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Kirata -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/3/2014 8:49:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

A shepard or Shepard knows that if you fail to tend to your flock, given enough time your flock is going to disperse.

That may be, but the more important thing for the sheep is what shepherds know. [:D]

K.









BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/3/2014 9:59:59 PM)

Misspelling words is an addiction.




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/3/2014 10:05:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Misspelling words is an addiction.


If you lapse once, it is likely you will soon lapse again.




chatterbox24 -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 4:04:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Entrophy or entropy?


I misspelled it earlier. It is spelled without the h. It is spelled entropy.

A shepard or Shepard knows that if you fail to tend to your flock, given enough time your flock is going to disperse. Entropy will take hold. The same is true for a gardener. It is also true for business and it is true for government. It is a fact of life. If you give up much as the atheists say you should and just live your life, entropy will take over.

What did King Henry VIII want? He wanted the right to divorce, but what did that give us? After several centuries of neglect marriage as an institution has fallen apart. It took awhile, long enough for the Protestants to think that no harm was done.


How odd. Entrophy/Entropy, I could have sworn you spelled it entropy the first time. This isn't even a word I use, and looked it up to know the full meaning and I spelled it Entropy as posted. Hmmmmmmmm. Maybe I should have my eyes checked.

Left unattended, sheep can get in a lot of trouble. What did Mick Jaguar sing? You don't always get what you want, but you get what you need.

I am still thinking of getting my eyes checked, with that said, I am inspired to write out this nursery rhyme.

Black sheep, black sheep have you any wool?
Yes Sir, yes sir, three bags full.
One for the master, one for the dame.
And one for the little boy who lives down the lane.




GotSteel -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 1:32:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Well yes, I get that, of course one needs to use their brain. Be careful of hunches. Of course they can be wrong.


So how could you use your brain to gain a more accurate idea of whether BM is "super smart"?




GotSteel -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 1:45:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I have a beautiful example of correlations through faith in God.
GS you posted two objects a round stone and a feather. Within hours I recieved a phone call. It was from the counsil of indian nations wanting a donation toward impovished elders and poor water quality and supply. The emblem they use is a round symbol with a feather on top. I have never recieved a call from any indian organization before. Coincidence? Some will say yes, but not for me. Its proof.



Excellent, Gary the Unicorn has finally sent you a sign that I'm a true Profit. Welcome to Atheism!




Kirata -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 2:10:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Excellent, Gary the Unicorn has finally sent you a sign that I'm a true Profit. Welcome to Atheism!

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events as meaningfully related, where they are unlikely to be causally related... Following discussions with both Albert Einstein and Wolfgang Pauli, Jung believed... that life was not a series of random events but rather an expression of a deeper order, which he and Pauli referred to as Unus mundus... It has been asserted that Jung's analytical psychological theory of synchronicity is equal to intellectual intuition ~Source

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. ~Albert Einstein

K.




chatterbox24 -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 2:24:53 PM)

You ought to see this unicorn. I yi yi. His name is not Gary. Lol. Ok now I'm just having fun but GS you are so stubborn!
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I have a beautiful example of correlations through faith in God.
GS you posted two objects a round stone and a feather. Within hours I recieved a phone call. It was from the counsil of indian nations wanting a donation toward impovished elders and poor water quality and supply. The emblem they use is a round symbol with a feather on top. I have never recieved a call from any indian organization before. Coincidence? Some will say yes, but not for me. Its proof.



Excellent, Gary the Unicorn has finally sent you a sign that I'm a true Profit. Welcome to Atheism!





chatterbox24 -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 2:26:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Excellent, Gary the Unicorn has finally sent you a sign that I'm a true Profit. Welcome to Atheism!

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events as meaningfully related, where they are unlikely to be causally related... Following discussions with both Albert Einstein and Wolfgang Pauli, Jung believed... that life was not a series of random events but rather an expression of a deeper order, which he and Pauli referred to as Unus mundus... It has been asserted that Jung's analytical psychological theory of synchronicity is equal to intellectual intuition ~Source

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. ~Albert Einstein

K.


Oh I like that post Kirata




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 6:06:46 PM)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Higgs#Political_and_religious_views

Higgs is an atheist. He has described Richard Dawkins as having adopted a “fundamentalist” view of non-atheists, (although Higgs had said that Dawkins in a way is almost a fundamentalist himself).




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 6:26:43 PM)

Since this thread is about what the atheists get right and atheists feel that biology is their subject it makes sense to ask some questions about biology.

Unsolved Problems in Biology/Protein folding
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unsolved_Problems_in_Biology/Protein_folding

What can you tell me about protein folding. What makes protein folding so important?




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 6:31:22 PM)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins#Advocacy_of_atheism

Dawkins is an outspoken atheist and a supporter of various atheist, secular, and humanistic organisations. Although he was confirmed into the Church of England at the age of thirteen, he started to lose his religious faith when he discovered Darwin. He revealed that his understanding of evolution led him to atheism and is puzzled by belief in God among individuals who are sophisticated in science.




