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metamorfosis -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (4/29/2014 9:05:05 AM)

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Bound4you1960 -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (4/29/2014 10:28:06 AM)

I think you'll get a different answer for every guy out there. And I know guys who are in committed relationships and happy. I don't think they're on Collar Me though.

Personally, I want to wake up and find myself committed to someone. I'd like to see it happen without trying to make it happen.

When I've tried to make it happen, I've always settled for less than I deserve.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (4/29/2014 2:37:10 PM)

For me, there has never been a problem with commitment. I would prefer to be in an ongoing relationship. That said:

I think young men's "fear" or "lack of wanting to" when it comes to commitment comes down a lot to a whole lot of factors that were not present when I was a young'n (yep...back when we drove gas-guzzling hot rods to school). For those young men who go to college, many of them come out of school to face a world where obtaining a job is not as easy as it was then. There were often many companies lined up to hire graduates with certain degrees. Fewer degrees, more positions vs today where there are more degrees with fewer opportunities to use them. This creates an uncertainty about the future. Add in college loan debt that has to be paid off and you add more uncertainty. Another factor: there is a plethora of social sites and much less in-person socializing that goes on nowadays. I've noted that many people, older as well as younger though not so much the case with older folks, devote an awful lot of time to these social sites. Hard to meet a girl and carry on a "courtship" when your time is spent trying to meet an elusive computer girl. Add in video games and other internet wonders and a person can get sucked into what is easy AND satisfying and stands little chance of denting your ego. Another factor: the insecurities that seem to come about when what they have been taught in school matches up to what they find in the real world. My own kids were taught that it is...for the most part...about them and their "wonderful" uniqueness. My daughter damn near cried on my shoulder after her first two weeks in a real job: Dad, I don't know if I'm going to get fired. Why is that, honey? Because the boss hasn't told me I am doing a great job...not even a "good job, Nicole". Did she call you into her office and yell at you? No. Did she pay you this week? Yes. Welcome to the real world, honey...where they expect you to do the job you are paid to do and won't spend their precious job time stroking your ego. Put that "wonderfully unique" attitude to work when you are finally trying to date and how many give up when a girl first rejects them? How many do not give up but get cynical and/or leery? Finally, look at how society has reshaped roles. Even back in my day, women were being told that they could be "all they could be" but somehow, society kind of expected everyone...men and women...to find someone they could commit to. That attitude does not seem to exist as much and it has made it easier in some ways for people to not feel forced to "pick someone just to satisfy Mom, Dad, family, employers, etc.. It does, on the other hand, make it harder to find that one who does want to commit.

Now add in things like internet porn where the woman does what the guy wants, T.V. shows where the most women-successful men appear to be those that come across as dunces/wusses to many men out here on this side of the screen, etc. and you find young men who find it hard to want to give up their lives...no matter how stilted they might seem to some...to commitment.




FieryOpal -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (4/29/2014 2:51:10 PM)

Then what's with all these young guys (some barely looking 18-20) who want to be insta-slaves to some woman on the Internet they've never met? Not just here in America, but from across the globe? (without asking for any money to relocate them, many of whom are Europeans not necessarily looking for a green card)

Who in their right mind wants to make an instant commitment, the reverse of this non-commitment issue? Why such extremes in attitudes, with males? Unless you think this is peculiar to the slave mindset irrespective of gender.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (4/29/2014 2:54:26 PM)

I think that some of the insta-slaves...and I could be wrong since I am not a Female Dominant...could be seeking the security that comes with being "owned". They're going from one "woman's" house to another.




vgotx -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/2/2014 11:52:44 PM)

Men don't like to commit because they are afraid that if they do the woman will cut her hair short:)




DaddySatyr -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 12:34:28 AM)


The quote below kind of sparked something in me. I skimmed through the entire thread to see if anyone else had brought it up and I didn't notice it so ... here goes:



quote:

ORIGINAL: vgotx

Men don't like to commit because they are afraid that if they do the woman will cut her hair short:)



That sort of may be the answer!

What hasn't been touched upon here is that it is not just men who are "afraid" (I think that word presupposes facts not in evidence) to commit. While ladies don't tend to stray in the same numbers as men but it does happen.

Even when that isn't the case, I have seen quite a few times where ladies haven't actually "strayed" but they are accepting CVs and doing interviews with replacements for when they get ready to drop the axe, themselves.

Also, there's a whole "dance" done by a lot of people when first exploring relationships where they "put their best foot forward". To my mind, that's a form of dishonesty; it puts out a façade that misleads the other person.

In the "getting to know you" process, new information is being brought to light and some of this information may seriously change the vista of the relationship future.







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




FightingChains -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 1:49:09 AM)

It's interesting now thinking about this...

I've always had a problem with committing. From my first relationship, I've always been afraid of committing. I mean, I've stuck around in a monogamous relationship with the person I love for 5 years. I wanted to stay, and it's been great, and I never foresee leaving.

But for me, it's the fear of "what ifs":
What if I am not the right guy for my partner?
What if this isn't the right relationship for me after all?
What if I promise something I cannot, or should not, give?

