Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Gun control in the U.K.


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Gun control in the U.K. Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 8:57:44 AM   
MercTech


Posts: 3706
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: offline 		http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle558-20100221-07.html

Leads to an interesting history of a dissenting voice.
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 9:40:46 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle558-20100221-07.html

Leads to an interesting history of a dissenting voice.

While I see the parallels I don't see British gun control to be anymore my business
than ours is theirs

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to MercTech)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 9:54:40 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others. I know you prefer to already know.

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:15:23 AM   
freedomdwarf1


Posts: 6845
Joined: 10/23/2012
Status: offline 		FR~

It seems to been written with a very specific slant as if we are overly oppressed about our gun ownership and control laws.
It is certainly taken from a very pro-gun ownership perspective.

What the writer obviously missed is the fact that for most of us, we actually prefer our laws to that extreme with regard to firearms being in the hands of the general populace.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:16:51 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others. I know you prefer to already know.

Wrong again I just don't think their laws are any of my business and I'm not going to argue about them
By the same token it is not their place to talk down to us about our laws.
And I don't have to rant about how stupid their laws are to learn how they do things.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:18:17 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		I'm not wrong -- you've just reaffirmed the point to which I'm responding.

If you simply feel this isn't your business, then simply don't get into the thread.






< Message edited by Musicmystery -- 3/21/2014 10:22:37 AM >

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:22:45 AM   
lovmuffin


Posts: 3759
Joined: 9/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others.


And you certainly make a good point. I think he makes an implication though that gun control in the US would be a very slippery slope with one thing leading to the next until just about everything is either severely restricted or illegal. .

< Message edited by lovmuffin -- 3/21/2014 10:31:36 AM >

_____________________________

"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Unknown

"Long hair, short hair—what's the difference once the head's blowed off." - Farmer Yassir

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:23:27 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle558-20100221-07.html

Leads to an interesting history of a dissenting voice.

It's a pretty bizarre source.

(in reply to MercTech)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:35:39 AM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

FR~

It seems to been written with a very specific slant as if we are overly oppressed about our gun ownership and control laws.
It is certainly taken from a very pro-gun ownership perspective.

What the writer obviously missed is the fact that for most of us, we actually prefer our laws to that extreme with regard to firearms being in the hands of the general populace.

And as far as I am concerned your gun laws are your business, shame you aren't as open minded about ours.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to freedomdwarf1)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:36:46 AM   
RottenJohnny


Posts: 1677
Joined: 5/5/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
And you certainly make a good point. I think he makes an implication though that gun control in the US would be a very slippery slope with one thing leading to the next until just about everything is either severely restricted or illegal.

...or British.

_____________________________

"I find your arguments strewn with gaping defects in logic." - Mr. Spock

"Give me liberty or give me death." - Patrick Henry

I believe in common sense, not common opinions. - Me

(in reply to lovmuffin)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:40:06 AM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others.


And you certainly make a good point. I think he makes an implication though that gun control in the US would be a very slippery slope with one thing leading to the next until just about everything is either severely restricted or illegal. .

You know we've had gun control laws since the Constitution was ratified and that hasn't happened right?

(in reply to lovmuffin)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:43:52 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		Slippery Slope is another basic logical fallacy. I just didn't want to get into that with him again.

I understand his position (in the sense of what it is), and we're not going to open his eyes. Fair enough. Nor is his position unique, as it's a basic NRA talking point.

Clarity.

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 10:47:30 AM   
freedomdwarf1


Posts: 6845
Joined: 10/23/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

FR~

It seems to been written with a very specific slant as if we are overly oppressed about our gun ownership and control laws.
It is certainly taken from a very pro-gun ownership perspective.

What the writer obviously missed is the fact that for most of us, we actually prefer our laws to that extreme with regard to firearms being in the hands of the general populace.

And as far as I am concerned your gun laws are your business, shame you aren't as open minded about ours.

We are just as open.
The thing is, we started going through a phase that the US has been living in for the last few decades and we nipped it in the bud before it got out of hand.

(in reply to BamaD)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 11:05:24 AM   
lovmuffin


Posts: 3759
Joined: 9/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others.


And you certainly make a good point. I think he makes an implication though that gun control in the US would be a very slippery slope with one thing leading to the next until just about everything is either severely restricted or illegal. .

