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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 12:42:18 PM

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I really appreciate that, guys. I don't think you could have offended me any more than you did, even if you called me a fudge-packing faggot girl.

Oh and I punched a superior at work for that one.

Well done.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 12:48:57 PM

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I really appreciate that, guys. I don't think you could have offended me any more than you did, even if you called me a fudge-packing faggot girl.

Oh and I punched a superior at work for that one.

Well done.

Not that it's really any of my business, but I don't think anyone intended to offend or insult you. KnightofMists has a strong personality, and like me, can have definite opinions about things. I have only read a couple of Miyani's posts, and I'm sure she has a strong personality also.

If it makes you feel any better, I've had that tendency of mine bite me in the arse every so often (and not in a nice way).

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 12:58:09 PM

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Firstly, I am no brat.

I fight for top. I always have, even when I'm getting destroyed. Saying I'm not an adult for that instinctual fight pisses me off.

Secondly, there is a massive line in this entire community that I need to stick to a role, or I'm not doing this properly. Go. Fuck. Yourself. I know who I am, and it's taken me a long time to come I terms with, ESPECIALLY due to the people in this community suggesting I don't know my place.

Just because people like their roles set in stone doesn't mean that I have to, or that it is fair to suggest that I am either a childish brat, or not an adult.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 1:19:01 PM

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Firstly, I am no brat.

but didn't you say this?

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Think of a brat on steroids.

And it was you that put what 'primal BDSMs' really means when you said;

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Doms should look out for subs who are primal - a primal sub can break a standard dom. Primal subs live to push their doms. Think of a brat on steroids. They're pushing the dom to fight harder. They want more. Doms often can't handle the challenge, and should be aware who they're dealing with. Don't just feel like you're not getting through to them: this is their nature, not a classic submissive.

Before you come back and say,

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Secondly, there is a massive line in this entire community that I need to stick to a role, or I'm not doing this properly.

and this

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Just because people like their roles set in stone doesn't mean that I have to, or that it is fair to suggest that I am either a childish brat, or not an adult.

You very much tryed to set in stone what 'Primal BDSM' was. If its your primal then thats all that matters but you worded your previous post as though your version was the only true way.

You were the one who called yourself a 'brat' before anyone else did and then you get angry because of the replies and blame 'us' for punching someone at work

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 1:28:01 PM

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I clarified that, if you will read further down, and I did apologise.

I am no brat, but it appears I am to most. Either they'd think I'm a massive brat, or seriously worried for my welfare.

None of this changes the fact that I'm not "not an adult" or someone who should be "kicked to the curb" as was said.

And no, I did not blame you for hitting my superior! I said you guys insulted me more than a superior who said that line to me. And I hit him in the face, so it should show you how I angry I am about it being suggested I'm that pathetic.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 2:53:47 PM

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I really appreciate that, guys. I don't think you could have offended me any more than you did, even if you called me a fudge-packing faggot girl.

Oh and I punched a superior at work for that one.

Well done.

Darling, you need to learn to stop and read what has actually been said, instead of having these knee-jerk reactions what you incorrectly assume is being said.

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If the idea of primals is to be a fuckin contentious brat.............fuck that. kick that shit to the curb in less than a minute, who needs that sort of shit.

mnottertail specifically said that he'd have no need for, and doesn't understand why anybody would have a need for, somebody who is a continuous brat.

If 'continuous brat', then 'kick to the curb'.

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ORIGINAL: Miyani
I will not tolerate a continued "struggle" to keep him there. Wrasslin' for fun is one thing, but if he's not enough of an adult to behave himself, if he doesn't want that place bad enough to stick to it, I do not have the time.

Miyabi specifically said she'd would not tolerate a continuous struggle, and that if her sub isn't adult enough to behave himself, she doesn't have the time for him.

If 'not adult to behave oneself' then 'don't have the time for them'.

Neither of them said anything about you specifically. Neither of them said anything you ought to even feel like you could take personally, because you have specifically said that you are not a brat, or at least not a continuous one. They were just making conversation about the topic of the thread, and the limits they set in their personal lives. You shouldn't have taken that personal in the slightest, because it didn't even concern you.

In the past couple of days, you've regularly gone off on tirades and have taken insult at posts that you have completely taken out of context. I think you should attempt to slow down when you're reading, and actually try to digest the meaning of what's being communicated, instead of your immediate knee-jerk reaction to what you think is being communicated. It will make your time on this board a whole lot more pleasant. Especially since apparently the frustration you're building up due to your lack of reading comprehension is causing you to lash out in a negative way at work.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 3:24:25 PM

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Firstly, I didn't lash out at work. I said I was offended. I gave an example of what someone said to me - that I was a "fudge-packing faggot girl" and I punched him for that, despite his rank. That was a long time ago, and if you read my post and comprehended it, you would have understood that.