Part of me considers this actually very honourable. I can't promise something like that, committing to something I honestly cannot know if it's in the best interests of myself and my partner.

Even more so when I know I'm a guy who needs to be a human punching bag and suffer torture without enjoying pain like most masochists would. I'm not sure if my partner will ever be truly comfortable making my life a living hell. I worry that I might not be the right man in the longer term, no matter how much we explore his sadism for the short term. Not to even mention my strong streak of sadism that scares the damned hell out of him, and we haven't even touched yet.

People tell me that it's always a possibility, just get a divorce, but then why make a commitment I cannot be certain I can keep, locking myself into a relationship with a very complicated and lengthy "get out" clause, when I can show how much I love and appreciate my partner by staying, supporting, every minute of every day, without a piece of paper and a ceremony to say I'm tied at the hip whether I like it or not?

Sorry for the rant, but it's a hard one for me.




angelikaJ -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 9:18:51 AM)

I think young guys who state that they don't want to commit are being realistic.
Committment typically leads to marriage and when you are young, you don't really know who you are, never mind knowing what you want. Deciding on a life partner then doesn't seem the wisest choice.

Marrying young generally doesn't work out well and leads to complications such as pregnancy and subsequently babies.
Most young people can barely take care of themselves, never mind the added expenses of babies and children, the stress of which can make relationships between young and probably immature people unsustainable.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 9:24:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I think that some of the insta-slaves...and I could be wrong since I am not a Female Dominant...could be seeking the security that comes with being "owned". They're going from one "woman's" house to another.

LOL! There are more than a few insta-Doms on here looking for the very same "security". With blow jobs on demand thrown in [:D]




RockaRolla -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 10:53:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Especially the young ones.


There's your answer.

Maybe they want to have fun but aren't ready for anything more serious. There's nothing wrong with that.




BecomingV -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 12:06:34 PM)

Define, "commit." To a Poly family in BDSM, or to a vanilla, "open marriage" couple, the word, "commit" is going to vary in meaning, except for a common denominator of honest, transparent and respectful communication.

quote:

ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Especially the young ones. I see guys say they don't want anything serious. What does that mean? They don't want love? Is it just their way of controlling the relationship? Is it totally just sex they want? When they want?

I just feel it looks kinda tacky in profile, posts, ect. It's like asking for something you value less before it even begins. Or is sex more valued than a deep relationship?

Any thoughts?





People are unique in what they value and in what they perceive to be a "deep relationship."

There are ways of appreciating the honesty of others without thinking them "tacky" for choosing differently than you. (you, meaning, anyone)




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 12:27:17 PM)

-fr

I don't think it's even an issue of age or desire for sex-only relationships. I think it is about whether the people are right for each other. Not "the one", but maybe one of those few "ones". From what I've seen, finding the right person tends to wash away all those concerns about commitment. And people who are reluctant to commit are, I believe, right to be wary so they don't end up trapped in a situation not right for them.




DesFIP -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 3:35:48 PM)

There's something else that hasn't been discussed. Men and women don't commit because their parents did not commit to them.
How many of you know of families where the father left, didn't pay child support, didn't stay in contact with the kids, got new apartments without a space for the kids to stay?

No role model for commitment, only for abandonment.




Musicmystery -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 4:56:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Especially the young ones.

There's your answer. They're young.




PeonForHer -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 4:57:13 PM)

FR

I think men don't want to commit because a part of them, these days, asks 'Why would I want to commit? How will it be good for me?' - and that part keeps on getting no answer.

Why would it be good for us to commit? Why would it be good for us to have the things that go along with this 'commitment'? If those women who wanted us to commit were to make a plausible case for why it would be good *for us* to commit, I do think it would help, somewhat.

Please, please, if any woman here wants to make such a case, *don't* fall into the trap of saying anything that looks like 'that's what it's natural for men to do - that's what they're made for'. Some of us men have learned enough from feminism to transpose the essential principles onto our own lives and thereby know what a crock of old shit that really is.





Peanutcrusher -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 5:04:32 PM)

Getting married and committing for men is generally a raw deal so more and more are simply walking away from it. It's not worn the hassle from what I am hearing.

Bias custody laws, alomony, lose half the stuff in the divorce, it's just not worth it for men.




smileforme50 -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 5:38:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: vgotx

Men don't like to commit because they are afraid that if they do the woman will cut her hair short:)



[sm=rofl.gif]

That is SO true....




smileforme50 -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 5:49:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Peanutcrusher

Getting married and committing for men is generally a raw deal so more and more are simply walking away from it. It's not worn the hassle from what I am hearing.

Bias custody laws, alomony, lose half the stuff in the divorce, it's just not worth it for men.


That's something that is definitely changing. I have 3 female friends who pay spousal support because their deadbeat exes can't find decent jobs.




DesFIP -> RE: Why do guys not like to commit? (6/3/2014 6:34:57 PM)

After divorce the income of most men goes up. Women are by far more likely to be pushed into poverty. Alimony is almost never awarded. Child support is 17% divided among all children.




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