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Rawni -> RE: Pastor Joel Osteen (3/7/2014 10:29:00 AM)
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From terms of service at his web site.
WE ARE NOT LIABLE EVEN IF WE'VE BEEN NEGLIGENT OR IF OUR AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITIY OF SUCH DAMAGES OR BOTH.
EXCEPTION: CERTAIN STATE LAWS MAY NOT ALLOW US TO LIMIT OR EXCLUDE LIABILITY FOR THESE “INCIDENTAL” OR “CONSEQUENTIAL” DAMAGES. IF YOU LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE STATES, THE ABOVE LIMITATION WOULD NOT APPLY WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT TO RECOVER THESE TYPES OF DAMAGES.
HOWEVER, IN ANY EVENT, OUR LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ALL LOSSES, DAMAGES, INJURIES, AND CLAIMS OF ANY AND EVERY KIND (WHETHER THE DAMAGES ARE CLAIMED UNDER THE TERMS OF A CONTRACT, OR CLAIMED TO BE CAUSED BY NEGLIGLENCE OR OTHER WRONGFUL CONDUCT, OR THEY’RE CLAIMED UNDER ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY) WILL NOT BE GREATER THAN THE AMOUNT YOU PAID TO ACCESS OUR SITES.
This is not in keeping with the many bibles and research I have read and done. Where is accountability? I get that he/they must have some legal protections... but even from things that are their own fault? Oh... would not like to stand before his god on that one. Then what are the damages? Psychological maybe? Like someone mentally ill like his son? Okay... give him that one, but this doesn't line up in the big picture.
I do not see a huge outreach other than to promote books and events, featuring... you guessed it. There are few others that write books that are promoted and this is all about two people, making a splash with pretty words that tickle the ear drums of silly people, used in their belief system, to make a few people rich. With all that money... just think what good ol Joel could accomplish.
I tested many of the more public ministries... one passed. Dr. James Kennedy out of Florida. One... and that was out of all the major big names most know. I tested on... time they allowed a caller for assistance on their hot lines that actually turned more into.. we will pray for you and then ask for a donation, of course getting your address not to call and check on you, but to seek more funds for our pet projects. That often didn't actually do all they said they were doing. I tested on follow up. I tested on scripture based principles they taught and yet didn't seem to have in practice during these contacts. I tested on anything local that they were doing, advice given, how the person in need was handled and the time allowed for the call and a few other things. In general, they want you counseled, prayed with and making a donation in fifteen minutes.
The one that passed. Passed with flying colors... I spoke with his personal assistant, who sent books and then did a follow up call. No time limits and not one hint of wanting a donation.
It is by your fruit you shall be known and through that eye of the needle and those that called him Lord, Lord... many shall be shocked when he says... I never knew your name. Fruit isn't what many think it is... just because many follow... doesn't mean that they are wise to follow and they follow a good thing.
Smile pretty... talk modern ear tickling stuff and yes, you too may prosper. Work it baby. He is truly working hard for his money. (Thank you Donna Summers)
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