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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 4:04:13 AM

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Some of you may be asking yourself, Did He invent this cockeyed story to make a few friends? Is this what it is all about?

It is neither an invention nor cockeyed, but if believing this helps put you at ease, it is better to be a friend than an enemy.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 4:27:37 AM

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As my friend you may be pleasantly surprised to discover that I was telling you the truth.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 4:49:51 AM

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There is a young woman who I like a lot, but when I told her that I wanted to be friends, she freaked out. Such is life. Are you so jaded that you cannot understand such things? Now that she found someone she is a more secure and finds the notion less objectionable. So if you freaked out when I suggested it, what does it say about you? Are you insecure or secure?

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 4:53:45 AM

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How fascinating. I didnt know that story.

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Good morning BenevolentM

Care to share a wise word today? I have my ears on.

Yes, little one.

For those who are interested in what the Spear of Destiny is.

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http://io9.com/5889471/what-is-the-spear-of-destiny-and-where-can-you-get-it

(The Spear of Destiny is a) spear with a mystical background (that) gives the one wielding it powers to bend the destiny of the world to his or her will. It sounds like a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, but (the) truth is far more bizarre ...

As such my claim is an audacious one. Be my guest if you wish to be my foe. You may find it is better to be my friend, than my enemy. Unfortunately, the proclivity of man is to be an enemy.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 5:15:35 AM

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Is it true despite my occasional misogynistic demeanor I am something of a feminist? Albert Einstein once thought he found his Marie Curie, but it didn't work out. He ended up using her as a domestic servant. I have yet to find my Marie Curie. It is a fantasy that men such as myself have. It is said that it is often those things that are unattainable that one desires most. With Albert Einstein I image it did not work out because his work was solitary. The work that was carried out by Pierre Curie, her husband, and Marie Curie was something that could be shared and so in this respect they were lucky. Radium has a physical existence outside the person. I face the same problem and so it is my destiny to use my beloved as a servant much as he did.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 5:19:33 AM

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How fascinating. I didnt know that story.

It was a gift for those who felt that I ran them over like a German panzer division.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 5:41:45 AM

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It was clear to me we were already friends.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 11:35:26 AM

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"No more soup for you!" Ha. FAMOUS SEINFELD EPISODE. Thank you, I am not here for your reasoning though. I do have a reason. So part of the word is right. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svSGKJFSl-8

This is the sort of thing I'm talking about, the inability to engage in intellectual discourse. Just make assertions and talk about feelings maybe with some Bible quote tourettes thrown in.

You asked me earlier "do you feel you are never wrong?" you should already know the answer to that. At least someone able to reason their way out of a paper bag would be able to remember that I just told you I used to be Christian and make inferences from that.

Having just talked to you about a case where I was wrong you shouldn't need to wonder if I think I'm never wrong.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 11:52:24 AM

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 12:22:28 PM

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I'm sorry I can't hear you, this paper bag is thick. Excuse me that I can't remember everything about you and that it was so important to you that I did. Ask me a question, but try to keep the insults to the minimum. I might have to put a paper bag over your head.

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"No more soup for you!" Ha. FAMOUS SEINFELD EPISODE. Thank you, I am not here for your reasoning though. I do have a reason. So part of the word is right. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svSGKJFSl-8

This is the sort of thing I'm talking about, the inability to engage in intellectual discourse. Just make assertions and talk about feelings maybe with some Bible quote tourettes thrown in.

You asked me earlier "do you feel you are never wrong?" you should already know the answer to that. At least someone able to reason their way out of a paper bag would be able to remember that I just told you I used to be Christian and make inferences from that.

Having just talked to you about a case where I was wrong you shouldn't need to wonder if I think I'm never wrong.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 4:59:50 PM

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You must be covered in maple syrup in order for the flies to like you so chatterbox24. Did you make pancakes for breakfast? We have intellectual discourse, but the flies prefer intercourse.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/24/2014 9:18:14 PM

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chatterbox24 I noticed that in "Religion will become as unacceptable as racism" said you have four Bibles. No wonder the Evil One is after you. Don't bring that filth in here the devil says.

MrBukani wrote in

Religion will become as unacceptable as racism
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4654446/mpage_29/tm.htm

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There is a rumor going that catholic schoolgirls are among the most dirty sexlovers. Why is that? Is that good?

I believe this matter could be pursued intellectually. Catholic girls are kind to me. I cannot speak from experience, but what MrBukani makes some sense in that Catholics feel loved. You are morally upright because God has called you to be morally upright, because it is good to be morally upright. It can take time to make that choice. Is that good? It shows that the Church does not employ terror to achieve its ends.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 2:54:58 AM

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chatterbox24 I noticed that in "Religion will become as unacceptable as racism" said you have four Bibles. No wonder the Evil One is after you. Don't bring that filth in here the devil says.

MrBukani wrote in

Religion will become as unacceptable as racism
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4654446/mpage_29/tm.htm

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There is a rumor going that catholic schoolgirls are among the most dirty sexlovers. Why is that? Is that good?

