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Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH wider... - 4/27/2014 10:53:10 AM   
Pyramus


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Since I'm married, the only "sex" I get is from porn, and certainly the only *kinky* sex I get is from porn, but, while categorizing the porn on the net which appealed to me, I noticed something interesting which I wish to ask whether it's common to others.

Taking just *fetish* activities, a much larger number of activities appeal to me in the audiovisual realm (i.e., mental porn) than in reality.

For example, watching someone being caned, actually appeals to me, even though I have never myself caned anyone.
Likewise, seeing a naked guy dominated by a dozen clothed women (aka CFNM) actually appeals to me, even though I, myself, can't imagine a single situation in my life where that would ever occur.

Moving on even to the (perhaps more disturbing) realm of bisexual D/s play, again, even though I, myself have never considered myself bisexual, watching a woman dominate another woman or even (heaven forbid) a guy forcing another guy to do his bidding, somehow, appeals to my mental sexual stimulatory neurons.

I realize what I'm saying is hard even for me, an adult male of no young years, to fathom, and even harder for my feeble vocabulary to accurately describe, but, what it all seems to boil down to (I think?) is that mental stimulation, for me, somehow, oddly, has a MUCH WIDER FETISH SCOPE than reality ever would (or could).

Is this real-vs-imaginary fetish gap similar with you?
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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 11:23:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pyramus

Since I'm married in an unfulfilling marriage, the only "sex" I get is from porn

First, I hope you don't mind that I took liberties to clarify the reason you aren't having sex.
To blame it simply on the fact that you're married gives the millions of happy, healthy, sex-positive marriages a bad rap.

And yes, many people find themselves being sexually aroused by images or actions they have no desire to participate in.
I think porn is great for that actually, as it keeps you safely planted in from of your television set, and not somewhere
in the midst of all the action, where you might feel somewhat uncomfortable.

What's really weird, for me at least, is no matter how excited I might be, and regardless of whether it's a simple act of
lovemaking, if the woman looks at the camera, or says something cliche, it's a huge turn off. Weird, huh?

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 11:49:34 AM   
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Can I clarify why you feel male on male or female on female sex is disturbing?

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 12:03:28 PM   
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I'll second what Poise said about marriage. Marriage isn't the blame for a sexless relationship.

I have a few fantasies that are kept as fantasy only but for most fantasies I had/have, I never say never. Some things I love doing today, if I was asked 10, 20, 30 years ago about these things I would say they were just fantasy and I couldn't imagine me engaging in them in real life but over time, they've become reality. I have a lively, kinky, vivid imagination that Master loves. Every few weeks he tells me to write him an erotica story about one of my fantasies of something we have not done, some we play out, some we are still sitting on fence with, a few need to be kept as fantasy only.


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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 1:42:04 PM   
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Lol at being married and sex part, true true. It does die down a little but only the majority of married people in vanilla relationships would agree.

At the porn fantasy part, adult film is bigger then Hollywood and Bollywood, so don't feel weird or think it's strange.

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 4:09:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: poise
To blame it simply on the fact that you're married gives the millions of happy, healthy, sex-positive marriages a bad rap.

I don't disagree. The key point there is that kink in "this" marriage, is impossible. I had thought I could change her, maybe a decade or more ago, but, I was overly confident. It can't be done. At this point, for the past decade, we haven't even lived together and never have sex, let alone kinky sex (although, to her, kink would be a blowjob and even that is stretching her fetish limits).
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ORIGINAL: poise
And yes, many people find themselves being sexually aroused by images or actions they have no desire to participate in.
I think porn is great for that actually, as it keeps you safely planted in from of your television set, and not somewhere
in the midst of all the action, where you might feel somewhat uncomfortable.

Nothing to disagree with here.
My married friend has a joke, where he says, over a drink, "Every time I masturbate, I save $200".
Yet, what's odd to me is the strange sensation that some fetish porn that I'd never personally do, is still arousing to me.
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ORIGINAL: poise
if the woman looks at the camera, or says something cliche, it's a huge turn off. Weird, huh?

I understand. Whenever I hear the fake ooohs an aaahs, it turns me off. Likewise with the soft caning, that leaves no marks, yet, she's screaming away. Badly faked porn isn't erotic.

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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali
Can I clarify why you feel male on male or female on female sex is disturbing?

Good thought question. It's not just that example that is disturbing, yet, erotic at the same time.
For example, I really enjoy watching films of brutal sex, or forced sex, or anal fisting, yet, I can't imagine doing any of that, in the real world, with someone who didn't enjoy it. Yet, the films eroticism hinges, in part, on the 'forced' aspect of the theme. In a different but similar vein, I don't consider myself all that submissive or drawn to the same sex, yet, when I see femdom pussy licking, I actually enjoy watching it, especially if the lady is aloof (for some odd reason). In the real world, I thoroughly enjoy pleasing a woman, but, generally in a different context.
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ORIGINAL: InHisHeart
Marriage isn't the blame for a sexless relationship.

