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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

As long as abortion restrictions and bans continue to be rammed through state legislatures and introduced on Capitol Hill, it seems that anti-choice zealots will continue making headlines with their bizarre, scientifically incorrect and downright cruel remarks. Whether they're confusing the basics of female anatomy, making offensive comparisons to historical tragedies, trivializing rape or labeling pro-choice politicians "terrorists," these anti-abortion crusaders – led by a hee-hawing band of actual elected officials – could populate a thousand lists of epically dumb comments. Here's a sampling of the most ill-informed, borderline delusional and flat-out misogynist statements from the so-called "pro-life" movement:

1. Texas State Senator Wendy Davis is a "terrorist" because she filibustered an anti-choice bill.

2. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

3. Who needs abortion when victims of sexual assault can just get "cleaned out" by a rape kit?

4. Women shouldn't terminate pregnancies resulting from rape because it's what God intended.

5. Women shouldn't complain about forced transvaginal ultrasounds, because they've already had sex.

6. "If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted."

7. "Abortion is much more serious than the rape of children by priests."

8. Abortion rights caused the Sandy Hook massacre.

9. Ban abortions because of masturbating fetuses.

10. Abortion is just like the Holocaust.

Context for quotes: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-ten-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-abortion-and-womens-rights-20130715#ixzz2ynPsNL8e

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4. Women shouldn't terminate pregnancies resulting from rape because it's what God intended.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
Understood. Which is why it's only the smallest morsel of a thought. For me, there might be some merit to #4. My own beliefs would definitely affect my decision in that situation. For others, not. I know that.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And which party do you think the pro-lifers usually affiliate with? I think you'll figure it out if you think hard enough

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Not everyone believes in a god, and forcing that kind of stuff on women who don't believe in god goes against their right to freedom from religion, or even women who do believe in god. People have different interpretations of "god's will" and it's not for anyone to decide what that is and isn't, since then they're the ones playing god with other people's lives.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Oh, I think you left one off.

How about Charlie Crist saying to the NY Times

When he was running for the U.S. Senate for the first time in 1998, Crist said in a questionnaire for the Times: "I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion.

Really?

Nice of you to try to portray all the morons on one side of the equation.

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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246

Ergo: Crist can be pro-life in his own personal beliefs, but at the same time he can be pro-choice because he is also an American and believes in the rule of law.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

who said anything about republican or dimocrat?

The sides I was talking about were pro-life and pro-abortion.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And which party do you think the pro-lifers usually affiliate with? I think you'll figure it out if you think hard enough

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Not everyone believes in a god, and forcing that kind of stuff on women who don't believe in god goes against their right to freedom from religion, or even women who do believe in god. People have different interpretations of "god's will" and it's not for anyone to decide what that is and isn't, since then they're the ones playing god with other people's lives.

Yea, my god tells me to smoke pot, do a little meth and, I get my 75 virgins...before I die. Isn't it cool how we can say what our god says ?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Er, What does 'If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted' actually mean, then? No doubt I'm having a stupid moment, but I'm developing a migraine here trying to get my head around it. Could somebody help me out?

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

As long as abortion restrictions and bans continue to be rammed through state legislatures and introduced on Capitol Hill, it seems that anti-choice zealots will continue making headlines with their bizarre, scientifically incorrect and downright cruel remarks. Whether they're confusing the basics of female anatomy, making offensive comparisons to historical tragedies, trivializing rape or labeling pro-choice politicians "terrorists," these anti-abortion crusaders – led by a hee-hawing band of actual elected officials – could populate a thousand lists of epically dumb comments. Here's a sampling of the most ill-informed, borderline delusional and flat-out misogynist statements from the so-called "pro-life" movement:

1. Texas State Senator Wendy Davis is a "terrorist" because she filibustered an anti-choice bill.

2. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

3. Who needs abortion when victims of sexual assault can just get "cleaned out" by a rape kit?

4. Women shouldn't terminate pregnancies resulting from rape because it's what God intended.

5. Women shouldn't complain about forced transvaginal ultrasounds, because they've already had sex.

6. "If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted."

7. "Abortion is much more serious than the rape of children by priests."

8. Abortion rights caused the Sandy Hook massacre.

9. Ban abortions because of masturbating fetuses.

10. Abortion is just like the Holocaust.

Context for quotes: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-ten-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-abortion-and-womens-rights-20130715#ixzz2ynPsNL8e

As a Republican (and most of these were, in fact, actually said by Republicans, or "Conservatives"....not all.....but most) I have to say....stupid people exist. Everywhere.

Please don't pin these on some fixed group just because someone assigns themselves to same (although, I have to say....I suspect #9 was likely said while someone was likely taking Chantrix, attempting to quit smoking).

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And which party do you think the pro-lifers usually affiliate with? I think you'll figure it out if you think hard enough

I think that would be the religious ones which covers both sides of the political spectrum. I also know there are some atheists out there who are also against it and that would also cover both sides of the political spectrum. Now the right may be more vocal about it, but don't kid yourself that there aren't a shitload of liberals who don't think abortion is right. Personally I think it is wrong but I also don't think it is my choice to make for anyone but myself. It has nothing to do with politics and I don't understand why people are so quick to label something by party.

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ORIGINAL: njlauren
It is a perverted use of the contra positive proof. What they are saying is that if fetuses had guns, they wouldn't need anyone to ban abortion, they would do it themselves; since fetuses obviously cannot/don't have guns, they can't protect themselves, so therefore everyone else should be protecting them. It is an idiotic way of saying an adult human can protect themselves, a 'fetus human' cannot, so we have to help them..