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I think its very unusual for a woman to make the first contact and I'm afraid that would always rouse my suspicions.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Are you sure we weren't separated, at birth?

Seriously, was your father's name: "Joseph"?







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?

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ORIGINAL: summersub

I understand that women expect a man to contact her first however from a submale perspective I would expect the dominant women to be more aggressive. I read all the time about how women don't like this or that or get inundated with messages. As an example tonight I got another rejection but I did write. I would say that I don't get a reply to 75% of my messages, I think that is a shame. Aside from being inundated with emails, I guess that a lot of women have the luxury of rejecting men here, that they are afraid that a simple no thanks will lead the man to continue to pester them so they don't write back at all or they just don't want to write back to anyone and its easier to delete a message.

I know this is contrary to what women expect but if they initially showed more interest if they are looking for men it would be a lot easier for them to find partners. I also think that its actually the woman who does the choosing most of the time and gives a signal to the man that she is interested in real life.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

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ORIGINAL: summersub

I understand that women expect a man to contact her first however from a submale perspective I would expect the dominant women to be more aggressive. I read all the time about how women don't like this or that or get inundated with messages. As an example tonight I got another rejection but I did write. I would say that I don't get a reply to 75% of my messages, I think that is a shame. Aside from being inundated with emails, I guess that a lot of women have the luxury of rejecting men here, that they are afraid that a simple no thanks will lead the man to continue to pester them so they don't write back at all or they just don't want to write back to anyone and its easier to delete a message.

I know this is contrary to what women expect but if they initially showed more interest if they are looking for men it would be a lot easier for them to find partners. I also think that its actually the woman who does the choosing most of the time and gives a signal to the man that she is interested in real life.

You are absolutely correct that it is the woman who does the choosing as the Gatekeeper, speaking in generalities.
Even those who throw themselves at men have chosen which man caught their fancy to try to latch onto.

Besides the no-response observation, your other premises are not on target. If I may be so bold as to enlighten those shy types who play the subbliness card.
You are a man first and foremost. We are women first and foremost.
You are a submissive second. Likewise, being Dominant is a secondary part of our nature, as is any other character trait.
You and many other submissive males are confusing F/m with a role reversal. So do some (usually new, inexperienced) Dommes, or women who are role-playing at being a Domme or Mistress-type.
This is not a role reversal. You did not suddenly become psychologically a female. If we wanted that, we would turn to biological-cis or trans women instead.
A Dominant female is not psychologically a male. If this sort of inversion is someone's kink, then so be it, that's on them.
D/s is about power and authority, not aggressiveness, nor a measuring contest as to who has the bigger dick.

There is a reason why many Dommes choose a partner other than one of their male s-types (besides bisexuality, if applicable).
Too many submissive males cannot rise to the position of being primary partnership material.
Who does a Domme customarily end up marrying? Her vanilla boyfriend or even another Dom or S/switch. (Nothwithstanding, there are always exceptions; providers have been known to marry a sub client, if he's a big fish.)

It's your choice whether you want to sit back and wait for Dommes to contact you. Those who do tend to be for hire, and you are basically just another potential client to them.

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Besides the no-response observation, your other premises are not on target.
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Actually, what he is say is, that it seems women online tend to say one thing but practice another. On paper, he contacts women who say they want men to contact them, who are actively seeking partners and he contact those he feels he is most compatible with. In practice, those women have their own criteria for the ones they choose to talk with. For whatever reason, he did not meet this and so he was rejected. Out of all the messages he has sent out, 75% of them fall into this category. For example, the bulk mail filter. Every man here who has ever sent a message to a female has encountered this evil feature more than once. Why? Because we the sender, have no idea what criteria gets our message sent to it or even if it is in fact in the bulk message filter. All we know is that the message sits unread. Now veterans just assume that any unread messages are in this black hole, but new users must be left wondering why that first painstaking well thought out mail was ignored. It is funny, that with all the complaints about stupid and pointless emails women receive on an hourly basis on this site, that there is still this notion of making men still jump through all that chaff to "pursue". When the more rational thing to actually meeting, would be the ones who don't send dick pics and rape fantasy emails, to contact us first

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Woman Contacts Man First