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Lucylastic -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/9/2014 10:27:53 AM)

Nah, I made that mistake once... I changed the tshirt, when I realised why I was getting nasty looks.....im really not that petty to wish harm on anyone I just "disagree" with.

The Union Flag is the flag for the UK, we call it the Union Jack, altho its only meant to be the "union jack" on a ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom

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BamaD -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/9/2014 10:35:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I know you would love for me too LMAO. BUt I don't have a death wish. I just edited this, because honestly I didn't know what Union Jack meant. I have some English and Scottish blood in me, I love Brits. I would wear the Tshirt, but not to intentionally cause strife.
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

try wearing a "Union Jack" on independence day in bum fuck virginia...



This complaint would be like an American complaining about a Union Jack
being worn in England on the fourth of July



vincentML -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/9/2014 6:27:54 PM)

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There is nothing wrong at all with having pride in ones heritage, or beliefs, and showing it in the right context, but when people do it to purposely start strife, then that's a problem. Whether its using the American flag, or confederate flag, or any flag, or tshirt or whatever. The reason someone wears something or shows it might have a totally different positive meaning for them, if it is negativity you look for or see, then who has the problem? Its good to look at the person and their intent.

Yep. We agree. We all have pride of place and ancestry that identifies us. If you return to the OP you will note this thread is about a court case that evolved when 'American' students wore shirts to taunt and object to a school sponsored day of pride for Mexican Americans. IMO, the nativists were wrong. The Court sided with the school administrators.



BamaD -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/9/2014 8:54:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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There is nothing wrong at all with having pride in ones heritage, or beliefs, and showing it in the right context, but when people do it to purposely start strife, then that's a problem. Whether its using the American flag, or confederate flag, or any flag, or tshirt or whatever. The reason someone wears something or shows it might have a totally different positive meaning for them, if it is negativity you look for or see, then who has the problem? Its good to look at the person and their intent.

Yep. We agree. We all have pride of place and ancestry that identifies us. If you return to the OP you will note this thread is about a court case that evolved when 'American' students wore shirts to taunt and object to a school sponsored day of pride for Mexican Americans. IMO, the nativists were wrong. The Court sided with the school administrators.

No, that Hispanics objected to U S flags.



Kirata -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 4:24:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

If you return to the OP you will note this thread is about a court case that evolved when 'American' students wore shirts to taunt and object to a school sponsored day of pride for Mexican Americans.

And if you return to the OP you will note that it doesn't say anything of the fucking kind.

"I can't fault the (9th Circuit) for this," said Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law professor. "But, boy, this is a pretty sad commentary. Here we have a school saying it's too dangerous for students to wear an American flag to an American school." ~Source

I'll second that.

K.



chatterbox24 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 4:50:43 AM)

THank you.
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

There is nothing wrong at all with having pride in ones heritage, or beliefs, and showing it in the right context, but when people do it to purposely start strife, then that's a problem. Whether its using the American flag, or confederate flag, or any flag, or tshirt or whatever. The reason someone wears something or shows it might have a totally different positive meaning for them, if it is negativity you look for or see, then who has the problem? Its good to look at the person and their intent.

Yep. We agree. We all have pride of place and ancestry that identifies us. If you return to the OP you will note this thread is about a court case that evolved when 'American' students wore shirts to taunt and object to a school sponsored day of pride for Mexican Americans. IMO, the nativists were wrong. The Court sided with the school administrators.

No, that Hispanics objected to U S flags.




vincentML -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 8:38:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

If you return to the OP you will note this thread is about a court case that evolved when 'American' students wore shirts to taunt and object to a school sponsored day of pride for Mexican Americans.

And if you return to the OP you will note that it doesn't say anything of the fucking kind.

"I can't fault the (9th Circuit) for this," said Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law professor. "But, boy, this is a pretty sad commentary. Here we have a school saying it's too dangerous for students to wear an American flag to an American school." ~Source

I'll second that.

K.

If you read the news account I posted in #31 you will find that the confrontations occurred the year before, that the Cinco de Mayo event was sponsored by the school for its predominantly Mexican American students, and that the nativist student minority had protested by chanting "USA, USA." Taunting, without doubt. The action by the school was taken to head off trouble in the following year. Try to keep up with the story.

And under the circumstance Eugene Volokh is full of crap. But no surprise given his already biased views:

He advocates campus speech rights and religious freedom, and opposes racial preferences, having worked as a legal advisor to California's Proposition 209 campaign. He is a critic of what he sees as the overly broad operation of American workplace harassment laws, including those relating to sexual harassment.

It is well established Constitutional case law that school authorities have a duty to maintain a well ordered learning environment that supersedes students' free speech.



MercTech -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 10:04:51 AM)

Flag code...

I remember having to learn the flag code and proper ceremony for burning a worn out flag for a merit badge in the Boy Scouts of America. This thread has me looking it up again to refresh my memory.

A lapel pin is considered a "replica" of the flag and considered appropriate for apparel. Flag patches on uniforms are allowed by the flag code. In the 1960s precedent was set that a "replica" of a U.S. flag printed on a shirt was not in violation of the flag code.

Although there are no criminal penalties in statute for violating the flag code; violation of the flag code were included in indictments of Vietnam war protesters, probably with the intent of eliciting a higher likelihood of conviction and harsher sentencing. I remember having to learn the flag code and proper ceremony for burning a worn out flag for a merit badge in the Boy Scouts of America.

Things that were considered a violation of the flag code:
Wearing a flag draped about the shoulders as a garment.
Throwing a flag on the ground and stomping on it while changing, "Hell no, we won't go"
Displaying the flag and pelting it with garbage.



