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VideoAdminChi -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 5:14:05 PM)
Unlocked. As a reminder, while you may challenge posts, do not attack other posters or groups of posters.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 6:29:38 PM)
FR Now we can get to a focused topic.

TheHeretic -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 6:56:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi do not attack other posters or groups of posters. So we'll be seeing an "awaiting approval" on anyone who uses the phrase "gun nuts," then?

Owner59 -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 7:19:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi do not attack other posters or groups of posters. So we'll be seeing an "awaiting approval" on anyone who uses the phrase "gun nuts," then? Translation.....[sm=frown.gif] [:D]

Owner59 -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 7:36:59 PM)
What should gun fondlers who`re ok with 3000+ child gun deaths a year? Sane? [8\|]

GotSteel -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 8:40:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Did you kill a helpless Alzheimer patient? No but I was a finger twitch from killing looters after Hurricane Andrew. They decided to go rob a vacant house instead. Again, it isn't soaking in. There was no way to know the victim was an Alzheimer's patient. He was a person in the dark who was refusing to back off. Do you have the super powers to know the mental state, capabilities and what everyone within 50 feet of you is carrying?[8\|] You seem to think the homeowner did. No he seems to think that gun owners should have a responsibility to determine that they actually are in danger not just strap their fear goggles on to assume it or worse yet as in this case to actively pursue such a situation.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 8:43:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Did you kill a helpless Alzheimer patient? No but I was a finger twitch from killing looters after Hurricane Andrew. They decided to go rob a vacant house instead. Again, it isn't soaking in. There was no way to know the victim was an Alzheimer's patient. He was a person in the dark who was refusing to back off. Do you have the super powers to know the mental state, capabilities and what everyone within 50 feet of you is carrying?[8\|] You seem to think the homeowner did. No he seems to think that gun owners should have a responsibility to determine that they actually are in danger not just strap their fear goggles on to assume it or worse yet as in this case to actively pursue such a situation. Maybe they should warn someone coming at them before they shoot. Oh wait, Hendricks warned him THREE TIMES.

GotSteel -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 8:46:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy By calling it a "clean" shooting, one gets the idea that respondents here would have done the same thing. I get the idea that they consider what I'd consider to be at least negligent homicide to be a "clean shooting".

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 8:50:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy By calling it a "clean" shooting, one gets the idea that respondents here would have done the same thing. I get the idea that they consider what I'd consider to be at least negligent homicide to be a "clean shooting". Hendrix did everything the law required. Called 911 Warned the guy three times. In a similar situation I went for my gun after two warnings. My God do you need to be shot before you can fight back?

GotSteel -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 8:56:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel No he seems to think that gun owners should have a responsibility to determine that they actually are in danger not just strap their fear goggles on to assume it or worse yet as in this case to actively pursue such a situation. Maybe they should warn someone coming at them before they shoot. Oh wait, Hendricks warned him THREE TIMES. Please note that you've had to make up a position with your first sentence to argue against with your second sentence instead of addressing what I'm actually saying.

TheHeretic -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:00:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy By calling it a "clean" shooting, one gets the idea that respondents here would have done the same thing. I get the idea that they consider what I'd consider to be at least negligent homicide to be a "clean shooting". Would it help if you understood what the term means? The shooter was within his legal rights. What you "consider" is specifically excluded from consideration under the castle doctrine. Get over it. Let's try again. Anybody care to address the responsibility of the caregiver, in a demented man out wandering at night, trying to walk in the front door of people's homes, then banging, ringing bells, and lurking around in the backyard? The whole things sucks, and people telling repeated lies so they can push an agenda is why we find ourselves bringing out specific labels for those who prefer bullshit and arrogant ignorance to facing facts.

lovmuffin -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:02:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi do not attack other posters or groups of posters. So we'll be seeing an "awaiting approval" on anyone who uses the phrase "gun nuts," then? How about gun owners are cowards ? Though I think thats on a different thread but it's offensive as hell. I don't mind gun nuts so much. Nuts seems to be almost a term of endearment that applies to other areas of interest too.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:17:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel No he seems to think that gun owners should have a responsibility to determine that they actually are in danger not just strap their fear goggles on to assume it or worse yet as in this case to actively pursue such a situation. Maybe they should warn someone coming at them before they shoot. Oh wait, Hendricks warned him THREE TIMES. Please note that you've had to make up a position with your first sentence to argue against with your second sentence instead of addressing what I'm actually saying. Sorry didn't use the sarcasm font. The man didn't go off half cocked he warned him three times to stop. That would, to any reasonable person, be a fair indication of danger.

DomKen -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:18:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy By calling it a "clean" shooting, one gets the idea that respondents here would have done the same thing. I get the idea that they consider what I'd consider to be at least negligent homicide to be a "clean shooting". Hendrix did everything the law required. Called 911 Warned the guy three times. In a similar situation I went for my gun after two warnings. My God do you need to be shot before you can fight back? How about turn on a light so you can see what is going on?

GotSteel -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:19:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The shooter was within his legal rights. What you "consider" is specifically excluded from consideration under the castle doctrine. Get over it. Sure let's talk about castle doctrine, you know the phrase "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to him or herself or another"? These disagreements in various threads are often over whether strapping on the fear goggles constitutes a reasonable fear. quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Let's try again. Anybody care to address the responsibility of the caregiver, in a demented man out wandering at night, trying to walk in the front door of people's homes, then banging, ringing bells, and lurking around in the backyard? Nobody's saying that he should have been out wandering at night, we're saying that he shouldn't have been killed for it.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:19:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi do not attack other posters or groups of posters. So we'll be seeing an "awaiting approval" on anyone who uses the phrase "gun nuts," then? How about gun owners are cowards ? Though I think thats on a different thread but it's offensive as hell. I don't mind gun nuts so much. Nuts seems to be almost a term of endearment that applies to other areas of interest too. No that was on this thread, but he started it up again on another thread.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:23:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The shooter was within his legal rights. What you "consider" is specifically excluded from consideration under the castle doctrine. Get over it. Sure let's talk about castle doctrine, you know the phrase "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to him or herself or another"? These disagreements in various threads are often over whether strapping on the fear goggles constitutes a reasonable fear. quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Let's try again. Anybody care to address the responsibility of the caregiver, in a demented man out wandering at night, trying to walk in the front door of people's homes, then banging, ringing bells, and lurking around in the backyard? Nobody's saying that he should have been out wandering at night, we're saying that he shouldn't have been killed for it. He also was not killed for wandering around at night or because he had chewing gum in his pocket. He was shot because after three warnings he continued to advance with something that has been used as a murder weapon recently.

GotSteel -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:23:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen How about turn on a light so you can see what is going on? That's what I did, turned out it was a cop, the neighbors wanted my dog to stop barking. And there should be an outside light, I think that building code has been around for a while.

BamaD -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:24:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy By calling it a "clean" shooting, one gets the idea that respondents here would have done the same thing. I get the idea that they consider what I'd consider to be at least negligent homicide to be a "clean shooting". Hendrix did everything the law required. Called 911 Warned the guy three times. In a similar situation I went for my gun after two warnings. My God do you need to be shot before you can fight back? How about turn on a light so you can see what is going on? So that I am illuminated better than they are?

TheHeretic -> RE: Senseless shooting: Gunman kills man with Alzheimersquiquit (3/3/2014 9:31:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GotSteel strapping on the fear goggles Let's see... That's from the piece of shit thread where you threw out a study nobody could read without paying for, and came up with a nifty new phrase to smear people you disagree with, isn't it? IIRC, you never bothered to come back to discuss any of the points that were raised, just from the shred of data provided. Who's got fear goggles?

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