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 6:36:06 PM)

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http://www.nature.com/horizon/proteinfolding/background/importance.html

What is remarkable is that the more than 100,000 proteins in our bodies are produced from a set of only 20 building blocks, known as amino acids.


Biology has the flexibility of a computer in that it can simulate anything within limits; hence, biological processes in some respect mimic computers.




Tkman117 -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 7:29:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Since this thread is about what the atheists get right and atheists feel that biology is their subject it makes sense to ask some questions about biology.

Unsolved Problems in Biology/Protein folding
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unsolved_Problems_in_Biology/Protein_folding

What can you tell me about protein folding. What makes protein folding so important?


I could have asked Galileo why staring at Jupiter through a telescope was so important. Then a few decades later our whole view on the way the world works was flipped on it's had as we went from an earth centric view to a helio centric view. Science is advanced in ways we don't always expect, and to suggest that just because we don't know something means it's god's work is essentially saying that god is an ever shrinking cloud of ignorance. As more is understood about the world, less can be attributed to god. Hell, we just found the Higgs Boson, so claiming that god "is the source of mass" has been debunked. And other, similar claims will go the same way over time. Just because we don't understand something today, doesn't mean we won't understand it tomorrow, and to assume we won't is the disrespect he progress humans have made already.




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/4/2014 7:54:52 PM)

The question was not rhetorical.




BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/5/2014 12:37:40 AM)

Yes, the sciences are filled with atheists. Just look at what the atheists have created.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/14/higgs-boson-publish-or-perish-science-culture

The policy makers are a product of their university system.




Kirata -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/5/2014 12:49:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

we just found the Higgs Boson, so claiming that god "is the source of mass" has been debunked. And other, similar claims will go the same way over time.

Well good. I'm sick and tired of hearing preachers claim that God "is the source of mass." On the other hand, even someone who's not a Creationist might point out that the question remains, what is the source of the Higgs boson? You do realize that we have no idea how any of this got started, right? Assuming the Big Bang theory is correct, where did that singularity come from? Science will solve everything in time? I mean, I have no problem with you pointing out that people make claims about things they can't possibly know. But it's a trifle odd when it's coming from someone who's doing the same thing.

K.





BenevolentM -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/5/2014 1:13:12 AM)

If biology is programmable matter, why does such matter exist? Who is the programmer and what problem is it supposed to solve?

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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http://www.nature.com/horizon/proteinfolding/background/importance.html

What is remarkable is that the more than 100,000 proteins in our bodies are produced from a set of only 20 building blocks, known as amino acids.


Biology has the flexibility of a computer in that it can simulate anything within limits; hence, biological processes in some respect mimic computers.




DaddySatyr -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/5/2014 1:23:30 AM)

But God is the source of Mass; at least the Latin Rite. I'm not sure about this new English vulgate crap.







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epiphiny43 -> RE: What do the atheists get right? (5/5/2014 1:27:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Since this thread is about what the atheists get right and atheists feel that biology is their subject it makes sense to ask some questions about biology.

Unsolved Problems in Biology/Protein folding
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unsolved_Problems_in_Biology/Protein_folding

What can you tell me about protein folding. What makes protein folding so important?

You were SOOOO close.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_folding (Why do I have to keep answering questions with the most obvious of ways, simple referral to wikipedia?)
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Protein folding is the process by which a protein structure assumes its functional shape or conformation. It is the physical process by which a polypeptide folds into its characteristic and functional three-dimensional structure from random coil.[1] Each protein exists as an unfolded polypeptide or random coil when translated from a sequence of mRNA to a linear chain of amino acids. This polypeptide lacks any stable (long-lasting) three-dimensional structure (the left hand side of the first figure). Amino acids interact with each other to produce a well-defined three-dimensional structure, the folded protein (the right hand side of the figure), known as the native state. The resulting three-dimensional structure is determined by the amino acid sequence (Anfinsen's dogma).[2] Experiments [3] beginning in the 1980s indicate the codon for an amino acid can also influence protein structure.

The correct three-dimensional structure is essential to function, although some parts of functional proteins may remain unfolded.[4] Failure to fold into native structure generally produces inactive proteins, but in some instances misfolded proteins have modified or toxic functionality. Several neurodegenerative and other diseases are believed to result from the accumulation of amyloid fibrils formed by misfolded proteins.[5] Many allergies are caused by incorrect folding of some proteins, for the immune system does not produce antibodies for certain protein structures.[6]"


Current advances in computer prediction of protein folding have greatly shortened discovery and development time and need for testing of both antibiotics and of catalysts for improving and detoxifying a large number of industrial and chemical processes. And a hell of a lot more.




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