Zonie63
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I wonder, in perhaps inflammatory terms, if this is a takeover, an annihilation of sorts, that we don't see because we are in it. Maybe historians would know this, but it seems to me that what is going on with the middle and lower classes of American is much like what went on pre-Holocaust. We question how the "regular folk" in Germany did not sense the malice; the pending destruction. Americans are sick and dying, struggling and suffering - because of the things I listed here. Are we focused elsewhere and not noticing the massive numbers of slow deaths?
A populous dying of a caustic and toxic environment is one way to weed out those pesky future social security and medicare bills. Seriously, I know I risk coming off like a conspiracy freak but does anyone else see what I mean? It's as if we are worker ants whose only value is derived from our ability to make the rich richer.
Your thoughts?
I don't know that this is a takeover or an annihilation of any sort. Regarding all that you mentioned above and the general conditions in America today, in my view, none of this should be any surprise to anyone. Most of what we're experiencing now could have been (and should have been) anticipated decades ago.
I won't presume any grandiose conspiracy or ulterior motive on the part of the powers that be, other than subscribing to the general notion that "power corrupts." There's also a theory about civilizations and great empires of the past which reached a pinnacle of success, but once they got to that plateau, they couldn't see any other place to go. They can't see the next challenge and don't know what to do with themselves, so complacency and apathy tend to pervade society, as we're seeing presently in America. Once enough people get it in their heads that "it doesn't get any better than this," then it won't get better; it can only get worse.
And that's probably what has happened to America.
Also, we do have a bit of a checkered past in this country. Our size and immense wealth are the results of policies and practices for which we've since expressed some level of national regret - but long after the damage was done and only after the wealth was securely in our possession. And a lot of what we've attained in this country was also due to luck and the fortune of being in the right place at the right time. We were on a sparsely-populated continent, teeming with resources and millions upon millions of acres of arable land. We were far enough away from Europe and buffered by the oceans that we could do our own thing without much interference from the outside world.
The relationship between the wealthy and the worker ants has had its ups and downs, but it's probably relatively better now than it was 100-200 years ago. The worker ants have been known to get a bit ornery on occasion, so the wealthy have to make concessions from time to time. In America, we were able to acquire enough wealth that the rich could still get richer and have enough left over so that the middle class and even the poor could at least have sustenance and live relatively better than in the past. Compared to most other countries around the world, the "worker ants" here in America aren't really doing too badly. To be sure, it's no picnic, but it could be much worse.
I think the main worry now seems to be that the "good times" are over and that we may be reverting to an older, more primitive form of political/economic hierarchy which we thought we were progressing away from. Our resources are not as plentiful as they once were, prices are getting higher but wages are not catching up. We're saddled with huge debts, not just the national debt, but millions of Americans with huge private debts, with bankruptcies and foreclosures being some of the consequences.
It's not just a matter of the rich wanting to get richer, since they've always been doing that. That's the one constant in this country which has never really changed. But in past eras, America still grew, improved, progressed, and prospered. But now, it seems as if we're going backward and our national wealth is diminishing.
I suppose it might seem all the more galling that the rich still want to get richer when it's their bad leadership which has fucked everything up. The current generation of America's ruling class should really be hanging their heads in shame at what a lousy job they've done, especially considering the extremely advantageous and fortunate position they inherited right after World War II when America was the only major industrial power left standing. For the ruling class to fuck everything up so badly and so quickly is a testament to their incompetence.
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That's low? Compared to 3,20 in the USA?
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