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Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 4/30/2014 8:29:38 PM   
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To run for president of the United States.

Both parties need individuals who are 'main street wise.'

Both parties need candidates who are "As honest as the day is long.’ And we all know people who no matter the situation will always do what is right, and honorable and honest.

Both parties need a candidate who yes is well educated but sorry, none of the so called top ivy schools which produce all the egotistical jerks we have now in office.
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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 4/30/2014 8:56:09 PM   
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yeah,but best of luck at that actually happening.

What we actually need is for the voting populous to sharpen up
as long as half the voting population are uniformed idiots,we're gonna end up with who uniformed idiots vote for.


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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 4/30/2014 9:02:00 PM   
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well i really don't want to see any of the so called names topping the list in either party.

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 4/30/2014 9:08:49 PM   
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Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.

I'd follow that man to the gates of hell and I know many Democrats who feel the same way.







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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 4/30/2014 9:39:25 PM   
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Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.

I'd follow that man to the gates of hell and I know many Democrats who feel the same way.

He'll never run. My Lai and the UN speech guarantee it.

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 12:55:33 AM   
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quote:

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Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.

I'd follow that man to the gates of hell and I know many Democrats who feel the same way.

He'll never run. My Lai and the UN speech guarantee it.


He would also have to run as a Democrat after his public support of Obummer. He alienated a good chunk of Republicans, and probably wouldn't survive a GOP primary.

-SD-

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 2:10:29 AM   
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I'd be voting for the man; not the letter after his name.








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He would also have to run as a Democrat after his public support of Obummer. He alienated a good chunk of Republicans, and probably wouldn't survive a GOP primary.

-SD-





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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 3:12:58 AM   
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I'd be voting for the man; not the letter after his name.








Which is certainly your right to do. Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that he wouldn't survive a Republican primary.

In Powells 2008 Meet the Press interview, he clearly stated that he felt the Republican Party was leaning too far to the right, which was why he was going to endorse Obama. Also in 2008, he stated that he believed Obama possessed a "steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, and depth of knowledge to approach the nation's problems."

Republicans largely considered Barry O's first term to be to be a series of disasters. The alleged recovery which prominently featured the likes of Solyndra and other failed jobs initiatives... the Occutards... Fast and Furious... getting Americans killed... violating the War Powers Act in Lybia... Benghazi... getting more Americans killed... using the IRS and other government agencies to target political enemies... etc., etc.. Yet, Powell endorsed him again in 2012. That's a pretty big difference in opinion, and not likely to earn him any points for being a good enough judge of character to occupy the Oval Office after publicly turning on the party in the previous election...

In 2013 he came out in support of single-payer health care, which is about as far as you can get from the Republican party line.

Really, all Powell needs to do is endorse free abortions for all women over the age of 13 and he's pretty much the Democratic Party Poster Child.

-SD-

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 4:47:07 AM   
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We need a champion.

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 7:55:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

To run for president of the United States.

Both parties need individuals who are 'main street wise.'

Both parties need candidates who are "As honest as the day is long.’ And we all know people who no matter the situation will always do what is right, and honorable and honest.

Both parties need a candidate who yes is well educated but sorry, none of the so called top ivy schools which produce all the egotistical jerks we have now in office.



We`re happy with Hillary and the right is scared shitless of her........


I hear the mittens is thinking of running again.......

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 8:00:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SadistDave


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.

I'd follow that man to the gates of hell and I know many Democrats who feel the same way.

He'll never run. My Lai and the UN speech guarantee it.


He would also have to run as a Democrat after his public support of Obummer. He alienated a good chunk of Republicans, and probably wouldn't survive a GOP primary.

-SD-




Meh.......beside the fact that shrub made him into a clown act, this is why he won`t run as a republican.

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 8:42:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

To run for president of the United States.

Both parties need individuals who are 'main street wise.'

Both parties need candidates who are "As honest as the day is long.’ And we all know people who no matter the situation will always do what is right, and honorable and honest.

Both parties need a candidate who yes is well educated but sorry, none of the so called top ivy schools which produce all the egotistical jerks we have now in office.


Considering those who are smart, honest, and basically decent individuals - the kind of people this country truly needs to step up and help lead this country - why would they want to get involved in politics? (This is even assuming that they have some level of name recognition, credentials, financial backing, etc.) And to run for President, one has to spend some time in other offices, such as senator, governor, congress, etc. - which is also where we need honorable candidates, but we're not getting them.

