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LookieNoNookie -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 3:02:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The wage gap at 77 cents a woman for every dollar of man has already been factored with more women in lower end of the paying jobs, and their time off for birthing and so on, that is about 60% of the difference. Actually, the last time I read the full damned report from the BLS they said that all but a few percent can be accounted for due to things like "life choices". That still leaves some questions open about why are women making these life choices and men are not but the flat out 77% thing is bunk according to the people who published the number. Horseshit. Ken says so. [8\|] No, I did not. Stop making shit up. No...Ken said so...therefore it is.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 3:06:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie Women make more than men in multiple industries and jobs. Which industries and jobs would those be, then? I thought Hooters paid minimum wage... Ain't that tough: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/women-paid-more-than-men-jobs_n_3110432.html

DaddySatyr -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 3:12:50 PM)
There was also a study, a few years back where ladies that lived in big cities, under thirty years old, who had decided not to have children, made more than their male counter-parts across the board. No one wants to talk about these results, though. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me?

hlen5 -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 4:03:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Gender equivalent jobs is double speak. Men are 96 times more likely to be killed on the job - in things like deep sea fisherman, construction, transportation etc. The market places puts a premium on this risk. Thats why no amount of pointy heads saying "nursing" is gender equivalent to "truck driving" ever holds water. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/08/3424043/gender-wage-gap-myth/ ..........But in virtually every job category tracked by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average woman earns less than the average man. Women only make more in three occupations for which there is adequate data to compare men’s and women’s earnings — they lose out in about 115 others. Even in those low-paid jobs that tend to be dominated by women, such as nurses, teachers, and secretaries, men earn more. And even in male-dominated industries like manufacturing, finance, construction, mining, and agriculture, women earn less.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 4:52:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr There was also a study, a few years back where ladies that lived in big cities, under thirty years old, who had decided not to have children, made more than their male counter-parts across the board. No one wants to talk about these results, though. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? That would of course, be misogynist.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 4:55:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Gender equivalent jobs is double speak. Men are 96 times more likely to be killed on the job - in things like deep sea fisherman, construction, transportation etc. The market places puts a premium on this risk. Thats why no amount of pointy heads saying "nursing" is gender equivalent to "truck driving" ever holds water. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/08/3424043/gender-wage-gap-myth/ ..........But in virtually every job category tracked by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average woman earns less than the average man. Women only make more in three occupations for which there is adequate data to compare men’s and women’s earnings — they lose out in about 115 others. Even in those low-paid jobs that tend to be dominated by women, such as nurses, teachers, and secretaries, men earn more. And even in male-dominated industries like manufacturing, finance, construction, mining, and agriculture, women earn less. Perhaps you missed the key points listed above. Death being a fairly large one, considered in the aggregate %'s, ergo....nyet.

DomKen -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 5:54:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The wage gap at 77 cents a woman for every dollar of man has already been factored with more women in lower end of the paying jobs, and their time off for birthing and so on, that is about 60% of the difference. Actually, the last time I read the full damned report from the BLS they said that all but a few percent can be accounted for due to things like "life choices". That still leaves some questions open about why are women making these life choices and men are not but the flat out 77% thing is bunk according to the people who published the number. Horseshit. Ken says so. [8\|] No, I did not. Stop making shit up. Post #2 quote: What a pile of horseshit. The actual real wage gap* is about women getting paid less than men in the same jobs.* Not only did you call it horseshit, you intimated that there is a very real wage gap. Jeff's comment states that, according to the BLS, there isn't much ("a few percent") that isn't due to life choices. Therein lies your comprehension error, Ken. The only one that made anything up, was you. A few percent isn't significant? Since when? If you were paid a few percent less than some one else throughout your life do you think that might add up?

