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Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 10:13:50 AM   
mastergarrett83


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We are a happy newlywed couple seeking a live in slave but having a hard time locating one. Why is it so difficult? She has been in this lifestyle her whole adult life and is a switch. He has only been doing this for a year but is very good at being dominant. Just hoping to find that right slave for us.
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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 10:29:02 AM   
RomanticRebel


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You've been on the site for a day and you're already complaining? Look, what you're looking for is rare. It takes time, dedication, and a LOT of hard work to find a submissive that's right for you. We're not just pieces of meat or brainless dolts that are going to instantly drop everything and do what you say, much less move in with you. We have lives, careers, friends, families, etc.

Also your profile says very little about you as people. What do you do when you're not in BDSM or D/s mode? What do you have to offer? What makes you stand out as a couple?

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 1:10:46 PM   
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I wouldn't bother looking for your unicorn online. Use fetlife to find local BDSM events, join groups, go to munches, and network. You're under 35, so look for TNG groups.

And yes, put vanilla stuff in your profile.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 4:15:25 PM   
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Not to be a party-pooper, but you could be searching high & low for years for the right fit into your household. I know a an older Dom/BiFSwitch couple such as you both are, and they have been seeking a third for several years. A biFslave will communicate with them for a couple months, meet, make plans to relocate and move in, then *poof* she gets cold feet and disappears. What you want is called a unicorn because they are so rare. This couple is in a position to provide for their unicorn so that she does not need outside employment. Can you say the same? It's an attractive incentive. Otherwise, if you expect a live-in femsub to give up her old life, go out and find a new job, work outside the home and then cater to the both of you, then perhaps a reality check is in order. What benefits do you offer other than being your unpaid household servant and providing you with BDSM sex? After all, you want a girl to integrate into your "24/7 lifestyle to meet his [Dom's] needs when she [wife] can not and to meet her [bi Switch wife's] needs as well."

Can you offer health insurance or do you expect her to provide her own coverage? What about the costs of maintaining the insurance or payments on her own vehicle to run errands for you, or will she have access to your vehicle? When does this 24/7 live-in slave get time off for herself and what about spending money (an allowance)? You do state "we will take care of you and that is all you need to know." In what capacity will you take care of her other than room (assuming she will have her own bedroom and not be using what's been set aside for the wife's 2 children when they come visit) & board? What if she wants to further her education or go back to school, how does that factor in? You both work, so what does she do all day long other than clean the house, do laundry, and/or cook meals to make your lives easier--what about hers? Have the two of you really thought this through, in other words, what it truly means to run a poly household as a family dynamic.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 4:54:20 PM   
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You have nothing to offer except free work. You aren't looking for a person, as referenced by your comments about treating her as a slave.

All slaves are not alike. Punishment is the worst way to promote healthy relationships yet its all your profile talks about.

You're very involved with your families. How do you propose to introduce her to your mother?

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 5:02:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mastergarrett83

We are a happy newlywed couple seeking a live in slave but having a hard time locating one. Why is it so difficult? She has been in this lifestyle her whole adult life and is a switch. He has only been doing this for a year but is very good at being dominant. Just hoping to find that right slave for us.


You've got some good advice on this thread. Your profile is mostly focused on the fantasy aspects of having a 24-7 live-in slave. For the reality aspects, you have to think of this as another marriage, with lots of emotional, physical and financial responsibilities on your part. Even then, you have to accept you on the demand side if something where the demand is huge and the supply is tiny, so you are competing for a scarce resource -- this may sound contradictory to what you seek in a "slave," but focus on what you have to give, not on what you want to get. Because if you focus on what you want to get, you are a dime a dozen.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 6:12:11 PM   
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So according to your profile, the woman half of you works so much outside the home to support the male half of you, who does not work, that the male half needs a slave to service him when the woman half is too busy working to support him to have time to tend to his needs. And you aren't being flooded with slave applications. I for one am astonished.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/9/2014 11:52:19 PM   
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This is not a snarky answer, I hope you take it in the helpful spirit it is intended.