You know we've had gun control laws since the Constitution was ratified and that hasn't happened right? Though if they can indoctrinate the masses into believing the 2nd amendment pertains to the national Gaurd or some such shit then we'll start slipping down the road ata faster


It hasn't happened yet because that pesky 2nd amendment has managed to make gun control a much higher mountain to climb than In the UK. Though if they can indoctrinate the masses into believing the 2nd amendment pertains only to the National Gaurd or some other silly shit then we'll start slipping down that slope at a much faster pace.




_____________________________

"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Unknown

"Long hair, short hair—what's the difference once the head's blowed off." - Farmer Yassir

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:07:01 PM   
Phydeaux


Posts: 4828
Joined: 1/4/2004
Status: offline 		Well, since there are numerous brits that feel free to opine that we should have gun control in the US, I think its only about fair that we should have a thread where we Yanks get to come and be rude and obnoxious and insist the brits should immediately institute a policy of mandatory gun ownership.

(in reply to lovmuffin)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:13:56 PM   
lovmuffin


Posts: 3759
Joined: 9/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Well, since there are numerous brits that feel free to opine that we should have gun control in the US, I think its only about fair that we should have a thread where we Yanks get to come and be rude and obnoxious and insist the brits should immediately institute a policy of mandatory gun ownership.


I've said this before on other threads. To quote myself,

Arm The British !!!!!!!!!!!

_____________________________

"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Unknown

"Long hair, short hair—what's the difference once the head's blowed off." - Farmer Yassir

(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:15:41 PM   
PeonForHer


Posts: 19612
Joined: 9/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

. . . there are numerous brits that feel free to opine that we should have gun control in the US . . .


You obviously never absorbed Bama's quote from the SCROTUS when it was one of his taglines, Phydeaux - that one that said that free men own guns, whereas slaves don't. Brits are slaves who, lacking guns as they do, *never* 'feel free'.

_____________________________

http://www.domme-chronicles.com


(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:21:50 PM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

1) This is not a US only board
2) He's not making a recommendation, simply sharing the history.

I'm of the mind we can learn from the experiences of others.


And you certainly make a good point. I think he makes an implication though that gun control in the US would be a very slippery slope with one thing leading to the next until just about everything is either severely restricted or illegal. .

You know we've had gun control laws since the Constitution was ratified and that hasn't happened right? Though if they can indoctrinate the masses into believing the 2nd amendment pertains to the national Gaurd or some such shit then we'll start slipping down the road ata faster


It hasn't happened yet because that pesky 2nd amendment has managed to make gun control a much higher mountain to climb than In the UK. Though if they can indoctrinate the masses into believing the 2nd amendment pertains only to the National Gaurd or some other silly shit then we'll start slipping down that slope at a much faster pace.

Do not try and make my posts say things different than what I wrote. That is against the TOS. Simply admitting you were full of shit would have been the simplest response.

(in reply to lovmuffin)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:25:22 PM   
BamaD


Posts: 20687
Joined: 2/27/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

. . . there are numerous brits that feel free to opine that we should have gun control in the US . . .


You obviously never absorbed Bama's quote from the SCROTUS when it was one of his taglines, Phydeaux - that one that said that free men own guns, whereas slaves don't. Brits are slaves who, lacking guns as they do, *never* 'feel free'.

Never said that, you figured it out all by yourself.

_____________________________

Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

(in reply to PeonForHer)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Gun control in the U.K. - 3/21/2014 2:26:21 PM   
Phydeaux


Posts: 4828
Joined: 1/4/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

. . . there are numerous brits that feel free to opine that we should have gun control in the US . . .


You obviously never absorbed Bama's quote from the SCROTUS when it was one of his taglines, Phydeaux - that one that said that free men own guns, whereas slaves don't. Brits are slaves who, lacking guns as they do, *never* 'feel free'.


Now now. Judging from the British joke

"Whats the only thing wrong with Americans"
"oversexed, overpaid, and over here".


We shouldn't make the scurrilious assumption that they are slaves. Merely that they have small dicks, low pay and are xenophobic.

Perhaps we should send Geraldo over to the BBC just like we were inflicted with Piers...

(in reply to PeonForHer)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Gun control in the U.K. Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.125