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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
I`m a little tickled....... by the neo-cons here bashing what is the natural result of their party`s vile and disgusting anti-homosexual rhetoric...

(WASHINGTON, DC) – Reports linking Vice President Al Gore with notorious anti-gay activist Fred Phelps, Jr., and the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas were confirmed with the release of photographs showing Gore at a fundraiser at the home of Fred Phelps, Jr., who told the Conservative News Service on October 16 that he served as a Gore delegate on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta in 1988.

Gore, who was quoted by the Nashville Tennessean in 1984 saying homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 US Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," reportedly sought the support of the Phelps family in his 1988 presidential campaign, and invited the Phelpses to the Clinton-Gore inaugurations of January 1993 and January 1997.


Yep. The neo-cons....

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Conventon has it that we ought not speak ill of the dead.

A sentiment I generally agree with and usually observe but this is one of those rare circumstanceS in which I am willing to make an exception.

I've always wondered how someone who violates his principles can continue to believe that he has them.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Conventon has it that we ought not speak ill of the dead. Or as in this case those about to die.

Have a look at the link I posted, tweak: the arsewit has left the building, at last.

As for your other point, I've never held with not speaking ill of somebody, just because they've died, particularly if you never had a good word for them* when they were still breathing and making a tit of themselves. To me, that smacks of the vilest form of mealy mouthed hypocrisy. Fuck that.

*("Cunt" doesn't count.)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
I`m a little tickled....... by the neo-cons here bashing what is the natural result of their party`s vile and disgusting anti-homosexual rhetoric...

(WASHINGTON, DC) – Reports linking Vice President Al Gore with notorious anti-gay activist Fred Phelps, Jr., and the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas were confirmed with the release of photographs showing Gore at a fundraiser at the home of Fred Phelps, Jr., who told the Conservative News Service on October 16 that he served as a Gore delegate on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta in 1988.

Gore, who was quoted by the Nashville Tennessean in 1984 saying homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 US Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," reportedly sought the support of the Phelps family in his 1988 presidential campaign, and invited the Phelpses to the Clinton-Gore inaugurations of January 1993 and January 1997.


Yep. The neo-cons....

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Conventon has it that we ought not speak ill of the dead.

A sentiment I generally agree with and usually observe but this is one of those rare circumstanceS in which I am willing to make an exception.

I've always wondered how someone who violates his principles can continue to believe that he has them.

K.

Pay attention to politics, Mr K. It' a daily occurance there. Almost an entry requirement.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Sorry Obi wan...the hate is too strong with this one. Some are beyond help. Kinda like Phelps.

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If that's an insult to your character, you're pretty thin skinned.

1) "someone"
2) it's speculative

If it's giving you pause, then maybe he's on to something.

But also,
3) his statement doesn't judge it either, but observes it.

And frankly, I frequently see people violating their principles day to day, and continue to believe they "have" them. It *is* an interesting human trait.

I do get how being pulled up short isn't fun. I once mentioned to someone that "old behaviors" were creeping in. He pointed out that they weren't old behaviors if I was still doing them. Ouch. But spot on. And it stung not because I'd been insulted, but because I was presented with the truth, despite the justification I'd been feeding myself.

And I'm not judging or criticizing you either. I'm making an observation, one that's not hard to see people doing.

Your role was just presenting an off the rack example.

Suggestion -- move on with your day.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
I`m a little tickled....... by the neo-cons here bashing what is the natural result of their party`s vile and disgusting anti-homosexual rhetoric...

(WASHINGTON, DC) – Reports linking Vice President Al Gore with notorious anti-gay activist Fred Phelps, Jr., and the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas were confirmed with the release of photographs showing Gore at a fundraiser at the home of Fred Phelps, Jr., who told the Conservative News Service on October 16 that he served as a Gore delegate on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta in 1988.

Gore, who was quoted by the Nashville Tennessean in 1984 saying homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 US Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," reportedly sought the support of the Phelps family in his 1988 presidential campaign, and invited the Phelpses to the Clinton-Gore inaugurations of January 1993 and January 1997.


Yep. The neo-cons....

Sorry Obi wan...the hate is too strong with this one. Some are beyond help. Kinda like Phelps.

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I am at a loss to understand your complaint. I said nothing about or to you, nor did I agree with K's remarks. I made what I thought was, and intended to be an impersonal comment about the lack of principle in public life. It was most definitely not directed at you.

If you feel offended then I am sorry that you do but I remain mystified how I may have contributed to that feeling.