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29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 6:14:47 PM   
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cnn.comKnife-wielding 'terrorists' kill 29, injure 130 at China train station


By Ralph Ellis, CNN

updated 8:46 PM EST, Sat March 1, 2014





Luggage lies scattered inside the Kunming Railway Station in Kunming, the capital of southwest China's Yunnan Province, on Saturday, March 1, after an attack left at least 29 dead and more than 100 injured. Luggage lies scattered inside the Kunming Railway Station in Kunming, the capital of southwest China's Yunnan Province, on Saturday, March 1, after an attack left at least 29 dead and more than 100 injured.

A group of unidentified armed men with knives stormed into the Kunming Railway Station, according to city police.

Police stand guard outside the Kunming Railway Station

Police gather near the scene of the attack.

The inside of the railway station is left in disarray after the attack.




Deadly China railway attack



STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: "We saw two people carrying big cleavers hacking whoever is in the way"
NEW: Police say separatist group from northwest China to blame
At least 29 are killed, 130 wounded
Four suspects reported killed




(CNN) -- Lu Haiyan said the slaughter began while she and a friend were standing in the ticket hall of a Chinese train station.

"Suddenly, many people started running around crazily," she said on Tencent Weibo, a Chinese equivalent of Twitter. "We saw two people carrying big cleavers hacking whoever is in the way. They almost got to my back. Then I lost contact with (my friend) and I saw blood splashing in front of me."

Twenty-nine people were killed and 130 were injured Saturday night when 10 men armed with long knives stormed the station in the southwest Chinese city of Kunming, the state news agency Xinhua reported.

Members of a separatist group from Xinjiang, in northwest China, are believed to have carried out the assault, authorities said. The report referred to them as "terrorists."

Police said they killed at least four attackers and shot and wounded a female suspect. Authorities were searching for other suspects.

The killing spree came out of nowhere.

Yang Haifei, a resident of Yunnan, told Xinhua he was buying a ticket when a group of people, most of them in black, rushed into the station with knives.

"I saw a person come straight at me with a long knife and I ran away with everyone," he said, adding that people who were slower were severely injured. "They just fell on the ground."

He said he sustained injuries to his chest and back.

Lu Haiyan said she ran to the main road.

"I ran to a restaurant already with a full crowd," she said. "The restaurant owner shut the door for quite some time before reopening it. Both my hands and legs are shaking."

Xinhua quoted a 50-year-old woman whose older husband was among those killed.

"Why are the terrorists so cruel?" said Chen Guizhen, holding her husband's bloodied ID card.

In the aftermath, postings on Sina Weibo, another Twitter-like social medium, showed local police patrolling the station, with bodies in blood lying on the ground. Chinese state TV showed investigators putting a knife with a blade at least 2 feet long into an evidence bag.

Mass knife attacks are not unprecedented in China. Some occurred in 2010 and 2012, but the attacks happened at schools and didn't appear to have political connections.

Chinese President Xi Jinping urged law enforcement "to investigate and solve the case and punish the terrorists in accordance with the law," according to Xinhua.

Xinhua said the Kunming railway station is one of the largest in southwest China.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang asked local authorities to ensure safety at public places, Xinhua reported.

Two weeks ago, 11 "terrorists" died in the Xinjiang region, Xinhua reported.

Frequent outbreaks of violence have beset Xinjiang, a resource-rich area where the arrival of waves of Han Chinese people over the decades has fueled tensions with the Uyghurs, a Turkic-speaking, predominantly Muslim ethnic group.

CNN's Phil Gast contributed to this report.




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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 6:37:34 PM   
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Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 6:49:04 PM   
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quote:

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Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

And was this really a knife attack?

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 6:55:10 PM   
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Ten men.


It`s not to far out to think ten men with knives acting in concert,attacking hundreds of people packed into a small room that was the train ticket cue,could cause that much damage.


The terror must have been awful.


As far as the disingenuous gun/knife comparisons....

Imagine how many more dead there`d be if the nra was able to place AK-47s in the hands of these ten murderers......?

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 7:03:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

And was this really a knife attack?

No they had ar-15s but thought it would sound better if they said knives.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 8:29:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

And was this really a knife attack?

No they had ar-15s but thought it would sound better if they said knives.

So you don't trust the American press but do trust the Chinese press?

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 8:32:55 PM   
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As far as the disingenuous gun/knife comparisons....

Where were those? I didn't see any.

Oh wait, I know...

K.


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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 8:50:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

And was this really a knife attack?

No they had ar-15s but thought it would sound better if they said knives.

So you don't trust the American press but do trust the Chinese press?

