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kittysbell -> 50s style household (3/10/2014 9:48:59 PM)
wheres a young 30 something girl overcoming the debilitating condition of transex find a living situation wher she can learn all the oldschool social roles that were constraining to her gender,so that she might know when shes beaking them? i wish to learn the skills of a housewife,to relish in the protection of such a role. to be cared for,taught like a daughter. navigating scripts,style,mannerism, all those things other girls are taught through emulation since birth.a catchup period to be done with this transitionary phase.forewarning: taking on such a project is not a lighthearted task,physical correction must always be the goal,and its costly.

Rawni -> RE: 50s style household (3/10/2014 10:26:49 PM)
It seems you have some idyllic view of what it was like to be a wife in a fifties household. There may have been protected, wonderful homes, families, spouses and all... but really, many were far from idyllic. Women if they were able went to college, were educated and yet were expected to typically give that up when they found their husband. They bore the brunt of whatever that husband provided, whether he was good at it or not. I would recommend learning a bit about the history of women. Yes, we were taught even in the sixties when I grew up... to be subservient, though divorce was quickly rising and families surely were not protected. Some of that didn't start until the seventies and well into the eighties and those are issues that were alive and well in the fifties. One thing many of these women taught to me was to be dishonest. Have hidden money you steal from the household funds. Let your husband think he rules the roost, but know exactly who really does. Lies... more lies and why? Because they couldn't be honest, the roles were so ingrained that even if one were to be 'protected' they were not much of the time. Thus the divorces, the changes, the laws being changed, etc. The pretty pictures of the Nelson and the Donna Reed families as well as many others, were just that. Father didn't always know best. Timmy and his dog Lassie didn't always have a home where mom and dad paid attention even to a smart dog. The Beaver's didn't always learn a good lesson in parenting and life in thirty minutes. It just wasn't real. If women were protected... learned their place by way of correction, etc. and were happy about it... we wouldn't have had such great movements in the following decades.

kalikshama -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:44:52 AM)
Perhaps look for a man interested in "Taken in Hand" style relationships. There's another phrase as well, but it escapes me.

searching4mysir -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:57:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama Perhaps look for a man interested in "Taken in Hand" style relationships. There's another phrase as well, but it escapes me. Domestic Discipline?

MissImmortalPain -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 9:25:28 AM)
Surrendered wife. A very happy place for more women than one might think. I couldn't do it but I know several ladies that can and are happy about it.

RottenJohnny -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 10:34:39 AM)
FR Just a thought... In addition to the other suggestions, you might find some useful information in books about social etiquette (19th/20th century, Victorian, Edwardian, etc).

kalikshama -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 10:37:17 AM)
I believe Domestic Discipline was it, thanks!

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 10:43:14 AM)
Welcome to the discussion side Kitty. I'm not sure where in OH you're located, some areas have a pretty strong kink scene. I urge you to join your local community and don't give up hope of finding the man for you. There's tons of information here, so please stick around and join in our discussions.

kittysbell -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:14:49 PM)
think a few took something wrong,or really i worded it wrong without thinking,lol .'physical correction' is refering to genital realignment surgery. though i dont mind a little "manhandling" and could see pinches or face slaps or something as a way to initially reinforce etiquette . guess what i was trying to get at was a project,simply for doing good for another, so as to catch me up with all the social scripts helping me blend into the future without so much discrimination. realy it could be a request for motherly/older sister type of assistance. i assume most of the human animal is sex driven so i imagine only a man would enjoy the "fruits of his labor" providing the finacial ability to aquire life saving corrective surgery.