The same problem exists at the state and local level. Why would someone who is decent and honorable want to fight a political machine? One would either have to give in or risk losing it all - or fight them and beat them on their own level, where winning becomes more important than decency or honor...and then we're back to square one.



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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 8:50:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SadistDave


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.

I'd follow that man to the gates of hell and I know many Democrats who feel the same way.

He'll never run. My Lai and the UN speech guarantee it.


He would also have to run as a Democrat after his public support of Obummer. He alienated a good chunk of Republicans, and probably wouldn't survive a GOP primary.

-SD-


Oh, the deceptions they planted on him, I don't think you are going to see him support any nutsackers, not ever.


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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 8:52:01 AM   
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quote:

We`re happy with Hillary and the right is scared shitless of her........

I hear the mittens is thinking of running again....


quote:

Gen./Sec. Colin Powell.


I see this thread got hijacked almost from the beginning. This is not about those names every one knows, but could there be a person, never in the spotlight unless perhaps part of a sports teams success, being put forward in not one party but both parties,

that these two persons are
1. honest,
2. true to their core values and everyone in their community knows it.

Most of you know of one person who would fit the above definition.

Why can't people play according to the premise of the thread?

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 9:05:06 AM   
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I think the hijacking rules are a bit looser now.


As long as someone doesn`t talk about kim kardashian or boating......it`s not a hijack.


How can we talk about political qualities without talking about their living examples?

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 9:39:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

To run for president of the United States.

Both parties need individuals who are 'main street wise.'

Both parties need candidates who are "As honest as the day is long.’ And we all know people who no matter the situation will always do what is right, and honorable and honest.

Both parties need a candidate who yes is well educated but sorry, none of the so called top ivy schools which produce all the egotistical jerks we have now in office.

They need someone not chosen by big money.

Not gonna happen -- the Supreme Court made sure of that!

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/1/2014 11:12:52 AM   
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When President Obama came to office, he naïve believed he could change the politics in Washington (and maybe the rest of the nation). Much of his first and second year was devoted to 'bridging the gap' between the two parties (and much of America). That he worked tirelessly, speeches all over the place, to get people working together rather than furthering the span and depth of the political chasm. Unfortunately for America, that was not what the Republicans and most especially the Tea Party desired. The country was in the middle of a very deep recession that was border lining an economic depression. We had many troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan at the time. And many other man-made and natural disasters on top of it all. The Republican/Tea Party at the time, just recently lose control of Congress yet again to the Democrats. And the conservative media misinformation machine was still spewing 24/7. To say the least, the President was up against impossible odds, would be an understatement. Whether you agree or disagree with the guy, he was trying to restore American's faith in government.

The lesson learned is one of many, nor a small group can not possibly hope to change Washington. It would take a vast sum of people, changing of numerous laws and regulations, time, patience, intelligence, deep levels of education and enough wisdom to fill Jupiter! If such a people could be found, they would have to be 'middle of the road'. Of course, no one is True Neutral (to take a Dungeons and Dragon's, 1st edition definition). That moderates have both conservative and liberal views on a wide range of topics. Of course these individuals that could serve, and do well in restoring America's trust and faith in government, are not remotely perfect individuals. They have many flaws physically, mentally, emotionally, politically, and/or religiously.

That the process of getting elected has to be overhauled top to bottom is an understatement. That someone for the poor class should have as much right and chance of being a senator or representative as the multi-millionaire. An I think the poor person could very much use that $178K/year salary more than the super rich. Lets not forget the middle class, as they do are feeling their power in the US Government shrinking each and every day. So campaign reform would have to conclude (like much of the country) that money in politics is not 'used for freedom of speech' but more so to undermine that free speech of all Americans. How many 'ma & pa' newspapers exist in the United States on a regional or national level (if not international)? None! How many corporations, whose loyalty is not necessary the same for the United States of America, but hold national and international influence? Quite a few. That the poor/middle class candidate for office has an equal about of time/prime-time coverage as the rich.

Could any of us run without establishing a political party? Or being in a political party? According to some laws and regulations: 'no'. Then again, an individual running against someone with well placed friends/allies has no chance of winning. So is it really a Democracy or a Republic? Or a Plutocracy? An Oligarchy?