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 9:06:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The wage gap at 77 cents a woman for every dollar of man has already been factored with more women in lower end of the paying jobs, and their time off for birthing and so on, that is about 60% of the difference. Actually, the last time I read the full damned report from the BLS they said that all but a few percent can be accounted for due to things like "life choices". That still leaves some questions open about why are women making these life choices and men are not but the flat out 77% thing is bunk according to the people who published the number. Horseshit. Ken says so. [8\|] No, I did not. Stop making shit up. Post #2 quote: What a pile of horseshit. The actual real wage gap* is about women getting paid less than men in the same jobs.* Not only did you call it horseshit, you intimated that there is a very real wage gap. Jeff's comment states that, according to the BLS, there isn't much ("a few percent") that isn't due to life choices. Therein lies your comprehension error, Ken. The only one that made anything up, was you. A few percent isn't significant? Since when? If you were paid a few percent less than some one else throughout your life do you think that might add up? Where did I say that a few percent isn't significant?

DomKen -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/9/2014 9:33:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The wage gap at 77 cents a woman for every dollar of man has already been factored with more women in lower end of the paying jobs, and their time off for birthing and so on, that is about 60% of the difference. Actually, the last time I read the full damned report from the BLS they said that all but a few percent can be accounted for due to things like "life choices". That still leaves some questions open about why are women making these life choices and men are not but the flat out 77% thing is bunk according to the people who published the number. Horseshit. Ken says so. [8\|] No, I did not. Stop making shit up. Post #2 quote: What a pile of horseshit. The actual real wage gap* is about women getting paid less than men in the same jobs.* Not only did you call it horseshit, you intimated that there is a very real wage gap. Jeff's comment states that, according to the BLS, there isn't much ("a few percent") that isn't due to life choices. Therein lies your comprehension error, Ken. The only one that made anything up, was you. A few percent isn't significant? Since when? If you were paid a few percent less than some one else throughout your life do you think that might add up? Where did I say that a few percent isn't significant? When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/10/2014 2:20:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap. No, you interpreted it (incorrectly) when I pointed out that Jeff was citing the BLS's report.

DomKen -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/10/2014 2:30:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap. No, you interpreted it (incorrectly) when I pointed out that Jeff was citing the BLS's report. Then there is a real gap and your mocking me is crap, correct? Shouldn't you apologize for being so completely full of shit?

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/10/2014 2:42:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap. No, you interpreted it (incorrectly) when I pointed out that Jeff was citing the BLS's report. Then there is a real gap and your mocking me is crap, correct? Shouldn't you apologize for being so completely full of shit? There is a small gap. I never said there wasn't. My mocking you is spot on perfect, actually. And, since I'm not completely full of shit (my eyes are still blue [8D]), you aren't going to get any apology for that. You said the OP was horseshit, even though the article agreed with Carney's claim. You jumped on me for pointing that out. No apology when you were shown to be wrong. When Jeff posted up the BLS findings, obviously they can't be true because they, too, aligned with what Carney said, which wasn't opposed by the article you claimed was horseshit. So, the only one full of shit, was you. Your feewings from being mocked when you are dead ass wrong, shown to be dead ass wrong, and continue to be dead ass wrong, aren't my concern. Nut up, buttercup.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 1:26:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap. No, you interpreted it (incorrectly) when I pointed out that Jeff was citing the BLS's report. Then there is a real gap and your mocking me is crap, correct? Shouldn't you apologize for being so completely full of shit? There is a small gap. I never said there wasn't. My mocking you is spot on perfect, actually. And, since I'm not completely full of shit (my eyes are still blue [8D]), you aren't going to get any apology for that. You said the OP was horseshit, even though the article agreed with Carney's claim. You jumped on me for pointing that out. No apology when you were shown to be wrong. When Jeff posted up the BLS findings, obviously they can't be true because they, too, aligned with what Carney said, which wasn't opposed by the article you claimed was horseshit. So, the only one full of shit, was you. Your feewings from being mocked when you are dead ass wrong, shown to be dead ass wrong, and continue to be dead ass wrong, aren't my concern. Nut up, buttercup. Hahahahahahahaha. YEAH......Buttercup!!!!!

hlen5 -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 2:29:21 PM)
I thought we were talking about equivalent pay? How does what I posted, specifically about nursing, miss the mark?