Oh, it's way more complicated than that. If you've never been in these shoes, you'd never understand. In fact, had I not myself been in these shoes for a decade, I certainly couldn't comprehend the situation myself. I once thought I could change anyone, but, if someone has absolutely no desire for sex alone, let alone kinky sex, even I can't change that. No matter how confident I went in, I am now realizing you can't change the motion of the ocean, no matter how hard you try. If you keep fighting, you drown. Which is what happened sexually here. You can't try too hard to change someone. If they're not kinky, you can't make them kinky, which I didn't know going in. Also, if they have absolutely no desire for sex (even vanilla sex), you can never give them that desire. This, I know, but, that I didn't know going in. You may as well try to change the tides.
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ORIGINAL: InHisHeart
a few need to be kept as fantasy only

You hit the nail on the head there!
Some of these surprisingly erotic fantasies, must, by their very nature, be kept fantasies.
What's odd, to me, is that they exist in my mind.
I really am surprised at myself for even enjoying them.
I grew up in a very Catholic world - and - well - in the terms of yesteryear, my thoughts are sinful, to say the least.
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ORIGINAL: imtempting
the majority of married people in vanilla relationships would agree.

I think "my" issues with sex have nothing to do with marriage, per se.
People who have absolutely no desire for sex exist. Trust me on that. I, myself, can't comprehend it. But I've seen it with my own eyes. I can't even fathom how people can go a week without sexual thoughts, let alone a day - but they do exist. There is at least one person out there who, it seems, can go her entire life without sex, and never miss a moment. The Aspergers effects other things, some good, some bad - but it is what it is. My mistake was in being overconfident when I was young and thinking I could change the tides. You can't. At least "I" can't. I gave up trying to change the tides years ago.
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ORIGINAL: imtempting
At the porn fantasy part, adult film is bigger then Hollywood and Bollywood, so don't feel weird or think it's strange.

Thanks. I does seem strange to enjoy watching a guy being forced to suck another guy. To enjoy seeing a girl wince when a ten pounder is shoved up her ass. To quicken my pulse when a nicely bound pet is led on a leash and forced to rim someone.
I do notice that I gravitate to videos where either the men are more like I am, or where the women are more like those I like.
For example, going to any porn cornocopia to type in "mature kinky sex", I find just the type of mature woman I like. Similarly, I type in "large cock bdsm" or something like that, and I find men in the videos where I can identify with as I substitute myself in their place.

I just realized, in writing that last statement, that, I think, *warning ... epiphany* ... I think what 'bothers' me, is that I instinctively insert myself in the place of the guy in the video. Therefore, it is "I" who is enjoying that blindfolded mature gal's lovingly forced blowjob, with swallow (a critical keyword I never omit!). Or, it is "I" who is caning that lovely squirming reddening set of cheeks.

So, maybe, ... just maybe ... I'm bothered by the fact that I am "doing" these things (in my mind). ??? ??? ??? maybe ??? ??? ???
And you?

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 8:44:51 PM   
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This is very common. There are people who read dinosaur porn, but have no real desire to be catapulted back in time and really get it on with a dinosaur. Tentacle porn has been around for decades yet I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone buying a live octopus for this purpose.

What it boils down to is that the biggest sex organ is the brain. Stimulate that in the right way and the body comes along for the ride.

I imagine that your attempts to force your wife to be kinky is partly to blame for her loss of libido btw. Being told you aren't good enough and have to be and do things that aren't authentic to you would turn anyone off.

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/27/2014 11:06:00 PM   
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I'll give you credit for being honest. I was just talking to a male sub friend yesterday who had dared me to say what I had said to him on the next Ass Worship thread that comes up. I suggested that he start his own thread, seeing as to what a monumental ass fetish he has. (But not for monumental asses--he actually goes for skinny asses--go figure.) He refused to do it. I accused him of trying to protect the reputation of his USER NAME, despite its anonymity! WTF.

With one hand I give, but with the other hand I take. You have only yourself to man up to when it comes to staying in a sexless, and possibly loveless, marriage. Eventually your porn-watching indulgence will become an addiction, if it hasn't already. A small fix won't be enough to sustain your arousal level. You're already craving bigger and bigger fixes, the more outlandish, the better. Is this fair to any potential partner you may find in the imminent future? Just like a fetish for big boobs, soon only grossly artificially bloated, mutated-looking ones that hang down to a woman's belly will be able to give you wood. I once knew someone who started watching porn featuring ridiculously fake 4-5 inch nipples, and prosthetic double cocks performing dual penetration. Now, how realistic is that, and where would you ever find this in real life? Such are the dangers of having a porn fetish-addiction.

To answer your question, I don't get anything out of watching porn. The hard-core kind I've seen in the past bores me. I tend to be critical of the "acting," the flimsy plots or premises under which these sexual activities are taking place, and...if the dude isn't my type of sexy hunk (not that he would have to be in actuality, just so he's not unattractive), it doesn't turn me on in the slightest. If I don't like how his dick looks, I won't get turned on. The hottest fantasies I have are reality-based.

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/28/2014 2:28:36 AM   
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So my situation is quite juxtaposed to yours. My slave, my wife, is my sex object and she has violated the laws of nature and man with me. She is my sexual comrade, my partner in sin . . . and she likes girls and some of that TOS stuff as much as I do. So we don't really have a real-vs-imaginary fetish gap.

My scope nowadays is identical to my educated preferences.

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RE: Does your "fetish scope" also seem MUCH w... - 4/28/2014 8:56:56 AM   
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No, the opposite actually. I enjoy a wide range of sexual and kinky activities - but the only porn I ever search for is anal. Lots of things feel nice to do, but it doesn't excite me to look at other people doing them.

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