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stef -> RE: What is basic health care? If they pay for birth control should they pay for viagra? (4/2/2014 11:44:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SlaveOh

Intelligent people wouldn't compare using birth control to using Viagra. Birth control has many other uses besides preventing pregnancy.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it. I's all about blind adherence to the misguided policies of a morally and socially bankrupt political party.




Kirata -> RE: What is basic health care? If they pay for birth control should they pay for viagra? (4/2/2014 9:10:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

sorry i didnt make a strawman, I merely shared an article from the news as I was catching up last night..

Well, there might be a quibble about calling Mother Jones a "news" source. [:D]

K.





kalikshama -> RE: What is basic health care? If they pay for birth control should they pay for viagra? (4/7/2014 2:46:12 PM)

Thanks, Luce.

Here's more from your link:

Hobby Lobby's Hypocrisy: The Company's Retirement Plan Invests in Contraception Manufacturers

...All nine funds—which have assets of $73 million, or three-quarters of the Hobby Lobby retirement plan's total assets—contained holdings that clashed with the Greens' stated religious principles.

Hobby Lobby and the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, the conservative group that provided Hobby Lobby with legal representation, did not respond to questions about these investments or whether Hobby Lobby has changed its retirement plan.

In their Supreme Court complaint, Hobby Lobby's owners chronicle the many ways in which they avoid entanglements with objectionable companies. Hobby Lobby stores do not sell shot glasses, for example, and the Greens decline requests from beer distributors to back-haul beer on Hobby Lobby trucks.

Similar options exist for companies that want to practice what's sometimes called faith-based investing. To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs—or products such as alcohol or pornography—religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them.




Phydeaux -> RE: What is basic health care? If they pay for birth control should they pay for viagra? (4/7/2014 5:15:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Thanks, Luce.

Here's more from your link:

Hobby Lobby's Hypocrisy: The Company's Retirement Plan Invests in Contraception Manufacturers

...All nine funds—which have assets of $73 million, or three-quarters of the Hobby Lobby retirement plan's total assets—contained holdings that clashed with the Greens' stated religious principles.

Hobby Lobby and the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, the conservative group that provided Hobby Lobby with legal representation, did not respond to questions about these investments or whether Hobby Lobby has changed its retirement plan.

In their Supreme Court complaint, Hobby Lobby's owners chronicle the many ways in which they avoid entanglements with objectionable companies. Hobby Lobby stores do not sell shot glasses, for example, and the Greens decline requests from beer distributors to back-haul beer on Hobby Lobby trucks.

Similar options exist for companies that want to practice what's sometimes called faith-based investing. To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs—or products such as alcohol or pornography—religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them.


Already asked and answered.

This argument is irrelevent to the argument at hand. The defendant has standing, the facts of the case are not in dispute.

Ie., the sole issue is whether Hobby Lobby may assert a religious defense against this govt regulation. Or in otherwords, whether the statue is legit.
It wouldn't matter if Hobby Lobby were ax wielding Satanists at this point.






Exidor -> RE: What is basic health care? If they pay for birth control should they pay for viagra? (4/9/2014 5:01:36 AM)

They problem I have is that somehow pregnancy is now often equated with "disease."




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