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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 12:50:40 PM   
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in another threat I linked accidental gun DEATHS for you...

Since that was in another thread, I'll fill in the blank here. But first, there is disagreement over what deaths to include. Some people consider 18-year olds to be "children" for the purposes of firearms statistics, and "adults" for the purposes of seducing their vote. Let's not play that hypocritical game. The CDC sets the cutoff at age 14 for its compilation of unintentional firearms deaths among children, and the latest data I have at my fingertips shows that the national total for 2010 was 62.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 12:52:56 PM   
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You can easily see that by doing the fucking math yourself that one is a lifetime figure and the other is per year.

Okay, okay, I was wrong. You failed both math and English.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 12:57:42 PM   
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One in a million works out to 4.5 a year.

Well that's amazing, because a little while ago it was 81 a year.

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1 in one million means 81 will die...

This would be a good time to reflect on The First Law of Holes.

K.




and 80 does not equal thousands.

Maybe the idea of addition over time needs to be explained to you?

To reach thousands would take over 2 decades for guns 2 years for swimming pools whats the real threat.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 2:32:45 PM   
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One in a million works out to 4.5 a year.

Well that's amazing, because a little while ago it was 81 a year.

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1 in one million means 81 will die...

This would be a good time to reflect on The First Law of Holes.

K.




and 80 does not equal thousands.

Maybe the idea of addition over time needs to be explained to you?

To reach thousands would take over 2 decades for guns 2 years for swimming pools whats the real threat.

So? Does that change the fact that thousands of children will die from gun accidents?

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 2:34:40 PM   
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You can easily see that by doing the fucking math yourself that one is a lifetime figure and the other is per year.

Okay, okay, I was wrong. You failed both math and English.

Only in your fever dreams dumbass. Now just own the fact that you were full of shit and run away like a good coward troll.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 2:36:40 PM   
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To reach thousands would take over 2 decades for guns 2 years for swimming pools whats the real threat.

I'm just gonna say this right now...
If anyone tries to take my pool away from me I'm gonna go on a drowning spree.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 2:39:21 PM   
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Source

Notice how this source proves you are a liar?

Let me help you out
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FIREARM DEATHS AND DEATH RATES AMONG CHILDREN AGES 1-14: 1999-2010





Crude Rate Per 100,000







0.7

Now why isn't that 0.1 like you claimed? Perhaps because you are a fucking liar?

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 2:50:00 PM   
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FIREARM DEATHS AND DEATH RATES AMONG CHILDREN AGES 1-14: 1999-2010

0.7

Now why isn't that 0.1 like you claimed? Perhaps because you are a fucking liar?

No. It's because you can't read, bozo. That's not the unintentional firearm deaths table.

How's that hole coming along?

K.



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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 3:06:07 PM   
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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 3:10:34 PM   
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The 62 deaths in 2010 was for missouri alone!!

Not unless Missouri's 2010 population was 308.7 million.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 3:55:34 PM   
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FIREARM DEATHS AND DEATH RATES AMONG CHILDREN AGES 1-14: 1999-2010

0.7

Now why isn't that 0.1 like you claimed? Perhaps because you are a fucking liar?

No. It's because you can't read, bozo. That's not the unintentional firearm deaths table.

How's that hole coming along?

K.



My bad but the unintentional rate proves it as well. You are still a fucking liar.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 6:30:57 PM   
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Now why isn't that 0.1 like you claimed?

That's not the unintentional firearm deaths table.

My bad but the unintentional rate proves it as well. You are still a fucking liar.

And you're still making shit up. The unintentional rate has been 0.1 for every year reported between 2001 and 2010.

K.


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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 6:43:03 PM   
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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 7:04:46 PM   
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Maybe I am reading it wrong BUT

The count at your source is clearly stated to be the total number of children killed by guns, not unintentional firearm fatalities, and it includes so-called "children" up to 17-years old, a concept of "children" that the CDC declines to credit.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 7:42:35 PM   
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Now why isn't that 0.1 like you claimed?

That's not the unintentional firearm deaths table.

My bad but the unintentional rate proves it as well. You are still a fucking liar.

And you're still making shit up. The unintentional rate has been 0.1 for every year reported between 2001 and 2010.

K.


Can't do math I see. Did you examine the rounding? I guess not. The actual rate is as high as 1.2 per million and the average for the period covered by the report is 1.15 per million. Do those look like 1 in a million odds to you? You may as well admit you went looking for a source to contradict me and found a bad one and now you dug in your heels and can't give up because you are too fucking stupid to see reality. 

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 8:00:06 PM   
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One in a million works out to 4.5 a year.

Well that's amazing, because a little while ago it was 81 a year.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

1 in one million means 81 will die...

This would be a good time to reflect on The First Law of Holes.

K.




and 80 does not equal thousands.

Maybe the idea of addition over time needs to be explained to you?

To reach thousands would take over 2 decades for guns 2 years for swimming pools whats the real threat.

So? Does that change the fact that thousands of children will die from gun accidents?

And ten times as many will drown in swimming pools.
Do you want to do something about deaths or are they alright as long as a gun isn't involved?
By your reasoning we have to take into account that thousands will be killed by their pet
dogs if you add up enough years.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 8:20:55 PM   
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Can't do math I see. Did you examine the rounding? I guess not. The actual rate is as high as 1.2 per million and the average for the period covered by the report is 1.15 per million. Do those look like 1 in a million odds to you?

Well actually, if you want to run the calculation out to two decimal places, the rate would be 1.08 per million for the 2010 number I cited. And yeah, that looks close enough to me to be broadly characterized as one in a million. But I didn't use that phrase. I posted the actual data instead. Also, I never said anything about the average for the entire period because the overall trend has been downward, so that would be deceptive. You know, like you.

K.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 8:25:45 PM   
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To you want to do something about deaths or are they alright as long as a gun isn't involved?

In the past, Ken has been an apologist for the collateral damage of slaughtered children in military operations. So I think he just mainly whines about it when it serves his agenda. You know how some people are.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/2/2014 8:39:57 PM   
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To you want to do something about deaths or are they alright as long as a gun isn't involved?

In the past, Ken has been an apologist for the collateral damage of slaughtered children in military operations. So I think he just mainly whines about it when it serves his agenda. You know how some people are.

K.





I think he shot his mouth off without thinking and is clutching at straws to back it up.

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RE: right-wing douche bags stalk CEO that developed a &... - 5/3/2014 1:40:55 AM   
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I think he shot his mouth off without thinking...

No, that's what he calls thinking.

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