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Something that I finally realized while attending a zen buddhist monastery in kyoto

At least we now know who to blame.

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just a quirk of the subconscious that generates bigotry: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/buried-prejudice-the-bigot-in-your-brain/

Now this seems strange and self-serving. Darwin evolution being used to explain that chaos is the result of chaos. Doesn't this argument strike you as convenient and self-serving?

Why would anyone believe that if prejudice is the end product of evolution that it is illegitimate? Isn't evolution the result of empirical evidence accumulated by living organisms over billions of years? How many years has liberalism had to arrive at its conclusions?

I would think that if the scientific community were intellectually honest that such evidence would convince them that liberalism was a bit off the mark. The bias seems more the result of the religious having abandoned academia and the resulting vacuum than with what the evidence actually shows.

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All morality requires is a little empathy.

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The devil further says, "And while you're at it since you are compelled not to be hypocrites, free the devils trapped in Hell as well."

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Since evolution does not create perfect forms the situation is confusing. Is homosexuality a manifestation of an imperfection that we inherited from an imperfect process or does it serve a purpose, an albeit recessive trait?

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There is a peculiar trend.

What good is morality anyway?
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There is more interest when I am the predominant poster. There was also a dip just after the sexual assault.

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God is the Vine and can branch anywhere He sees fit. He can not be contained and can be everywhere at One time. A very hard concept to believe I know. But I speak Truth. Pure.

You blaspheme!!

Any good gardener knows that while a vine might look good on the outside, beneath the greenery it invades, stiffles other living plants, and roots destroy brickwork and masonary and is generally destructive.

Pure?? Nope. Pure crap maybe. But nothing nice or good.
Like the vine - a creeping menace that needs to be heavily contained or destroyed.

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Jack and the Beanstalk, an excellent reading for children.

Yes - and just like the holy book, it is a fictional story.
Maybe, when you grow up and realise this, you'll treat it as it is - just a story and nothing more.

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For those who need proof, we do not have the human interpretation to express it to you. It lies with you to find it and ask for it.

No, you have no proof and therefore cannot prove it to us or anyone else.
This is just a strawman.

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Second, the superiority of secular morality. If I can nudge you in the direction of thinking about what's best for humans, maybe you'll stop oppressing homosexuals which would be great for the collarchat community.

If I told you I love homosexuals, would you believe me? Would you believe me if I said even I love the ones who spit on me?

We've all heard the hate the sin love the sinner bit before, that's not the issue. The issue is that you're denying roughly ten percent of the population the same quality of life you expect.

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As a good parent does, although they love their children, decisions are made that may anger them, or cause them grief inside, and we continue to do it, because we know as good parents it is in their best interest.

You have no business and no right to force your beliefs on homosexuals, what you are doing is morally reprehensible. Anyway you want to spin that analogy it's still the case that YOU ARE NOT THE PARENT.

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People are allowed to live as they chose as adults, and I do not suppress it.

Except that you do.

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But when it comes to making decisions, that have been directed by the Power of Awareness, also called Enlightment, then I will make a stance.

You're just talking to yourself. It's stereotypical for christian extremists to pretend we haven't had the same experiences. I can assure you that in my case that's bull. I've been there done that. Something that I finally realized while attending a zen buddhist monastery in kyoto is that it's all you.

There are Jews being told to deny Jesus, terrorists being told to light the fuse, Islamists being told to oppress christians, buddhists being told to oppress women and you being told to oppress homosexuals.

You haven't gained access to some Truth anymore than the people who want to murder you just for being christian have. There's just a quirk of the subconscious that generates bigotry: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/buried-prejudice-the-bigot-in-your-brain/

In your case against homosexuals, if that bigotry wasn't there, this is what your love for homosexuals would look like:

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You blaspheme!!

Any good gardener knows that while a vine might look good on the outside, beneath the greenery it invades, stiffles other living plants, and roots destroy brickwork and masonary and is generally destructive.

11. Thou shalt offend neither the grape nor thy dictionary.

(I just added that one)

K.