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LadyPact -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 10:14:57 AM)

Fast reply.

Any woman getting on the internet for sex makes about as much sense as driving twenty miles for a bottle of water rather than walking into the kitchen and turning on the tap. While males are always in the pursuit of sex, women, on the other hand, are constantly turning it down. Any woman with half a brain knows this and it's why women mention quality partners, rather than any partner.




shiftyw -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 3:14:21 PM)

Maybe its because I'm generation "Jersey Shore" but I'm not that choosey.
I mean- I am not going to sleep with any tom, dick or harry, but my standards aren't impossible and require just not being a shitty person. Once I feel I know and trust you enough to not be a shitty person- you're good. But I also have NO PROBLEM with women who have one night stands or are just out get sex. And I'd be lying if I said there weren't times I had sex just to have sex. I do not find it all that emotional. I don't feel a great connection. I've often just had friends who I turned into friends with benefits, and there has rarely ever been any emotional fall out when either of us get a partner. It doesn't take a special connection to have sex, for me.

In truth- if sex were safe and STD's were no concern, or murder or rape were no concern-or slut shaming- I'd have sex with a lot more people.

BUT-
I am monogamous right now. So- I'm not really proving anyone's point.
And I certainly think its silly to assume everyone on here is some horny nympho trolling for dick.

We all know we could just go to the closest watering hole to find that.





tj444 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 4:33:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Maybe its because I'm generation "Jersey Shore" but I'm not that choosey.
I mean- I am not going to sleep with any tom, dick or harry, but my standards aren't impossible and require just not being a shitty person. Once I feel I know and trust you enough to not be a shitty person- you're good. But I also have NO PROBLEM with women who have one night stands or are just out get sex. And I'd be lying if I said there weren't times I had sex just to have sex. I do not find it all that emotional. I don't feel a great connection. I've often just had friends who I turned into friends with benefits, and there has rarely ever been any emotional fall out when either of us get a partner. It doesn't take a special connection to have sex, for me.

In truth- if sex were safe and STD's were no concern, or murder or rape were no concern-or slut shaming- I'd have sex with a lot more people.

while I am picky now, I wasn't as picky at your age & sex wasn't always emotional for me then either.. and guys at 25 were much more attractive too, lots to choose from & super easy to meet them.. but as men age, well.. many men do not age very well (and they tend to go thru a mid-life crisis for several decades).. part of the reason I am picky is that I don't find many sane, age appropriate men (for me) that I am attracted to.. so, enjoy it while you can!..




shiftyw -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 7:01:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Maybe its because I'm generation "Jersey Shore" but I'm not that choosey.
I mean- I am not going to sleep with any tom, dick or harry, but my standards aren't impossible and require just not being a shitty person. Once I feel I know and trust you enough to not be a shitty person- you're good. But I also have NO PROBLEM with women who have one night stands or are just out get sex. And I'd be lying if I said there weren't times I had sex just to have sex. I do not find it all that emotional. I don't feel a great connection. I've often just had friends who I turned into friends with benefits, and there has rarely ever been any emotional fall out when either of us get a partner. It doesn't take a special connection to have sex, for me.

In truth- if sex were safe and STD's were no concern, or murder or rape were no concern-or slut shaming- I'd have sex with a lot more people.

while I am picky now, I wasn't as picky at your age & sex wasn't always emotional for me then either.. and guys at 25 were much more attractive too, lots to choose from & super easy to meet them.. but as men age, well.. many men do not age very well (and they tend to go thru a mid-life crisis for several decades).. part of the reason I am picky is that I don't find many sane, age appropriate men (for me) that I am attracted to.. so, enjoy it while you can!..


I'm a little bisexual. Although due to my current relationship status- ladies are sort of off the table unless we find a unicorn (and we aren't looking very hard).

But I think once all the guys get horrible and insecure about their hairlines, I'll just switch to ladies full time.




tj444 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 8:50:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw


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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Maybe its because I'm generation "Jersey Shore" but I'm not that choosey.
I mean- I am not going to sleep with any tom, dick or harry, but my standards aren't impossible and require just not being a shitty person. Once I feel I know and trust you enough to not be a shitty person- you're good. But I also have NO PROBLEM with women who have one night stands or are just out get sex. And I'd be lying if I said there weren't times I had sex just to have sex. I do not find it all that emotional. I don't feel a great connection. I've often just had friends who I turned into friends with benefits, and there has rarely ever been any emotional fall out when either of us get a partner. It doesn't take a special connection to have sex, for me.