ARIES83 -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:24:58 PM)
Unfortunately, many resources associated with the terms "Taken in Hand" and "Domestic Discipline" are amongst the biggest loads of drivel I've found on the internet. For example, bare bottom, over the knee spankings seem to be a common occurrence in the theme of domestic discipline.... I find it a form of funishment when the idea is taken lightly, but I find it quite troubling when the idea is considered serious discipline... I believe it can be symbolic, it can be erotic, it can be a lot of things... But serious punishment to me is something that is not erotic for either party. I find any use of the bible in a sudo-sexual context to be weird. I find when someone needs to rely on the bible to convince others of whatever authority they perceive themselves as having... They are actually demonstrating a distinct lack of it. While there are some good points which I can take from the bible regarding D/s, I attribute that to my ability to find something to appreciate in almost anything. As for "50s Style" households, I actually have mixed feelings about that... I think that in the actual 50s, acceptable gender roles were an unfortunate consequence of society. Rather than a healthy expression of individuals, and as a result I feel a lot of women (and men) may have been left by the wayside, somewhat less unfortunately now, though I feel the social scale has moved from male entitlement to female entitlement, spawning a lot of unhealthy social conventions along the way and we are yet to find a balance. Society doesn't live in my house, I do. And as far as I'm concerned, "A man's home is his castle." Society doesn't entitle me anything within, nor do things within entitle me to anything without. Who we are, and what we can do is what is important to me, not what people say we are and what we are told we can do. It's by testing the limits of what you can do, by which you decide what you should do. I think It's by having the ability to cause any amount pain, suffering and misery without constraint that we find temperance and become magnanimous. Ehh, rather than go too sidetracked I'll just say I think it comes down to temperament, some have an unworthy temperament. 50's lifestyle can just as easily mean, 'spoilt man-brat'. So anyway, as for where you would find the caring yet strict D/s environment You are looking for... It's not where, rather who. Just as it's not a type of kink you are looking for but a type of person. Good luck!

kalikshama -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:40:53 PM)
quote: guess what i was trying to get at was a project,simply for doing good for another, so as to catch me up with all the social scripts helping me blend into the future without so much discrimination. realy it could be a request for motherly/older sister type of assistance. i assume most of the human animal is sex driven so i imagine only a man would enjoy the "fruits of his labor" providing the finacial ability to aquire life saving corrective surgery. If you were local to me, I'd be happy to help you with social scripts (although I'm probably too much of a tom boy to be a good role mode)l and you could likely find other women willing to help with this, but I don't think you should plan on anyone else footing the bill.

Rawni -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 8:55:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittysbell think a few took something wrong,or really i worded it wrong without thinking,lol .'physical correction' is refering to genital realignment surgery. though i dont mind a little "manhandling" and could see pinches or face slaps or something as a way to initially reinforce etiquette . guess what i was trying to get at was a project,simply for doing good for another, so as to catch me up with all the social scripts helping me blend into the future without so much discrimination. realy it could be a request for motherly/older sister type of assistance. i assume most of the human animal is sex driven so i imagine only a man would enjoy the "fruits of his labor" providing the finacial ability to aquire life saving corrective surgery. So basically, you are looking for a safe place to live, then learn and have someone take care of you and pay for your life saving surgery. The last part was added this post, which makes the first post make more sense. Don't know where you can find that. Sounds like a lot to ask of strangers.

ARIES83 -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 10:33:45 PM)
Hang on there... Am I to take it, that you're looking for someone to pay for your surgery? Or am I reading that wrong? It's not unprecedented, at least the general idea... Men pay for their lady's breast implants all the time. But if that's the case I'm going to have to go 'Judge Judy' on your ass, and ask why can't you pay for your own dam surgery?

kittysbell -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 11:06:26 PM)
in a society that doesnt deem fit to grant employment,housing,hatecrime,nor apparently medical protections i fail to see how i ever could,lol. but thats not the point,but the goal.to understand the stryfe associated this disorder of sex ,is to want to correct it.something those involved would be pushing for,irregardless of current feasability. if one isnt seeing this as training a feral disfigured girl to be a woman,then their looking at it wrong.

Rawni -> RE: 50s style household (3/11/2014 11:23:49 PM)
I'm sorry and truly don't mean to be rude, but you are not the first to grace this forum with the same challenges you have. Some of us are well versed and others informed. The path you are on is not easy. How are others walking a similar path, doing it?

evesgrden -> RE: 50s style household (3/12/2014 12:43:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittysbell guess what i was trying to get at was a project,simply for doing good for another, so as to catch me up with all the social scripts helping me blend into the future without so much discrimination. realy it could be a request for motherly/older sister type of assistance. i assume most of the human animal is sex driven so i imagine only a man would enjoy the "fruits of his labor" providing the finacial ability to aquire life saving corrective surgery. This is not life saving surgery. You do not have a disease. Your body is not giving out on you. You are in a situaion in which you don't want the features of the body you were born with. This is a psychological condition, not a medical one. One way to address it is with surgery. Now you need to ask yourself why someone would look to this forum so that they could pay for elective surgery for someone they don't know. We're not talking about paying for a loved one's heart transplant, we're talking about expensive and intrusive cosmetic surgery. You're offering yourself for a price.... to anyone willing to pay. You said it yourself that "physical correction is the goal". Not partnership, not love, not service, but rather having someone meet your needs; expensive, exacting, long term physical and financial needs for the sake of "doing good". I suggest you join a MtF group. I suggest counseling. I suggest you just find someone you like to be with and who likes to be with you. Someone who wants to be a sugardaddy or sugarmomma is not looking for a partner that needs work. Almost by definition they are looking for a trophy type model. They may pay for enhancements, but trasformations? Why would they bother? To be nice to someone who wants them for their wallet????? good luck with that

