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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 4:56:15 AM   
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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 6:41:07 AM   
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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:06:48 AM   
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This, wholeheartedly. Bug zappers use DC current at very low voltage. They are essentially a small static shock generator. Now if you think a person can die from static shock, I have a bridge in New York to sell you



Darwinism at it's finest. ppl die from static discharges all the time. Lightening is static electricity.

As a former chopper pilot, I've seen first hand ppl getting knocked to the ground from grabbing the "bare hook" when loading stuff while the chopper was in the air from the static electricity that the rotor blades generate. Now about that bridge.....

@ sexyladee What part of no electricity near the heart don't you understand?

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:12:57 AM   
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This, wholeheartedly. Bug zappers use DC current at very low voltage. They are essentially a small static shock generator. Now if you think a person can die from static shock, I have a bridge in New York to sell you



Darwinism at it's finest. ppl die from static discharges all the time. Lightening is static electricity.

As a former chopper pilot, I've seen first hand ppl getting knocked to the ground from grabbing the "bare hook" when loading stuff while the chopper was in the air from the static electricity that the rotor blade generate. Now about that bridge.....

BadOne


Ok, can you give one example from the realm of the sane please? Really, lightning? Are you actually serious with that one??? As for static discharge from a helicopter, do you even know why they build up static charge? If you did, see the lightning point

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:30:34 AM   
SailingBum


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather




This, wholeheartedly. Bug zappers use DC current at very low voltage. They are essentially a small static shock generator. Now if you think a person can die from static shock, I have a bridge in New York to sell you



Darwinism at it's finest. ppl die from static discharges all the time. Lightening is static electricity.

As a former chopper pilot, I've seen first hand ppl getting knocked to the ground from grabbing the "bare hook" when loading stuff while the chopper was in the air from the static electricity that the rotor blade generate. Now about that bridge.....

BadOne


Ok, can you give one example from the realm of the sane please? Really, lightning? Are you actually serious with that one??? As for static discharge from a helicopter, do you even know why they build up static charge? If you did, see the lightning point


You are the one that made the "blanket statement" that static electricity never killed anyone, not me. I was pointing out your error.

Of course I know why/how static electricity is generated in choppers my minor is Aeronautical Engineering, tho any 10 grader that understands how static electricity is generated is "made" can figure it out.

Now to the larger question. Your brain sends electrical impulses to your heart to "tell" it to beat. Do YOU really want to tempt fate and put any sort of amps/ voltage near your heart?!?!?

And no I didn't read the entire thread

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:33:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather




This, wholeheartedly. Bug zappers use DC current at very low voltage. They are essentially a small static shock generator. Now if you think a person can die from static shock, I have a bridge in New York to sell you



Darwinism at it's finest. ppl die from static discharges all the time. Lightening is static electricity.

As a former chopper pilot, I've seen first hand ppl getting knocked to the ground from grabbing the "bare hook" when loading stuff while the chopper was in the air from the static electricity that the rotor blade generate. Now about that bridge.....

BadOne


Ok, can you give one example from the realm of the sane please? Really, lightning? Are you actually serious with that one??? As for static discharge from a helicopter, do you even know why they build up static charge? If you did, see the lightning point


You are the one that made the "blanket statement" that static electricity never killed anyone, not me. I was pointing out your error.

Of course I know why/how static electricity is generated in choppers my minor is Aeronautical Engineering, tho any 10 grader that understands how static electricity is generated is "made" can figure it out.

Now to the larger question. Your brain sends electrical impulses to your heart to "tell" it to beat. Do YOU really want to tempt fate and put any sort of amps/ voltage near your heart?!?!?

And no I didn't read the entire thread

BadOne



*facepalm*
You should read the entire thread before you speak then. And the blanket statement is perfectly valid unless of course you have those who bring up acts of god, go figure. As for you "heart" question, I already answered that earlier in this thread that you chose not to read

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:37:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Darkfeather, you and MalcolmNathaniel and CrazyML got into a many-pages-long pissing contest thread about this exact same frigging issue not that long ago. Instead of recreating it anew, why don't you just post the link to that voluminous thread and save some space?

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:39:17 AM   
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Armed Services Technical Information Agency, Arlington Hall Station, Arlington 12, Virginia, USA. TCREC Technical Report 62-72. Helicopter Static-Electricity Measurements Task 9R38-01-017-30, June, 1962.

Babrauskas, V., “Some Basic Facts About Ignition Events During Fueling of Motor Vehicles at Filling Stations” California Fire/Arson Investigator 16.25 (Apr. 2005).

Born, G.J. et al. The Princeton Pennsylvania Army Avionics Research Program. A Fundamental Study of Static Electric Phenomena (Applied to Helicopters) Prepared for the Army Electronics Command, March, 1972. AD-750 617.

Bulgin, D. et al. “Static electricity on rubber-tyred vehicles” British Journal of Applied Physics 4 Supplement (1953): 83-87.

Chubb, John “The Control of Body Voltage Getting out of a Car” Presented at the Static and Textiles meeting, 18 March, 1998, during the Institute of Physics Annual Congress in Brighton.

Crow, Rita M. Static Electricity: A Literature Review Defence Research Establishment Ottawa, Technical Note 91-28, Ottawa, Canada, November, 1991.

Fish, Raymond M. et al. Medical and Bioengineering Aspects of Electrical Injuries Tucson: Lawyers & Judges Publishing Company, 2003. (screenshots of pages in ZIP file).

Greenwald, E.K. Electrical Hazards and Accidents: Their Cause and Prevention New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1991.