So do you assume they used guns and the Chinese press claimed it was knifes for some inscrutable reason.
Or do you assume that it didn't happen and the Chinese felt that a mass murder would make them part of the
world community?
Please tell us what facts your crystal ball has revealed to you that we mere mortals don't have.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 8:54:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Uh, 29 killed and over 130 injured by knife welding terrorists?

I have argued that a knife can be just as deadly as a gun in some situations. I can see how a number of knife armed men/women can kill 29 people in a short time, but 130 wounded?

And Chinese police claim four terrorists killed and one wounded?

How many were there?

And all of this is coming from the state news agency, so my question is, are they low balling the number killed and wounded? And considering the security inside china at various public areas, I have to ask where the police were?

And was this really a knife attack?

No they had ar-15s but thought it would sound better if they said knives.

So you don't trust the American press but do trust the Chinese press?

So do you assume they used guns and the Chinese press claimed it was knifes for some inscrutable reason.
Or do you assume that it didn't happen and the Chinese felt that a mass murder would make them part of the
world community?
Please tell us what facts your crystal ball has revealed to you that we mere mortals don't have.

No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 9:00:59 PM   
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No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:15:24 PM   
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quote:

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As far as the disingenuous gun/knife comparisons....

Where were those? I didn't see any.

Oh wait, I know...

K.




Well he assumed there would be, doesn't that count for anything?

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:17:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

As far as the disingenuous gun/knife comparisons....

Where were those? I didn't see any.

Oh wait, I know...

K.




Well he assumed there would be, doesn't that count for anything?

No

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:32:29 PM   
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No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


No. I'm just taking what the Chinese press reports with a great deal of skepticism. I find it odd that you don't after all the whining you've done about the western press.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:37:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


No. I'm just taking what the Chinese press reports with a great deal of skepticism. I find it odd that you don't after all the whining you've done about the western press.

I work with the facts at hand.
Find a different set of facts.
Or at least come up with any rational reason to disbelieve this.
You clearly do not know the difference between criticizing and whining.
I see you would rather talk about the press than the subject.
Normal when you have no facts to defend the socialist state, nothing bad could have happened there.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:40:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


No. I'm just taking what the Chinese press reports with a great deal of skepticism. I find it odd that you don't after all the whining you've done about the western press.

I work with the facts at hand.
You clearly do not know the difference between criticizing and whining.
I see you would rather talk about the press than the subject.
Normal when you have no facts to defend the socialist state, nothing bad could have happened there.

Who said that? You need to go back and reread what I've written more carefully if you think that is what I've claimed.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:42:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


No. I'm just taking what the Chinese press reports with a great deal of skepticism. I find it odd that you don't after all the whining you've done about the western press.

I work with the facts at hand.
You clearly do not know the difference between criticizing and whining.
I see you would rather talk about the press than the subject.
Normal when you have no facts to defend the socialist state, nothing bad could have happened there.

Who said that? You need to go back and reread what I've written more carefully if you think that is what I've claimed.

You have avoided the issue.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:43:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

No. I'm saying I don't know and I don't trust the Chinese to tell the truth about a terrorist attack against their own people.


So what? Your going to pretend that it didn't happen till Huffington tells you what to think?


No. I'm just taking what the Chinese press reports with a great deal of skepticism. I find it odd that you don't after all the whining you've done about the western press.

I work with the facts at hand.
You clearly do not know the difference between criticizing and whining.
I see you would rather talk about the press than the subject.
Normal when you have no facts to defend the socialist state, nothing bad could have happened there.

Who said that? You need to go back and reread what I've written more carefully if you think that is what I've claimed.

You have avoided the issue.

No, I have not. I simply questioned whether the attack occurred as the Chinese described it.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 10:48:26 PM   
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May i point out, that in past incidents were firearms were used, rare as those were, the Chinese press made damn sure the world new about it, with the implications the guns came from outside china.

I mean there is absolutely no chance of a black market operation in china that might deal in guns, ammo and other incidentals.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/1/2014 11:03:44 PM   
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No, I have not. I simply questioned whether the attack occurred as the Chinese described it.

Then give us a plausible alternative.

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RE: 29 killed in Chinese Kife attack - 3/2/2014 6:31:23 AM   
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Ten men.


It`s not to far out to think ten men with knives acting in concert,attacking hundreds of people packed into a small room that was the train ticket cue,could cause that much damage.


The terror must have been awful.


As far as the disingenuous gun/knife comparisons....

Imagine how many more dead there`d be if the nra was able to place AK-47s in the hands of these ten murderers......?


10 men? I am not as near impressed. When I first heard about this (someone mentioned it on Facebook) I was thinking. . . "Who pissed off a Sikh?"


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