FeralFoxy -> RE: 50s style household (3/12/2014 5:58:06 AM)
I feel for you. I'm a trans person as well, and so far I have not even been able to afford hormones, let alone surgery. So many trans people live in poverty, barely able to pay their bills. Hormones and surgery - which truly are life saving - are often out of reach. I would encourage you to contact your local LGBT center and ask about support groups and resources. If you like, you can PM me on the other side, and I'd be happy to help with some legwork.

kittysbell -> RE: 50s style household (3/12/2014 10:09:30 AM)
actually transex is hermaphroditic in system structure,a female nervous system bombarded by a male endocrine. the central nervous unit has a map of what the bodie should be, as itself is a sexed organ.nerves are very real,and for the preop transex the brain is receiving signals from the nerve endings in our genitalia an elsewhar that somethings wrong "these should not be exposed an vulnerable but safely tucked inside. the catch 22 of asking for help in a bdsm scenario to correct a misunderstood condition is not lost on me. really its quit sad that we would be left with such thoughts as a means to acquire medical intervention. not as if most of us have family and friends to help navigate even the social hurdles. i may be vannila,but not in the sense of this scene,ive been homeless ive been passed house to house in "support" groups,an ya know what ive learned? people dont care about anything but their own sexual wants.an even within this conglomerate of dissimilar modes of existence known as the political terminology of trans"gender", where biologic variation of the intersex,the utter disfigurement of the transex,to the expression or lack therof of the androgynous,the performance of a drag ,the fetishism of the transvestite;are all dissimilarly viewed under the same ignorant lens most of society continues to use. its not that im selling myself to anyone willing to pay,ive walked before,but that this states the motivation and needs of this particular individual so as not to be misconstrued with the abundant forced fem stories dredged up from those who would never take medical steps as they dont have a disorder of sex. also know that i do work despite the inability to find a job in this evil social climate. im a volunteer who gives her all just to merely survive off odd jobs that arise from such efforts. its not that i dont aspire to be self sufficient,its that im not allowed in a world where a bigots opinions worth more than my legal gender on my ID. normalicy is not am option for the oppressed,so why not play with the idea here,who knows maybe i will find someone who would enjoy the challenge. heres a quick educational video from stanford university destroying the notion that the condition is purely of the psychiatric realm http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DA3C4ZJ7HyuE%26feature%3Dshare&a=aETO6tfmuRzvrqeyCfAs8g

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: 50s style household (3/12/2014 10:27:34 AM)
Many of us understand you have an actual physical disorder. Unfortunately none of us are in the position to change the medical community's views on this (unless we do it one person at a time.) Societal views also need changing, but I feel certain that will come in time. In my own lifetime I have seen homosexuality go from something that was illegal and never spoken about to something that is open and legal. Soon homosexuals will be able to marry no matter what state they are in. So there is hope for you, but you fail to see it. You are far too caught up in the fact that you were born this way and it's unfair. You are not the only person in the world who's had to go through this. Nor are you the only person who's been born with something that made their life difficult. You have allowed this to grow inside you so that it's all you are. Case in point, you don't care enough to communicate with us to make sure your posts are legible and literate. Because you can't care about anyone but you. Life dealt you a raw deal, I get that. Who you are as a person is how you handle that. Will you let it destroy you? Or will you find a way to be happy despite it? That's a decision only you can make. What any of this has to do with a 50s household I have no idea, but I will welcome you to the discussion side of CM, where we don't tell you what you want to hear, but what you need to hear.

kalikshama -> RE: 50s style household (3/12/2014 10:37:02 AM)
When I was diagnosed with a chronic illness in 1999, I felt like a victim. Why People Don't Heal and How They Can helped me out of that headspace and into proactivity. This book is available in my library system so perhaps in yours as well.

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