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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/9/2014 12:36:12 PM   
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The latest reports are now saying there were possibly a few more who boarded with false documentation and military radar is suggesting that the aircraft turned from its course, all without any contact with ATC.

The reason I discussed it with Bama is because terrorism is a part of life, if Bama wanted to discuss the dangers of flying, based on an aircrafts maintenance system then that's what his post would have centered around.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself in saying that whatever security check they ran failed, allowing we don't know who to get in that aircraft with two stolen passports.

I have respect for Mr Curtis and the products that Boeing his former company produces, however, Mr. Curtis is not a accident/incident investigator, he is PR.

Perhaps I come from a different mindset than you, but I will comment on your "rogue" or oops we forgot to tell anyone that we were deploying missiles and if by some "accident" a SAM hit that aircraft at 35,000 ft, and a government or their military maintains silence, it should be looked on as an act of aggression.





Even if it was a freak massive equipment failure your concerns about the lack of Interpol checks is valid.
While waiting to find the wreck and inspecting it that should be fixed post haste.
Even if totally unrelated to this incident it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I must admit to a typo in the title.
It should have read Another terrorist strike against China?
I am totally open to other explanations.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/9/2014 12:38:57 PM   
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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/9/2014 12:50:46 PM   
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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/9/2014 12:55:05 PM   
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I download the no fly and selectee list from the TSA into my computer system 6 days a week, it takes about 7 minutes. Yes the international (interpool) list is a lot larger but don't you think it's worth the time to prevent shit like this from happening?

Of course

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/9/2014 4:27:44 PM   
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I can't find anything that talks of evidence for that, PS. It seems like just another theory, so far.



I just reported the report....... It was on the BBC web site earlier but doesnt seem to be now.

"What we have done is actually look into the recording on the radar that we have and we realized there is a possibility the aircraft did make a turnback," Rodzali Daud, the Royal Malaysian Air Force chief, told reporters at a news conference."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140309


The news hounds are going to be hungry for anything that the officials can offer up. That's understandable. Whatever: I would not jump to any conclusion - as indeed you haven't - about terrorist activity. From what I can make out, passengers with false passports are much more likely to be interested in emigrating or immigrating illegally than blowing up the plane, for instance.

And from previous experience of planes vanishing - it could take literally years to find out what's happened. Actually, it's this point I can't quite get my head around. It's not just the plane's normal communications technology, plus its black box . . . there were no doubt lots of people on the plane who had mobile phones and other gadgets that are easy to locate. I thought that, in this day and age, it was easy to find anyone, including anyone in a plane who has one of these many gadgets.


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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 3:34:51 PM   
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The more they say the less they seem to know.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 5:38:42 PM   
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The more they say the less they seem to know.

Oh I really hope you can see the irony of that statement.......

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:04:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was a very somber day at work today. We are a small group and my pilots are my family. The aviation community lost some brothers and sisters on that flight. You can almost bet that with all that is being said, there is also information that is not being released.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:35:47 PM   
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The more they say the less they seem to know.

Oh I really hope you can see the irony of that statement.......

Yes most recent thing I heard was that the oil spill wasn't the plane.
They seem to be retreating from what they thought they knew.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:38:12 PM   
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It was a very somber day at work today. We are a small group and my pilots are my family. The aviation community lost some brothers and sisters on that flight. You can almost bet that with all that is being said, there is also information that is not being released.

It never occurred to me that they had told us everything, in case it was an attack they have to hold stuff back
so as not to tip off the bad guys.
And if it makes the airlines look bad they would as soon everybody not know for as long as possible.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:39:32 PM   
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It was a very somber day at work today. We are a small group and my pilots are my family. The aviation community lost some brothers and sisters on that flight. You can almost bet that with all that is being said, there is also information that is not being released.

In fact the most important information is what is most likely to be held back.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:42:59 PM   
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this is no time for politics.


says the man who started this thread labelled " another terror attack against China"

no time for politics indeed............ now I haven't read every post thoroughly but I suspect if 239 people who were Americans had been on this flight there would have been a massive outpouring of "praying for them" and "sympathy for their relatives" and "god bless them, it's such a terrible tragedy" etc etc

but this is no time for politics after all

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:46:23 PM   
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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:48:17 PM   
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this is no time for politics.


says the man who started this thread labelled " another terror attack against China"

no time for politics indeed............ now I haven't read every post thoroughly but I suspect if 239 people who were Americans had been on this flight there would have been a massive outpouring of "praying for them" and "sympathy for their relatives" and "god bless them, it's such a terrible tragedy" etc etc

but this is no time for politics after all

you are entitled to your opinion. As you can see this has become a tragedy thread not a terror thread.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 6:52:34 PM   
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this is no time for politics.


says the man who started this thread labelled " another terror attack against China"

no time for politics indeed............ now I haven't read every post thoroughly but I suspect if 239 people who were Americans had been on this flight there would have been a massive outpouring of "praying for them" and "sympathy for their relatives" and "god bless them, it's such a terrible tragedy" etc etc

but this is no time for politics after all

you are entitled to your opinion. As you can see this has become a tragedy thread not a terror thread.

shame you didn't consider that possibility when you started it, but I guess people have axes they want to grind don't they?

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 7:00:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

this is no time for politics.


says the man who started this thread labelled " another terror attack against China"

no time for politics indeed............ now I haven't read every post thoroughly but I suspect if 239 people who were Americans had been on this flight there would have been a massive outpouring of "praying for them" and "sympathy for their relatives" and "god bless them, it's such a terrible tragedy" etc etc

but this is no time for politics after all

you are entitled to your opinion. As you can see this has become a tragedy thread not a terror thread.

shame you didn't consider that possibility when you started it, but I guess people have axes they want to grind don't they?

Once again you misjudge me, I have no problem with the course the thread has taken, just because you
expect me to have an axe to grind doesn't make it so.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 7:06:22 PM   
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you misjudge me

nope

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 7:06:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it had been Americans, and yes there were a few Americans aboard that flight the discussion would have been the same. If someone would have made a thread in regards to the SOB's (souls on board) I would have participated in that thread. The discussion was in regards to a possible terrorist attack aboard an airline, I think the only axe to grind would be against whoever perpetrated this act if it was terroristic in nature and the government agencies responsible for the inept security check.

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/10/2014 11:10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		It will take time to figure out what happened to that plane. With the evidence that several passengers were using stolen passports many are yapping about terrorism. I keep wondering if it was simply an older pastime from that area, piracy.

Anyway, what appeared to be an airplane door was floating garbage. The oil slick the Vietnamese spotted turns out to be marine oil and nothing from an airplane.

Voice of America has a web page with succinct facts of what is known to date.

http://www.voanews.com/content/vietnam-searchers-fail-to-find-debris-from-missing-airliner/1867761.html

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RE: Another terror attack against China. - 3/14/2014 11:12:57 AM   
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It will take time to figure out what happened to that plane. With the evidence that several passengers were using stolen passports many are yapping about terrorism. I keep wondering if it was simply an older pastime from that area, piracy.

Anyway, what appeared to be an airplane door was floating garbage. The oil slick the Vietnamese spotted turns out to be marine oil and nothing from an airplane.

Voice of America has a web page with succinct facts of what is known to date.

http://www.voanews.com/content/vietnam-searchers-fail-to-find-debris-from-missing-airliner/1867761.html


The investigation seems to be focusing on foul play.

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