In truth- if sex were safe and STD's were no concern, or murder or rape were no concern-or slut shaming- I'd have sex with a lot more people.

while I am picky now, I wasn't as picky at your age & sex wasn't always emotional for me then either.. and guys at 25 were much more attractive too, lots to choose from & super easy to meet them.. but as men age, well.. many men do not age very well (and they tend to go thru a mid-life crisis for several decades).. part of the reason I am picky is that I don't find many sane, age appropriate men (for me) that I am attracted to.. so, enjoy it while you can!..


I'm a little bisexual. Although due to my current relationship status- ladies are sort of off the table unless we find a unicorn (and we aren't looking very hard).

But I think once all the guys get horrible and insecure about their hairlines, I'll just switch to ladies full time.

well lucky you!.. I would switch if I could and have thought about it a few times but I just don't swing that way!.. [:(] or I would have long ago.. that would have made everything soooo much easier.. I wonder.. if.. if.. if I tried hypnosis, I wonder if that could switch me over.. hmmmm




DesFIP -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 9:26:13 PM)

I don't think it's regular sex that makes women happier. It's all the other stuff that comes in a relationship. Love, affection, emotional support. Unless that many of your female friends do get into booty call only relationships, I think you've misread what's happening.




littlewonder -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/1/2014 9:28:18 PM)

Sex is the easiest thing on earth to find for any woman. I can't even begin to explain just how easy it is. If a woman can't find sex she's obviously not interested in it.

Now I'm not talking about quality sex. I'm just talking about sex in general.

Quality is extremely hard to find.




FieryOpal -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/3/2014 12:01:52 AM)

The primary reason anybody can do without sex or cope better than others is due to self-control or the lack thereof. More self-control, more emphasis on quality sex. Less self-control, greater emphasis on quantity of sex-play partners vice holding out for a quality sex-play partner.

It's really quite simple. If this is your conclusive finding, then women in general must be able to exercise a higher degree of self-control than men do in general. I've known men who are selective, and I've known women who aren't so selective. Sometimes this is tied into ego/vanity issues.

I'm no saint in this respect. I've had periods of celibacy ranging from 1-3 years at a stretch a handful of times. There have been times when I got tired of waiting for Mr. Right (sub), and given someone a try-out who didn't exactly deserve it, which I then regretted because I let my horniness get the upper hand when I shouldn't have.

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ORIGINAL: altoonamaster

most woman on collarme do think about sex all the time thats why they are in here

[8|] No, those of us who are not here just for the forums and are actively seeking, are seeking relationship-worthy partners. Even those seeking compatible play partners would prefer to find a steady, trustworthy individual, not a horndog looking to get his freak on. Grow up, dude, you should know better at your past-middle-agedness. [>:]




ShaharThorne -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/3/2014 5:05:58 AM)

I have been celibate for at least 5 years now. My libido is shot. That does not mean I can't have fantasies but those stay in my mind...I got better things to do than think about sex.




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/3/2014 6:17:30 AM)

Wow, troll much?
You obviously haven't been talking to a lot of us, because MOST women I talk to on here find it TIRING that men talk about sex so much.

News to you, CollarMe is a fetish SOCIAL NETWORKING site. Saying most women on here joined to find sex is the same as saying most women who join Facebook are there looking for sex, which is equally untrue. Many people on here are either MARRIED or otherwise already in a relationship, and are just on here to Network and discuss D/s issues. (I'm sure some are even joining just for the stimulating political discussions[8|])


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ORIGINAL: altoonamaster

most woman on collarme do think about sex all the time thats why they are in here



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ORIGINAL: LadyPact



Any woman getting on the internet for sex makes about as much sense as driving twenty miles for a bottle of water rather than walking into the kitchen and turning on the tap. While males are always in the pursuit of sex, women, on the other hand, are constantly turning it down. Any woman with half a brain knows this and it's why women mention quality partners, rather than any partner.