I believe this matter could be pursued intellectually. Catholic girls are kind to me. I cannot speak from experience, but what MrBukani makes some sense in that Catholics feel loved. You are morally upright because God has called you to be morally upright, because it is good to be morally upright. It can take time to make that choice. Is that good? It shows that the Church does not employ terror to achieve its ends.

Good morning my friend.
I could have remained a fly, but flies are pesty and vile, and produce maggots. I prefer being a caterpillar transformed to a butterfly. Much prettier with all kinds of different colors with better thoughts associated to them, would you agree?
Whoops, there I go again, not being able to make intellectual conversation. I smile with that said. Its good being God odd.
I am not Catholic, I am a mutt. I say mutt lovingly, you have called it the protestant party line. AND YOU ARE CORRECT!!!! 100%. I respect the Catholic church, who knows maybe one day that's where I will be. My roots are diverse
having some practice in the protestant faith, and some fond experiences with the Catholic faith. Is not protestant all branching off of the Catholic church?
I hate to break the news, but dirty catholic girl does not apply to me. hahaha. You may refer to me as the Beautiful Baptist, or the Molding Methodist, or the Finishing First Christian. I don't mean looks either...........lol....not completely anyway.
Overall being a Christian is awesome!!!!!!! Did I say AWESOME? In case I forgot, I will say it again. It is AWESOME.
Is it without suffering? Is it all rainbows and lollipops? No sometimes it is extremely difficult. But it is the good path, and one is rewarded for it. As you say BenevolentM, the proof is in the pudding.

p.s. I didn't have pancakes for breakfast. I had fruit.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 4:27:06 AM

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I believe this matter could be pursued intellectually. Catholic girls are kind to me. I cannot speak from experience, but what MrBukani makes some sense in that Catholics feel loved. You are morally upright because God has called you to be morally upright, because it is good to be morally upright. It can take time to make that choice. Is that good? It shows that the Church does not employ terror to achieve its ends.

I believe there may also be an additional factor at work. Having to mate for life it seems likely would create pressure for romantic desirability.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 6:22:44 AM

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One of my favorite movies is IQ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110099/. I recommend that you see it. Is Algae a color? It is a line from the film. The sweetness of the film is good for my heart.

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Is not protestant all branching off of the Catholic church?

There is something called Apostolic succession which is important that I shall ignore for the sake of brevity.

Christian and Catholic were once synonymous. The Lutherans are Protestant in that there is a clear genealogy. With some Christian denominations it is generous to call them Protestant because there is no clear genealogy. By Protestant I mean Christian, but not Catholic.

Catholicism is orthodox Christianity. Legal processes are orthodox in some respects. There is an opinion that matters and opinions that do not matter. If you are elected to congress, your opinion matters. If you are a judge, your opinion matters. In orthodoxy opinion is excluded to the greatest extent possible so that right and wrong is objective to the extent practicable. My work will permit the Church to go beyond what it has been able to achieve historically as this is concerned. It will solve a number of long standing problems, gaps in our understanding, which encourage people to stray and fall into apostasy.

In Catholicism morality is regarded as having an objective reality. Thus, you cannot reform the Church by stating an opinion. Opinion carries with it no weight which may be shocking to those who feel they are entitled to an opinion. According to the Church right and wrong are like the laws of physics in that they are objective. You cannot alter the values of the universal constants through wishful thinking.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 6:55:27 AM

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Because my work is a work of man I have dominion.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 6:59:11 AM

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Because my work is a work of man I have dominion.

What this means is I am not someone you should mess with. Why? Because it's stupid.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 7:16:08 AM

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How could I go about screwing up people if I wanted to? I could give group A an ideological advantage over group B because I felt like it.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 7:49:58 AM

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Excuse me that I can't remember everything about you and that it was so important to you that I did.

I'm not expecting you to remember everything about me but note how in this recent conversation I've given you the information that I used to be Christian and even your direct response doesn't take that into account.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4652753/mpage_5/key_skepticism/tm.htm#4655715

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While I expect it's comforting to tell yourself we don't understand, that's not the case. I spent the first half of my life as a Christian and others here have reported similar stories. We aren't speaking out because we understand less than you, we're speaking out because we understand more.

Im right your wrong. IM always right. Didn't you know that? RIght as rain. I will never be wrong as long as I live. ITs not in my vocabulary. DId I tell you I disagree? Yes IM right, definitely, for sure. No doubt about it..........around the mulberry bush we go.
I actually do understand, and IM sorry it was a bad experience. I left a few times, and then came back. NO arguments that you feel I don't understand.

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RE: What good is morality anyway? - 3/25/2014 8:30:47 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_4652753/mpage_5/key_skepticism/tm.htm#4655715

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While I expect it's comforting to tell yourself we don't understand, that's not the case. I spent the first half of my life as a Christian and others here have reported similar stories. We aren't speaking out because we understand less than you, we're speaking out because we understand more.

Unfortunately, your assertion is ambiguous. That you left suggests that you did not grasp it. The same is true for everyone who has a similar story as yours. Since Christianity is difficult to grasp, the ambiguity is not in your favor.

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