DomKen -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 3:14:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen When you implied that a few percent isn't a real gap. No, you interpreted it (incorrectly) when I pointed out that Jeff was citing the BLS's report. Then there is a real gap and your mocking me is crap, correct? Shouldn't you apologize for being so completely full of shit? There is a small gap. I never said there wasn't. My mocking you is spot on perfect, actually. And, since I'm not completely full of shit (my eyes are still blue [8D]), you aren't going to get any apology for that. You said the OP was horseshit, even though the article agreed with Carney's claim. You jumped on me for pointing that out. No apology when you were shown to be wrong. When Jeff posted up the BLS findings, obviously they can't be true because they, too, aligned with what Carney said, which wasn't opposed by the article you claimed was horseshit. So, the only one full of shit, was you. Your feewings from being mocked when you are dead ass wrong, shown to be dead ass wrong, and continue to be dead ass wrong, aren't my concern. Nut up, buttercup. So once again you mocked me for being right? WTF? Is it just your own deep seated feelings of inadequacy showing?

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 3:45:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen So once again you mocked me for being right? WTF? Is it just your own deep seated feelings of inadequacy showing? Nope. You attacked the OP article as bullshit, even though you actually agreed with most of what was in it. That is why you are mocked. I feel no inadequacy here, Ken. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror?

DomKen -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 4:40:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen So once again you mocked me for being right? WTF? Is it just your own deep seated feelings of inadequacy showing? Nope. You attacked the OP article as bullshit, even though you actually agreed with most of what was in it. That is why you are mocked. I feel no inadequacy here, Ken. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror? The article was bullshit. It attacked the White House for daring to take a stand on the wage gap which is real as you admitted. For some unknown reason you chose to mock me for being right and pointing out that the article is full of shit. I called you on it and now you arte whining that you are not full of shit.

MerlynEmrys -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 5:12:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead No, you're the one that needs to do that if you're insisting that the sex industry pays women more than men. I'll give it a shot... From Kink.com MODEL RATES - STUDIO SHOOTS Model pay varies according to content, sexual contact and website, as well as industry experience, but the following rates should give you, a potential model, a general idea of what kind of pay is to be expected when shooting for Kink.com. Pay rate is determined at the time of booking. Female Models Female Models make $500 - $600 in a solo shoot. Female Models make $500 - $800 as a top or bottom as a participant in a girl/girl shoot. Female Models make $600 - $1300 as a top or bottom in a boy/girl shoot. Female Models make $700 - $1100 as a bottom in a TS female/girl shoot. Male Models Male models make $500 as a bottom in a boy/TS female shoot. Male models make $500 as a bottom in a boy/girl shoot. Male models make $800+ as a top or bottom in a boy/boy shoot. Male models make $200 - $400 as a top in a boy/girl shoot. Pay is highly dependent upon experience and performance in this category. Females make 6-1300 bucks for a shoot, men make 2-500 dollars. That is 15-83 cents on the female dollar.

TheHeretic -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/11/2014 8:31:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama Joins today, first post in P&R. Hmm. Tries to destroy the forum with a shrieking bitchy tantrum. Comes right back to snark... Hmm.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White House Says Wage Gender Gap Stats Are Misleading...When Applied to the White House (4/12/2014 6:47:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen So once again you mocked me for being right? WTF? Is it just your own deep seated feelings of inadequacy showing? Nope. You attacked the OP article as bullshit, even though you actually agreed with most of what was in it. That is why you are mocked. I feel no inadequacy here, Ken. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror? The article was bullshit. It attacked the White House for daring to take a stand on the wage gap which is real as you admitted. For some unknown reason you chose to mock me for being right and pointing out that the article is full of shit. I called you on it and now you arte whining that you are not full of shit. I'm not the one whining for an apology, or about being mocked, am I? If course not. You said the article is full of shit. You said Carney and the White House were correct in their explanation. The article said Carney and the White House are correct in their explanation. So, either you're full of shit, too, because the article that is full of shit agreed with you and Carney. But - and this is the point you have failed to miss from the OP to now (and likely to infinity and beyond!) - the point the article made was that the White House and Carney don't use the same metrics when talking about the general gender gap. They use whatever rhetoric and statistics they can to make it look worse than it is. THAT is what the article was pointing out. Inability to comprehend articles and then arguing that their full of shit when they support your own assertions will get you mocked every fucking time. If you can't take the heat, Ken...

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