EXXXXACTLY!




slavekate80 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 3:45:41 PM)

I wouldn't know. I rarely get any. I went 9 years without any sex, and since that dry spell ended, several weeks or months between encounters is still the usual case, and I've never gotten it regularly. It's rare that anyone asks me to sleep with him. As long as he's at least somewhat attractive and I trust him well enough to know he's not a serial killer I'll say yes, but that's certainly not an opportunity that comes along often. If I didn't have low standards for offline partners and didn't have the Internet to find better people online, I'd still be a virgin.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 3:51:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slavekate80

I wouldn't know. I rarely get any. I went 9 years without any sex, and since that dry spell ended, several weeks or months between encounters is still the usual case, and I've never gotten it regularly. It's rare that anyone asks me to sleep with him. As long as he's at least somewhat attractive and I trust him well enough to know he's not a serial killer I'll say yes, but that's certainly not an opportunity that comes along often. If I didn't have low standards for offline partners and didn't have the Internet to find better people online, I'd still be a virgin.



I do hope you are kidding, judging from your picture you are actually (and don't take that the wrong way, while not straight as an arrow, I'm mainly hetero) drop dead gorgeous. Are you surrounded by blind guys or what the hell is wrong? I'm not trying to come on or anything, but you could walk into any bar, pub or venue and have your pick of guys, all you seem to suffer from is low self-esteem, you certainly are everything but unattractive.




smileforme50 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 4:14:04 PM)

I have been celibate for several long stretches in my lifetime and for the most part it hasn't bothered me at all. In those cases I have been occupied with other aspects of my life....school, career advancement, working multiple jobs, family issues, and just finding other things to enjoy to take up my time.

Although I'm a bit different from what I'm reading from a lot of women here in that I did things a little backwards. I was more celibate and selective when I was younger. I think that was mostly because when I was in my late teens was when AIDS first came into the picture and a lot of people at that time started to re-think casual sex. I was also busy trying to get an education and build a career and the last thing I wanted to do at that time in my life was risk getting pregnant.

I'm a more relaxed about my sex life and sex partners now that I am older than I was when I was younger, but that in NO way means that I have sex on my mind all the time....that is absolutely not true.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 4:27:50 PM)

You know, I had to check your profile because your experience sounded pretty much like mine, trust me, the thing with AIDS lasted a while, even for people a bit younger than you are, while you might have lived with the first flare of it, the results and deaths came triggering in and were a reminder that with every person you have sex with, you also have sex with all the people they had sex with, which kinda made unprotected sex or being promiscuous a really scary idea.

I'm often stunned how careless teenagers are now, my biggest fear (and maybe I am overly paranoid in this) was always catching an STD, pregnancies there were the pill and IUDs, but just the idea of an STD still has me drying up.





slavekate80 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 4:57:04 PM)

I'm still learning how to navigate the bar scene, to be honest. Figuring out where the male:female ratio is likely to be high and there are plenty of guys looking, getting there at the right time of night, indicating interest without risking annoying them, etc. I was never taught any of this and I'm still working on it.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 5:32:14 PM)

Don't go in too late, all through college and university I worked bar, brilliant study in human behaviour, if you're there late they think you are easy picking and most of the guys are drunk, make them work for it, I don't mean that you do have to play too hard to get but if you are too available they will not respect you.

You are gorgeous, I looked at your profile, you have a job, you have submissive tendencies that run into enjoying rough sex and letting a guy direct you in your day to day life, you have NO idea how much of a catch you are, you need to learn that and then from knowing what you are worth and what you can get, you pick a guy who can give you what you want!




slavekate80 -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 7:40:59 PM)

Thank you. Well, late probably works better for me then - not really looking for a long-term relationship when I go out. I feel silly because I usually do okay finding partners online, but finding them offline is a big challenge. I'll keep working on it.

To the main topic, maybe it has something to do with how we evolved? From a genetic standpoint, men increase their chances of reproductive success by having frequent sex and theoretically can father hundreds or even thousands of children, but women's chances of reproductive success only go up if they have sex in a fairly narrow window of time and each woman's maximum number of offspring is much lower than a man's. There are about three weeks out of each fertile month when her odds of conception are very low. She won't conceive if she's already pregnant or recently gave birth. Her fertility is decreased if breastfeeding. High libido will help both men and women reproduce, but the evolutionary advantage it gives men is much greater. So it makes sense that there's a lot of overlap but the average man has a higher sex drive than the average woman.




