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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What happened:

Reeva Steenkamp, a 29-year-old model, law school graduate and budding reality-television star, was shot to death through a locked bathroom door at Mr. Pistorius’s villa in a gated complex in Pretoria.

He (Pistorius, the shooter) has described the episode as a tragic accident, saying he mistook her for an intruder. The state has charged him with premeditated murder, which carries a minimum 25-year prison term on conviction.


Although this happened in another country, the facts are a text book example of "living in fear" and the stupid use of guns for "protection" and "self-defense."

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In a newspaper article this week, the crime writer Margie Orford asked whether the notion of an intruder in crime-ridden South Africa was a reference to “the figure of the threatening black stranger,” which she said was “perhaps the most atavistic of white South African fears” molded by the specter of “swart gevaar,” or “black peril,” that underpinned apartheid.

“So many men in South Africa,” she added in the article, “exist in this state of macho hair-trigger tension in which action comes, all too often, before thought.”

"macho," "hair trigger tension," "action before thought" ---- Where have we seen these elements combine before?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

"macho," "hair trigger tension," "action before thought" ---- Where have we seen these elements combine before?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Assuming it was not a premeditated murder, what makes someone live in such fear that they run for a firearm and shoot it at another so recklessly? Where does this fear come from and to what larger things can it be traced? Pistorius lived in a gated community with private guards..... In theory all Pistorius needs is another person living in world of imaginary fears and threats --- to believe his self defense claims.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

Really ?........... You seem to set a different standard for those that kill someone in the US.

Maybe using a few brain cells would have stopped Zimmerman from following Martin, as he was asked.
Maybe a few brain cells would have stopped something from over reacting when popcorn was thrown at him.

I could go on but people will get the general idea.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

it was in the middle of the night, if he was asleep, as he claims, he likely was not completely awake and aware & mistook what he heard and what he thought was going on..

I have a problem with some of the witness testimony.. humans make the worst witnesses and the ones that testified they heard shots and screams (when they only just woke up) could have been mistaken on if they were gun shots or the bat hitting the door to open in and the screams being the girls and not his.. when my alarm wakes me in the morning I sometimes am not awake enough and think its the telephone ringing.. so I discount their version of what they think they heard.. However, testimony given by others is harder to discount so I cant say how I feel about his guilt..

This is a hard one to call, imo.. I would not want to be the Judge in this case...

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What happened:

Reeva Steenkamp, a 29-year-old model, law school graduate and budding reality-television star, was shot to death through a locked bathroom door at Mr. Pistorius’s villa in a gated complex in Pretoria.

He (Pistorius, the shooter) has described the episode as a tragic accident, saying he mistook her for an intruder. The state has charged him with premeditated murder, which carries a minimum 25-year prison term on conviction.


Although this happened in another country, the facts are a text book example of "living in fear" and the stupid use of guns for "protection" and "self-defense."

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In a newspaper article this week, the crime writer Margie Orford asked whether the notion of an intruder in crime-ridden South Africa was a reference to “the figure of the threatening black stranger,” which she said was “perhaps the most atavistic of white South African fears” molded by the specter of “swart gevaar,” or “black peril,” that underpinned apartheid.

“So many men in South Africa,” she added in the article, “exist in this state of macho hair-trigger tension in which action comes, all too often, before thought.”

"macho," "hair trigger tension," "action before thought" ---- Where have we seen these elements combine before?

Yes Pistorius was stupid first rule of hunting, let alone self defense is don't shoot at something you can't see.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What happened:

Reeva Steenkamp, a 29-year-old model, law school graduate and budding reality-television star, was shot to death through a locked bathroom door at Mr. Pistorius’s villa in a gated complex in Pretoria.

He (Pistorius, the shooter) has described the episode as a tragic accident, saying he mistook her for an intruder. The state has charged him with premeditated murder, which carries a minimum 25-year prison term on conviction.


Although this happened in another country, the facts are a text book example of "living in fear" and the stupid use of guns for "protection" and "self-defense."

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In a newspaper article this week, the crime writer Margie Orford asked whether the notion of an intruder in crime-ridden South Africa was a reference to “the figure of the threatening black stranger,” which she said was “perhaps the most atavistic of white South African fears” molded by the specter of “swart gevaar,” or “black peril,” that underpinned apartheid.

“So many men in South Africa,” she added in the article, “exist in this state of macho hair-trigger tension in which action comes, all too often, before thought.”

"macho," "hair trigger tension," "action before thought" ---- Where have we seen these elements combine before?

Yes Pistorius was stupid first rule of hunting, let alone self defense is don't shoot at something you can't see.

If this had happened in a stand your ground case, you'd be arguing that he couldn't take that chance, and had every right to shoot to defend himself.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still if he had used two brain cells he could have avoided this.

You think this South African should behave in a smarter way than the trigger happy Americans you constantly defend? There are many cases in the U.S. where if the shooter had just had two brain cells the death of an innocent person could have been avoided. What's different here that you are singing such a different song? So do you think Americans just lack brain cells to begin with, so there should be no expectation of proper thinking during confrontations in the U.S.? How sad that you have such a low opinion of Americans.