The two most powerful tools the founding fathers gave to future generations is: A ) The ability to freely vote, and B ) The ability to meet half way during tough negotiations. In 'A', the problem is not with freely voting. Its that the number of informed, thinking, and conscious voters, is only about 1/3rd of the total population of voters. Another 1/3rd are the opposite of the first third; they don't think, consider, nor are well informed. The final third, don't vote; so not much can be said how they would vote. How do we get that second 'third' to be more informed, given all the fucking technological advancements this nation has seen in the last decade alone? How do we get the final third of voters to the actual polls? Tyranny wins when few Americans vote; Liberty wins when many Americans vote.

Right now, Congress has no ability to agree on much of anything. That might explain their 12-17% approval rating. Republican/Tea Party feel they should run the country irrelevant of how the elections went in both Presidential elections. They have pushed bills through the US House of Representatives fully knowing the Senate would never approve of the bill. So why waste government money pushing crap that has no chance of becoming law? For political points in Republican districts. To say "They are getting stuff done, and Democrats/the President, are road blocking things. But reality is, the Republicans send stuff they knew ahead of time would never pass. It would be like Democrats sending bill that directly undermined the 2nd amendment.....over and over again. Republicans would never sign off on such laws. Which is why the Democrats don't really do it very often. The ability to sit down, negotiate and compromise, is a concept completely lost on the current session of Congress. More Republican than Democrat. Tea Partiers? Those guys just hate the United States, and want it dismantled all together; or at least that's what their actions speak....

Why bother trying to solve the problems beyond the beginning, when we cant solve the beginning problems? Worst is, that Americans do not want to solve the beginning problems. Easier to bitch and moan than get one off their ass to do something useful! We have this problem every year, yet the number of Americans doing something about it is a tiny fraction of what is needed. In my home town, the election that is coming up in a week or two, will only have 1/11th the number of residents voting. To bad we couldn't list the other 10/11ths of voters out in the open and shame them for FAILING of their civil duty. 'Not going to the polls' is not the same as 'voting for none of the people listed' at the polling station. And the ones that don't have a reasonable excuse for not getting to the polls or sending an absentee ballot, are usually the same stupid, idiots, that complain about government!

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/3/2014 4:05:38 AM   
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I liked Herman Cain. I still do. A lot of the libs like Hillary. I think that would be an entertaining humiliation for Mrs. Clinton. I'm pretty sure that his experience as a radio talk show host would give him a leg up on Hillary.

quote:


Hillary - You shouldn't be President because you had sex outside of marriage

Herman - May I remind you that your husband was impeached because you weren't woman enough for him. Maybe I should be debating Monica Lewinsky or Gennifer Flowers!

Hillary - But, but, but.... that doesn't have anything to do with me!

Herman - Enabling your husbands decades of alleged indescertions has everything to do with you. I think it's important to know which of America's enemies you might be inclined to enable in the future if you were to become President.

Candy Crowley - Um.... moving on.... Let's talk about job performance... Hillary?

Hillary - I'm extremely proud of my service at the State Department!

Herman - Really?

Hillary - Well.... yes! I accomplished a lot while serving in that capacity.

Herman - Name one thing you did at State that might compel people to vote for you.

(crickets)

(somewhere in the distance a lonely dog barks)

Hillary - Well... what have you done that's so great?

Herman - Just so you'll know why that matters now, I'll tell you. Aside from being on the board of money making corporations while the State Department somehow managed to lose 6 billion dollars of tax payer money under your watchful eye, I have also managed to not get anyone who worked for me killed through my own neglegence.


I really think that's about all it would take for Hillary to just come unglued and fuck up her campaign.

-SD-


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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/3/2014 6:25:18 AM   
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Yeah, we need a pizza guy and radio talkshow host for President. The guy oozes dumbass.

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RE: Both the Democrats and Republicans need a Darkhorse - 5/3/2014 7:46:26 AM   
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I liked Herman Cain. I still do. A lot of the libs like Hillary. I think that would be an entertaining humiliation for Mrs. Clinton. I'm pretty sure that his experience as a radio talk show host would give him a leg up on Hillary.


Yes, let the Republican/Tea Party run Herman Cain again. It will be the first time they are fully honest with the American Public in forty years! That they admit they have....nobody...decent to run in a general election against a veteran of politics. In a stand up brawl, he would cry out in mercy when she steps into the ring, let alone the first actual punch!

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