Blonderfluff -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 7:44:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slavekate80

Thank you. Well, late probably works better for me then - not really looking for a long-term relationship when I go out. I feel silly because I usually do okay finding partners online, but finding them offline is a big challenge. I'll keep working on it.

To the main topic, maybe it has something to do with how we evolved? From a genetic standpoint, men increase their chances of reproductive success by having frequent sex and theoretically can father hundreds or even thousands of children, but women's chances of reproductive success only go up if they have sex in a fairly narrow window of time and each woman's maximum number of offspring is much lower than a man's. There are about three weeks out of each fertile month when her odds of conception are very low. She won't conceive if she's already pregnant or recently gave birth. Her fertility is decreased if breastfeeding. High libido will help both men and women reproduce, but the evolutionary advantage it gives men is much greater. So it makes sense that there's a lot of overlap but the average man has a higher sex drive than the average woman.

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Nineveh -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/6/2014 8:00:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

The primary reason anybody can do without sex or cope better than others is due to self-control or the lack thereof. More self-control, more emphasis on quality sex. Less self-control, greater emphasis on quantity of sex-play partners vice holding out for a quality sex-play partner.

It's really quite simple. If this is your conclusive finding, then women in general must be able to exercise a higher degree of self-control than men do in general. I've known men who are selective, and I've known women who aren't so selective. Sometimes this is tied into ego/vanity issues.

I'm no saint in this respect. I've had periods of celibacy ranging from 1-3 years at a stretch a handful of times. There have been times when I got tired of waiting for Mr. Right (sub), and given someone a try-out who didn't exactly deserve it, which I then regretted because I let my horniness get the upper hand when I shouldn't have.

quote:

ORIGINAL: altoonamaster

most woman on collarme do think about sex all the time thats why they are in here

[8|] No, those of us who are not here just for the forums and are actively seeking, are seeking relationship-worthy partners. Even those seeking compatible play partners would prefer to find a steady, trustworthy individual, not a horndog looking to get his freak on. Grow up, dude, you should know better at your past-middle-agedness. [>:]



On the other hand quality comes partly from experience and experience comes from quantity...




BecomingV -> RE: Women can do without sex better than can men (3/7/2014 12:46:57 AM)

Whoa! While most points are valid, I have to rebut these few other points. First, it is totally easy to get pregnant right after giving birth. Ask my sisters, born 11 months apart. Irish twins. My kids are a year apart and were breast fed. Nursing does not protect against pregnancy AND (isn't this a little pearl?) it can cause contractions which strengthen the pelvic floor and such, which can change the size of the diaphragm you need to wear. (9 months later...) So, um, experiences may differ.

The mythical sexuality of the average human male is just that; mythology. In patriarchal societies, the myth runs strong. Culture and societal pressures uphold it and determine behavior. When studying cultures in which women experience total sexual freedom, they are very busy and happy women.

So, IMO, "women can do without sex better than men" is just another patriarchal attempt to control the sexuality of women. I would react differently if asked a less global question that focused on individuals because as far as I can see, sexuality is very unique to each of us. I can discern no pattern in libido levels according to sex. I see much more of a connection between libido and productivity. Sexual people are doers and often exude magnetism. This is true of both women and of men.

Another thought... prison sex. Anthropologically speaking, in same-sex prisons, both men and women turn to who is available and change sexual behaviors while in that environment. That may inform us.

ETA: spelling

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ORIGINAL: slavekate80

Thank you. Well, late probably works better for me then - not really looking for a long-term relationship when I go out. I feel silly because I usually do okay finding partners online, but finding them offline is a big challenge. I'll keep working on it.

To the main topic, maybe it has something to do with how we evolved? From a genetic standpoint, men increase their chances of reproductive success by having frequent sex and theoretically can father hundreds or even thousands of children, but women's chances of reproductive success only go up if they have sex in a fairly narrow window of time and each woman's maximum number of offspring is much lower than a man's. There are about three weeks out of each fertile month when her odds of conception are very low. She won't conceive if she's already pregnant or recently gave birth. Her fertility is decreased if breastfeeding. High libido will help both men and women reproduce, but the evolutionary advantage it gives men is much greater. So it makes sense that there's a lot of overlap but the average man has a higher sex drive than the average woman.





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