Liska, J.W. and Hanson, E.E. “Static Electric Problems in Tires” Industrial and Engineering Chemistry 34.5 (May, 1942): 618-624.

Nabours, Robert E. “Static Discharge Hazard During Refueling at Retail Gasoline Stations” IEEE Transactions on Industry Applications 40.4 (July/August, 2004): 1003-1005.

NFPA 77 Recommended Practice on Static Electricity Qunicy, MA: NFPA 2007 Edition.

The Naval Air Systems Command, Electromagnetics Branch. Airframe Electrical Grounding Requirements Program, Final Report. AIR 5181-1000, February 17, 1981.

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:39:34 AM   
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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:43:15 AM   
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Somebody wanted cites... ?

Armed Services Technical Information Agency, Arlington Hall Station, Arlington 12, Virginia, USA. TCREC Technical Report 62-72. Helicopter Static-Electricity Measurements Task 9R38-01-017-30, June, 1962.

Babrauskas, V., “Some Basic Facts About Ignition Events During Fueling of Motor Vehicles at Filling Stations” California Fire/Arson Investigator 16.25 (Apr. 2005).

Born, G.J. et al. The Princeton Pennsylvania Army Avionics Research Program. A Fundamental Study of Static Electric Phenomena (Applied to Helicopters) Prepared for the Army Electronics Command, March, 1972. AD-750 617.

Bulgin, D. et al. “Static electricity on rubber-tyred vehicles” British Journal of Applied Physics 4 Supplement (1953): 83-87.

Chubb, John “The Control of Body Voltage Getting out of a Car” Presented at the Static and Textiles meeting, 18 March, 1998, during the Institute of Physics Annual Congress in Brighton.

Crow, Rita M. Static Electricity: A Literature Review Defence Research Establishment Ottawa, Technical Note 91-28, Ottawa, Canada, November, 1991.

Fish, Raymond M. et al. Medical and Bioengineering Aspects of Electrical Injuries Tucson: Lawyers & Judges Publishing Company, 2003. (screenshots of pages in ZIP file).

Greenwald, E.K. Electrical Hazards and Accidents: Their Cause and Prevention New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1991.

Liska, J.W. and Hanson, E.E. “Static Electric Problems in Tires” Industrial and Engineering Chemistry 34.5 (May, 1942): 618-624.

Nabours, Robert E. “Static Discharge Hazard During Refueling at Retail Gasoline Stations” IEEE Transactions on Industry Applications 40.4 (July/August, 2004): 1003-1005.

NFPA 77 Recommended Practice on Static Electricity Qunicy, MA: NFPA 2007 Edition.

The Naval Air Systems Command, Electromagnetics Branch. Airframe Electrical Grounding Requirements Program, Final Report. AIR 5181-1000, February 17, 1981.


No one is disputing static discharge causes problems with electronic systems or fuel, sheesh. Show me one case, other than the one Mr. freedomdwarf comically provided, that shows a death caused by a normal static discharge? Not lightning, not will-o-wisps, not faire-fire, or any other spectacular example one can infer

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:44:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		No I don't have to read the entire thread. Perhaps you should stop making erroneous statements.

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:47:39 AM   
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No I don't have to read the entire thread. Perhaps you should stop making erroneous statements.

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which one would be the erroneous one? By the way, I answered the heart issue not in this thread but the electrosex one.

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 8:52:11 AM   
SailingBum


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Status: offline 		geez really! You are the one that made the "blanket statement" that static electricity never killed anyone, not me. I was pointing out your error.

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 9:02:16 AM   
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geez really! You are the one that made the "blanket statement" that static electricity never killed anyone, not me. I was pointing out your error.

BadOne

so you are honestly and with a straight face, saying you see no difference between taking a piece of fur and rubbing it against a balloon... And getting hit by a bolt of lightning?

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 9:25:32 AM   
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Here is the previous ever-so-Domly pissing contest regarding bdsm and electricity. I realize the forums have been pretty sparse lately but that isn't a good reason to clog it up with the same old crap.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4485970/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 9:31:53 AM   
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Here is the previous ever-so-Domly pissing contest regarding bdsm and electricity. I realize the forums have been pretty sparse lately but that isn't a good reason to clog it up with the same old crap.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4485970/mpage_1/tm.htm


Oh god, I remember that thread. Even has where I posted video evidence of an actual TENS unit being used above the waist and *shocker* no one died. See, facts

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 9:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		WTH balloon ?!?!? Direct quote from your post "Now if you think a person can die from static shock, I have a bridge in New York to sell you" Plain and simple you are wrong. I have no clue why you just can't admit it.
There was nothing in your OP about balloon fur whatever sheesh. You made a statement that has no basis in reality.


I'm so done discussing this. As you clearly and poorly I might add attempt to twist my words. Static electricity kills ppl all the time! nuff said

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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 1:07:43 PM   
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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/2/2014 1:17:58 PM   
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RE: electric bug zappers - 5/3/2014 8:44:32 AM   
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question? is it safe to try and use an electric bug zapper on a nipple or clit? the zapper is the one that looks like a racket. just curious.



I tried that a few years ago... the tennis racket style bug zapper.

A> The tiny capacitance discharge type circuit really didn't provide much stimulation to something human sized
B> The construction was too flimsy to be used as a play implement
C> You can make a much better working shock tool out of some wire, a nail, aluminum foil, and a D cell battery. (Physics can be fun)

You might find a violet want to be much more interesting that repurposing what is a flimsy novelty item.

Hmm, thinking on the DC induction coil zapper. I wonder if a paddle that zapped on impact would be marketable.

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