights.


I think we should take him out,



Hypocrisy. At least you admit to it.


No hypocracy, my opinion, and what is constitutionally correct might
not agree. Ain't America great!


It's ok to be a hypocrite. It just establishes that your attacks are simply attacks for the sake of being attacks and can be ignored.

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/27/2014 4:12:48 PM   
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Whatever one's prognosis about the future and the impact of demographics, NYT polling results show Republicans making gains during the mid term elections.

There was a funny piece by Gail Collins about how AZ's campaign finance laws funded grass roots, nut job Republicans --- thereby turning the Party emphasis in that state to bashing gays, limiting abortion, and locking up illegal aliens ---

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/28/2014 5:29:33 AM   
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well constitutionally, he is ok on the first, and according to scotus, he is in pretty good shape on the second constitutionally.


I must have missed the part where the government can kill citizens without a trial. And the part of having no expectation of privacy when calling a private residence from my private residence.


Yeah, you miss a great deal.  

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RE: Republicans on Wrong Side of Demographics - 2/28/2014 6:50:09 PM   
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Whatever one's prognosis about the future and the impact of demographics, NYT polling results show Republicans making gains during the mid term elections.

There was a funny piece by Gail Collins about how AZ's campaign finance laws funded grass roots, nut job Republicans --- thereby turning the Party emphasis in that state to bashing gays, limiting abortion, and locking up illegal aliens ---


Don't assume that Republicans represent the Republic any better than Democrats do, more importantly....other Republicans.

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