Why do YOU think it's hard to find someone? If you can't put yourself in a prospective slave's position and work out all the challenges and concerns they would face in finding a good match, then you have little to no chance of being able to make this work. Empathy and a realistic view are essential in embarking on a tricky relationship dynamic.

Some starting points for you:

-How many single women do you think are looking to be slaves to a couple (I'll give you a hint on that one, very few). How many couples do you think would like another woman? What would make her pick you over the competition?
- Do you think your profile gives her much of an idea of what life would be like? Is it clear what you mean when you say 'treated like a slave should'? Does she have enough information to get an idea of whether she will be doing all the housework, working outside the home, a sex slave, will she be equal in importance to both of you or get no say about decisions? Will she be a part of the family for Christmas and parties or a dirty little secret?
-Can you see how some of those things would be a really big concern for her?
- Is it clear what you mean when you say 'we will take care of you?' How does she know she will be safe and financially provided for with you? How does she know that you've even talked about this, and budgeted to add another person?
- Can she trust that your existing relationship is secure and not full of drama? Is a year long enough to be ready to add another person, especially when you only spend one night a week together?
- Will there be jealousy issues if she's around all the time and your wife isn't?
- What needs does he have that requires another person during the week? Does he struggle to clean the house without help? Is he lonely? Does he just want more BJs? If he is in poor, will the new slave be a carer?

That's just off the top of my head, before I factor in the basics like age ranges, sexuality, matching kinks, being local enough to meet. If you are confused as to why this is difficult, I hope this clears it up for you.

I know, realistically, a profile can't convey all that information which is why people suggest you meet people in real life which will help them get a sense of how you act together and what sort of people you are. But your profile could contain a lot more information.

For me the key points that need clarifying are the way a slave 'should' be treated (some people treat their slave like a princess, others like a skivvy, yet others like a piece of meat, there is no 'should' and she really needs to know which you are) and how you will 'take care of' her - health insurance? room and board? emotional support? career help?

One concern for me, if I were looking, would be the living arrangements. I'd be concerned that as the new slave I'd be effectively displacing the wife - I'd be there all the time, she rarely would. I'd be worried that either there would be major jealousy OR there would be a lot of pressure on me to do all the work to keep the household running and be forgotten every time wifey got home. Now perhaps neither of those are true, but it would put me off unless I was certain the two of you had considered these possibilities and that you both wanted this a lot.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/10/2014 11:14:33 AM   
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FieryOpal & AthenaSurrenders, you are spot on!

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 4/10/2014 6:33:17 PM   
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Opal as usual offers words of wisdom...

I don't think you two have the slightest clue what owning a slave really means...and from my perspective you don't offer much. IF IF I was to entertain a 24/7 live in slave dynamic I would only consider it with the following:

1. Room and board.
2. Monthly stipend
3. Days off (at least two)
4. Paid or helping paying for vacation time.
5. if you're requiring I stay at home and not work then I will require health insurance paid for me.

Should the dynamic not work out I would require at least a 5,000 severance package, 1 year of paid insurance (thank you Obama) and possible assistance in reeducation training.

If I were you two (and I mean this nicely) I'd aim for a little lower. Maybe just try a equal poly dynamic and have some fun with it.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 6/7/2014 6:00:38 PM   
slaveoubliette


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nothing of value is easy to come by. Then maybe it is your selection and culling process that is leaving you without a slave.

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RE: Having a hard time finding a live in - 6/15/2014 5:54:00 PM   
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How long have you been looking?
How long did it take you to get together, from the meeting to courtship to marriage? What makes you think it would be easier to find a third who is compatible enough with both of you to live comfortably than it did for the two of you to establish a relationship?

A big problem with couples looking to expand and find a third is that they seem to have this entitlement complex toward the idea - they want a third, and get frustrated when it involves some time and effort. You want an easy live-in situation, go adopt a puppy. This is a human being you're dealing with, so show your potential some respect.

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