Kirata -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 10:20:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

And under the circumstance Eugene Volokh is full of crap. But no surprise given his already biased views:

He advocates campus speech rights and religious freedom, and opposes racial preferences, having worked as a legal advisor to California's Proposition 209 campaign. He is a critic of what he sees as the overly broad operation of American workplace harassment laws, including those relating to sexual harassment.

He advocates campus speech rights and religious freedom? And opposes racial preferences too? I've heard enough. Let's hang the bastard.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

It is well established Constitutional case law that school authorities have a duty to maintain a well ordered learning environment that supersedes students' free speech.

That is very true. But it is not well established Constitutional case law that people who turn violent when they perceive themselves "taunted" should be rewarded by restricting everybody else's Free Speech rights. How do you feel about cartoons? Blasphemy laws?

In my opinion, they should have cancelled the celebration until the little princes they call students learn to grow the fuck up.

K.



chatterbox24 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 11:13:05 AM)

I have heard enough too, maybe we should crucify him for all this nonsense of Justice for people. THat is just terrible.[8|] Man oh man oh man, you all wear me out.[:D] Time to take my meds.[:D]
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

And under the circumstance Eugene Volokh is full of crap. But no surprise given his already biased views:

He advocates campus speech rights and religious freedom, and opposes racial preferences, having worked as a legal advisor to California's Proposition 209 campaign. He is a critic of what he sees as the overly broad operation of American workplace harassment laws, including those relating to sexual harassment.

He advocates campus speech rights and religious freedom? And opposes racial preferences too? I've heard enough. Let's hang the bastard.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

It is well established Constitutional case law that school authorities have a duty to maintain a well ordered learning environment that supersedes students' free speech.

That is very true. But it is not well established Constitutional case law that people who turn violent when they perceive themselves "taunted" should be rewarded by restricting everybody else's Free Speech rights. How do you feel about cartoons? Blasphemy laws?

In my opinion, they should have cancelled the celebration until the little princes they call students learn to grow the fuck up.

K.





jlf1961 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 11:26:06 AM)

As I said, Cinco De Mayo isn't celebrated nationwide in Mexico. Just one little town.

It is celebrated in just about every town with a Mexican American population in the US. Like Mardi Gras and St Patrick's Day, it is a use to get shit faced drunk and party like no one gives a shit.

Then along comes a school in overly politically correct California that decides to have a celebration during the class day.

Everyone knows how egotistical the average Texan is about Texas Independence, but you dont see schools setting up a celebration for Texan Independence Day, and it aint because they are afraid of pissing someone off or hurting someone's feelings. It is because school is for two things, football and academics.

And in no story did I see that these students wore shirts with the American flag on them to cause trouble.

I agree with K, these students need to grow the fuck up, and the Administrator that told the boys to turn the shirts inside out or go home should have his ass handed to him and sent packing.

As for the Judge, he needs off the bench, or put in pet court in Amador City CA.



BamaD -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 12:19:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

As I said, Cinco De Mayo isn't celebrated nationwide in Mexico. Just one little town.

It is celebrated in just about every town with a Mexican American population in the US. Like Mardi Gras and St Patrick's Day, it is a use to get shit faced drunk and party like no one gives a shit.

Then along comes a school in overly politically correct California that decides to have a celebration during the class day.

Everyone knows how egotistical the average Texan is about Texas Independence, but you dont see schools setting up a celebration for Texan Independence Day, and it aint because they are afraid of pissing someone off or hurting someone's feelings. It is because school is for two things, football and academics.

And in no story did I see that these students wore shirts with the American flag on them to cause trouble.

I agree with K, these students need to grow the fuck up, and the Administrator that told the boys to turn the shirts inside out or go home should have his ass handed to him and sent packing.

As for the Judge, he needs off the bench, or put in pet court in Amador City CA.

It was because some Hispanics might be offended and get violent over an American flag.



jlf1961 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 12:44:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


It was because some Hispanics might be offended and get violent over an American flag.


You know, I am sick of all this "politically Correct" bullshit. If Hispanics are offended by the American Flag, then they need to get the fuck out of the country.




BamaD -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 12:46:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


It was because some Hispanics might be offended and get violent over an American flag.


You know, I am sick of all this "politically Correct" bullshit. If Hispanics are offended by the American Flag, then they need to get the fuck out of the country.



Yes



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:05:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
You know, I am sick of all this "politically Correct" bullshit. If Hispanics are offended by the American Flag, then they need to get the fuck out of the country.

110% agree with that!

I have the same argument with the Islamics over here that want to live like they did in their own country.
Some even want to introduce Sharia laws here.

WTF??
Why did they come here in the first place then? [8|]
IF they don't like it, they can fuck off!!!

I'm also sick to death of this "multi-culturism" bollocks.



mnottertail -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:06:18 PM)

Except that it was the spanics country long before the dildos arrived.



Lucylastic -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:09:46 PM)

amazing how"violent" americans can get over their "flag" being trashed, disrespected, ...but god help anyone else and "their" flag who dares to whinge



chatterbox24 -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:19:11 PM)

hey now I will have you to know I operate quite well without batteries. I think they should have made them swap shirts that ought to teach em.
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Except that it was the spanics country long before the dildos arrived.





mnottertail -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:24:37 PM)

How many children in America went to bed hungry last night, if they have a bed, and you guys are fuckin howling about shirts?




BamaD -> RE: First it was press one for english, now.... (3/10/2014 1:35:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

hey now I will have you to know I operate quite well without batteries. I think they should have made them swap shirts that ought to teach em.
quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Except that it was the spanics country long before the dildos arrived.




We have had it for almost 180 years. That is 30 years less than Mexico existed, get over it.



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