Secondly, I don't appreciate your condescension. I'm an adult, and would appreciate not being called "darling" because I am NOT your darling. Nor am I anyone else's.

Thirdly, I read the posts. I just see everyone viewing anyone who fights back as "doing it wrong". Look at it from my perspective. I see everyone just saying these things about their subs. What if I was in that position? I'd be the one treated like crap for something that is just built into me.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 4:36:46 PM

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Thirdly, I read the posts. I just see everyone viewing anyone who fights back as "doing it wrong". Look at it from my perspective. I see everyone just saying these things about their subs. What if I was in that position? I'd be the one treated like crap for something that is just built into me.

Oh I see, you're upset because other people have said that they, in their relationship, have different standards then you do, and wouldn't accept certain behavior (that you've said you don't even engage in).

Though I do find it odd that you're so easily upset and offended by other people saying they want other things in their relationships than you do, while you have no problem going on the offensive, and calling people who don't think you can engage in BDSM with a person who doesn't have the capability to consent 'pathetic' and 'delusional'.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 4:47:46 PM

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In the thread you're referencing, as I have stated, everyone has the capability to consent. It's called staying vs leaving.

If they don't have that right, it's actual slavery, not BDSM.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/7/2014 9:37:28 PM

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So if I am correct then Primal BDSM (lifestyle or play) is about the "lizard brain" more or about people who live or play with more natural instinctual reaction? Where it is more okay to "play" by biting, clawing, pushing, and at a more extreme extent perhaps getting into things like hitting and grappling right?

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ORIGINAL: pg4g

I clarified that, if you will read further down, and I did apologise.

I am no brat, but it appears I am to most. Either they'd think I'm a massive brat, or seriously worried for my welfare.

Hey, I am just throwing this out, have you ever looked up SAM (Smart Ass Masochist) or Brat-sub? These may actually be something that fit you well if you would. The Brat-sub is from my understanding kind of like very defiant and fights back almost non-stop. Primal-subs can be similar but I mean Primal-subs (From what I know) go through the "breaking process" and then and more easily be managed with particular signs and stimulus (Much like a dog needs to be broken in to a new owner and trained). Brats are just that, they love to fight back and pick and tease, and generally can't be broken.

Now this is not me saying you are immature or that you are a bratty kid, but if you are searching for a title for your thoughts to help you compare SAM or Brat may be something you look for.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/8/2014 7:33:34 AM

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So if I am correct then Primal BDSM (lifestyle or play) is about the "lizard brain" more or about people who live or play with more natural instinctual reaction? Where it is more okay to "play" by biting, clawing, pushing, and at a more extreme extent perhaps getting into things like hitting and grappling right?

In my opinion yes....... This is how I see primal play. It not about the reaction to me but where it comes from.

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RE: Primal BDSM - 3/20/2014 10:27:55 AM

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I consider myself Primal and don't switch at all. For me, it's about animalistic dominance, a predator/prey relationship. I prefer teeth and nails to floggers, and discount bullwhips entirely - I want to be right up on him, smell the fear and lust, taste his sweat. There are a lot of takedowns - but never a power struggle. That's not how I roll, I'll just walk away from it.

So I think there are probably Primal doms, subs, switches, just like there are doms, subs, switches into any other kind of BDSM. And it's a super freakin' fun way to be!

This is exactly how I am though toys make my eyes light up in delight and it's why time with my sub can last for a really long time, I just crave more and more. Restraint is minimal once I get going (within discussed boundaries). I love the smell of a man, including in his fear and it heightens my excitement. His winces and grimaces make me laugh throatily because I'm just enjoying myself to no end. It's sort of like letting a tiger out of its cage and there is the tastiest lamb chop awaiting.
My eyes dilate and I become someone very different entirely.
Unleashing my true nature is very thrilling to me though without a sub, because I am monogamous and chaste, it's literally torture to be without that level of intimacy. And it takes an incredible level of self discipline which I enjoy as well. I relish challenges, especially storms within myself. Sometimes an aching can turn into actual physical pain, but that means the feeling will soon subside so I welcome the pangs of it.
It's literally a bdsm adventure unfolding with every playtime as a result of that so the pay off is worth it.
I have stated before that when I had less governance over the "primal" side of me, I found myself opening my eyes to realize I was sniffing my friend who was leaning over me! I was MORTIFIED. My mouth fell agape for half a second and I quickly collected myself and continued the casual conversation as if nothing had happened.

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