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Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:30:20 AM)

Where are my wings.
Silver things I floated on.
When I was young.

The mysteries.
Awaited me.
Like dreams.

Where are my wings.
I'm falling.

Where are my dreams.
I've fallen.

Child hood ends.
With open eyes.

When all I believe.
I believe to be lies.


In your face.
By Me, when I was a teen.
May be crap to you, but why not post some of yours for us to judge.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:32:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

   Who am I to judge?  I'm somebody who understands that the LAST THING that anyone wants to see when reading a profile is.......
                   Shrouded by darkness,
                   My life an eternal enigma,
                   I crawl into my master's arms,
                   (Etc., more shitty generic lines)

    I'm not passing a judgment on anybody's moral fiber or worth here.....I'm just saying that 99.99999999999999999999999999999% of poetry (or "deep" song lyrics) posted on CollarMe seem about as appealing as Japenese ritual suicide or getting your face smacked with a red-hot waffle iron.



You know what everyone wants?
So why not get us all matched up and Collarme can shut down.
By the way.....do you know what you want? Why are you here?



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:34:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

TreSwank isn't trying to tell anyone what to think- he's simply an apologist of good taste.


Reminds me of the Jimmy episode of Seinfeld.



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:34:55 AM)

During a heated discussion about what might be the most fitting-name for your average, leopard-print wearing, slicked-back hair sporting, mustachioed slimeball, the final contenders were Deuce Ramone and Tre Swank.  My friend took the sobriquet "Deuce Ramone" while I took the latter.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:37:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

During a heated discussion about what might be the most fitting-name for your average, leopard-print wearing, slicked-back hair sporting, mustachioed slimeball, the final contenders were Deuce Ramone and Tre Swank.  My friend took the sobriquet "Deuce Ramone" while I took the latter.


Hehe. Okay, you asked for it. Suits you [;)]



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:40:13 AM)

Man, you should have dressed better, got a better haircut and grown a real crop of facial affectation before you started this. Or used an avatar.
Heeeheeeee Not really being that cruel, you just triggered my sarcasm nerve guy. [:D]



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:47:56 AM)

I'm amused.  I mean, it's not every day that a used up older fellow who had his photo made at Glamor-Shots can poke fun at a young, cute, trenchant-witted guy, who can dress up in a hoody and sport a five o' clock shadow, and still pull off good looking.  You'd better step outside and enjoy the weather, brother, because your biological Death-Watch is ticking down as we speak.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:51:31 AM)

Hehe. Good one.
Seems it's more of a 5 and 7 o'clock shadow, and maybe a bit of lunch under the lip.

Glamor-shot!?? shot? Awwww you flatter me.

I'm smokin and drinkin as fast as I can, but the damn clock is soooooo slow.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:54:11 AM)

So pony up some poems man. show us the quality stuff. Easy to read some and judge it good or bad. Write us a good one.



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:55:09 AM)

Note to Users:  If you don't possess the scholarly chops to pull off a proper put- down on TreSwank, you should probably pick up some constructive hobby, like learning to knit an afghan.



doll -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 12:55:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

I'm amused.  I mean, it's not every day that a used up older fellow who had his photo made at Glamor-Shots can poke fun at a young, cute, trenchant-witted guy, who can dress up in a hoody and sport a five o' clock shadow, and still pull off good looking.  You'd better step outside and enjoy the weather, brother, because your biological Death-Watch is ticking down as we speak.


*shakes head and says nothing*.....not worth it....you are too full of yourself...sighs....makes me so proud to support the armed forces...rme's.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:04:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

Note to Users:  If you don't possess the scholarly chops to pull off a proper put- down on TreSwank, you should probably pick up some constructive hobby, like learning to knit an afghan.


Scholarly chops? So you might read some poetry. Maybe teacher told you what you should consider is good. If that is where it ended, then you miss the point of poetry altogether.

It isn't graded. It is whether any individual bit of it strikes some chord in you. Or even better, if you can put some feelings of you into words that another might understand.

But understanding words of feelings is just smoke. The words mean what the person who reads them feels. And what the person who wrote them........well that might have changed as they put them down.

One day a poem may mean something to you, or the person who wtrote it. The next, it may be nonsense.

Poems are feelings. Nobody hears or feels the words the same way. Even the writer can leave that place in a moment.



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:15:21 AM)

No one ever told me what was "good" literature, Kedikat.  As of right now, I'm reading Iceberg Slim, Jim Goad, and Jeff Rassoul (J-Man Times.....great indie zine), and I find value in anyone whose life observations transcend the narcissistic and morbid self-observation that I tend to find in alot of crap online. Just because somebody knows the definition of "iambic pentameter", doesn't mean they should automatically start exposing their embarrassing life revelations in front of the world.  It doesn't take balls.......but it does require a ton  of naivete masked under the guise of worldliness.



joyinslavery -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:21:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

I'm amused.  I mean, it's not every day that a used up older fellow who had his photo made at Glamor-Shots can poke fun at a young, cute, trenchant-witted guy, who can dress up in a hoody and sport a five o' clock shadow, and still pull off good looking.  You'd better step outside and enjoy the weather, brother, because your biological Death-Watch is ticking down as we speak.



Young and dumb.  That pretty much sums it up.  Regardless of the esteem in which you hold yourself, the reality is, you're a dime-a-dozen.  And come to think of it, common.   



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:27:35 AM)

Thank you for the default, generic, older guy condescending to younger male post.  "When all else fails, BLAME IT ON HIS YOUTH!!!!!"



joyinslavery -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:30:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

Thank you for the default, generic, older guy condescending to younger male post.  "When all else fails, BLAME IT ON HIS YOUTH!!!!!"


Thanks for the confirmation.



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:34:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

No one ever told me what was "good" literature, Kedikat.  As of right now, I'm reading Iceberg Slim, Jim Goad, and Jeff Rassoul (J-Man Times.....great indie zine), and I find value in anyone whose life observations transcend the narcissistic and morbid self-observation that I tend to find in alot of crap online. Just because somebody knows the definition of "iambic pentameter", doesn't mean they should automatically start exposing their embarrassing life revelations in front of the world.  It doesn't take balls.......but it does require a ton  of naivete masked under the guise of worldliness.


Again.....show us your balls. Write us a poem. You critique that which you seem unable or unwilling to do. So what is your critique worth? Especially in the ephemeral realm of feelings in words. Your post and followups become more nothingness. I am sure the list of authors you note have folks who love them and hate them. Who is the ultimate judge?



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:37:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank

Note to Users:  If you don't possess the scholarly chops to pull off a proper put- down on TreSwank, you should probably pick up some constructive hobby, like learning to knit an afghan.


So was your lame cheap shot about my age a course you took in university?



Kedikat -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 1:40:46 AM)

Really, there is of course good and bad poetry and literature. But it is always in the eye/mind of the beholder.
What really cheesed me off was the attack on folks trying to put their feelings into words in posts and profiles.
They aren't trying to sell a book or be famous. Just trying to say a bit of their heart and mind.

Be kind. Tolerant.



TreSwank -> RE: BAD ONLINE POETRY (7/8/2006 2:01:31 AM)

During this whole thread, I've had only one iota of support from a strapping fellow who took the initiative to send me a personal message.  I'm not going to reveal the sender's identity out of respect for his privacy........but here's the post.

    "I just read your "shitty poetry" thread, and I couldn't agree more. (I would've replied in the thread, but for some reason I can't log in there.) I now feel somewhat compensated for all the times I've been forced to lie through my teeth and compliment women for their unsightly soul-bearing. Somebody really had to say it. :D"
 
       Needless to say, this individual is now on my favorite's list!



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