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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

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How nice that all the pro-gun people feel that shooting down someone simply because you thought they might be dangerous is okay. Most white males in this country vote Republican; they are definitely dangerous to my well-being; I guess I should just start taking them out. What am I waiting for. Seriously, this is what some of your arguments sound like. Hope all of you pro-gun types will be happy defending me when I shoot the next Republican I meet. What a sad state of affairs…..[&:]

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

What about a situation in which neither homeowner nor suspected intruder was remotely likely to have had a gun, say, because it was illegal for either party to have one?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

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How nice that all the pro-gun people feel that shooting down someone simply because you thought they might be dangerous is okay. Most white males in this country vote Republican; they are definitely dangerous to my well-being; I guess I should just start taking them out. What am I waiting for. Seriously, this is what some of your arguments sound like. Hope all of you pro-gun types will be happy defending me when I shoot the next Republican I meet. What a sad state of affairs…..[&:]

A completely irrational assessment of our position.

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


he intends to hurt you

there we have it, the assumption of gun owners. For too many gun owners this is the bottom line and the only line

That is not based on being a gun owner, it is based on spending a lifetime around cops.

cops spend their lives dealing with criminals, most people aren't criminals. Do you even consider that your view of people might be biased by that? We're not all trying to kill you ffs

ps. all three of your tag lines or whatever they are called are utter garbage and only help prove how one eyed you are about the world

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Why is the irresponsibility of his caregiver so readily dismissed.
That is why he got in this situation.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Why is the irresponsibility of his caregiver so readily dismissed.
That is why he got in this situation.

"[Mrs. Westbrook] said she installed alarms on her doors to prevent her husband from wandering, but she didn’t hear them when he left with the couple’s two dogs, possibly as early as 1am"

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/georgia-man-shot-dead-alzheimers-patient

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Interesting bit of backstory:

On 19 November, Hendrix’s fiancée called 911 just before midnight to report that a man carrying a piece of paper and a flashlight rang her doorbell and wanted to see a person whose name she did not recognise, according to Hendrix’s attorney and police reports obtained by the Associated Press under the state’s open records laws. The woman had only recently moved into the rented home and was suspicious, authorities said.

Worried, the fiancée called Hendrix, who told her to call 911. By the time Hendrix and police officers arrived, the suspicious man was gone. Afterward, Hendrix, a former soldier, took a Glock handgun from his apartment in nearby Chattanooga, Tennessee, and brought the weapon to his fiancée’s home.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/georgia-man-shot-dead-alzheimers-patient

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
Steel you just have to realize as I did that some people, even when fair minded on most subjects, loose their reason and to some extent their humanity when it comes to guns...

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

That is interesting, DC.

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Hill I can only imagine this was directed at me... I thought I had made myself clear earlier... The outrageous behavior was leaving the house... girlfriend unprotected... going out in the dark with no idea who, where, or how many were outside his door...AFTER the police were called and before they arrived. This yahoo but himself in a situation where he killed an innocent man... there should have been no three time to stop... there should have been a wait in the house for the police to arrive with a gun protecting his girlfriend and himself.

But instead he confronted someone with lethal force... who had just KNOCKED ON THE DAMN DOOR AND RANG THE BELL FOR CHRIST SAKE. Then shot him not once... not twice... not three times... but four damn times.

Now if that is not outrageous aggressive behavior and disregard for human life over someone knocking at the door then I don't know what is.


Butch

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
I do get that part, it's the fear goggles.

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It's really fucked up that you can't come up to any solution to this easily solvable problem besides killing unarmed old men.

Three warnings trump Monday morning quarterbacking.

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That is interesting, DC.

I thought so.

It may help explain the depth of Hendrix's sense of being in danger, perhaps from someone who'd just recently cased the joint.

Sadly, it may also shed a beam of light onto the sluggish police response. I can imagine the cops putting down their coffee and groaning, "Her again?"

To my nitpicky and legalistic mind, it also raises the intriguing question of whether "castle doctrine" applies to a guest in someone else's castle. (My guess: yes.) I also wondered if there are pertinent laws about a firearm's crossing a state line. (My guess: no idea!)

Then there's the agonizing irony that the fiance--alone, unarmed, not pulsing testosterone--handled things much better than when Hendrix tried to protect her.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
It wasn't knocking on the door that got him shot it was that he was warned not once, not twice, but three damn
times to stop coming at Hendrix. That many warnings are not the action of a trigger happy irresponsible person.