LookieNoNookie
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse Back to the original question. I do not worry about it. Not for a second. And that's totally fine, but it becomes an issue when people deny it's happening and stand in the way of action to mitigate it's impacts on human life and on the economy in the years and decades to come. Look, there are a variety of very intelligent people (on both sides of the debate....some funded by global warming wanna bee's, others funded by oil, nuclear, et al) who all have a very specific opinion, and one they want you to share (with them). quote:
Did you know (this is actually verifiable fact, now 50 years later...the oil companies admit it) that nearly all the nuclear 'sit ins" to dissuade the general public's opinions on nuclear energy...were funded by the oil companies? I wonder why that would be? Please clarify, dissuade the public's opinion in favour or against nuclear? Because there's a good few reasons for either. quote:
Did you know that sun spots actually cycle (you know how to use Google...anyone that "demands" links will be shot...you're all intelligent enough to do your own homework) and that we're in a particular cycle that portends a cooling cycle within 3 - 5 years? Yes I do know that there is an 11 year sunspot cycle. Did you know that this cycle isn't long enough for the climate to react fully to a change in insolation, and did you also know we are in the most inactive solar cycle scientists have seen in a very long time? The whole sunspot argument is a moot point when you consider it's actual impacts on climate. quote:
Did you know that all of the chemicals we're now fearful of have been 50% higher (in cooler global temps) than they are today in the past...and the oceans didn't rise? Yes, I did know that. It was to compensate for the fact that the sun in previous time periods was much less luminous than it is today. Different continents and different climate back then. Sea level has risen and fallen numerous times in the past for a variety of reasons, melting and accumulation of glaciers/ice sheets being the major reason, as seen by prehistoric proxy records from coral. quote:
Now....with all that said (and all you crazies foaming at the mouth...take a chill pill....continue reading)....we can do better. This is ACTUALLY the FIRST time these events (specifically known chemicals in the atmosphere) have been THIS high and MOST ASSUREDLY CAUSED by man wherein which not only did WE cause them but WE can actually lower them...and we should. We are the FIRST generation of humans who can actually change this by our actions....and we should. I agree completely quote:
But....global warming is NOT being caused by man (nor is global cooling). It's being caused by our solar system. And here is where you are clearly and completely wrong on the science. Understand what is happening with the sun and then get back to me. Unless you for some reason believe that a planetary alignment is the cause, in which case you should probably go back to school. quote:
[b]We aren't helping.[/b] (And neither, quite frankly, are the alarmists). Let's insulate and stop blaming. Let's drive less and quit insinuating. Let's add solar panels and dry our clothes outside. And let's (all) READ!!!!!!!! (A place I would recommend starting would be.....HISTORY). quote:
History is a good place to start, the history of climate, which requires a wide scope view, not nit picked details. To understand the history of climate you need to understand how climate functions first of all. And you sorely lack that understanding I'm afraid. But on all other points I couldn't agree more Google is your friend.
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