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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 9:25:51 AM

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You are the only one posting that this bigoted swill is good family fun.

Bigoted swill my ass. You just can't fucking read English.

This is english.

"It ain't white folks driving into our inner cities at night to paint gang signs on buildings, shoot the place up, and punch a few heads of kids who are trying to do well in school."

English.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 9:58:52 AM

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It's wrong to hire anyone who doesn't qualify for the job solely to meet a quota of "racial balance".

What law forces anyone to hire an unqualified person to achieve "racial balance"?

Affirmative action, a federal law that came out of Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights act of 1964.

If that is true then perhaps you could post the relevant sections for us.

I'll let you do the reading. You're a smart guy.

Is this your way of saying you cannot support the ignorant asanine opinions you post?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:18:13 AM

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How many Spanish music videos have anything in their final product about "my wetback"?

The rodriguez brothers come to mind but then they are just the most popular.

How many Jewish music videos (or movies) talk about all the "Kikes" in the hood? How many Asian music videos go on and on about all the "Chinks" they work with, wanna fuck or think have fine booty's?

"Waite waite don't tell me" ..."sum dum goy" I think is the title of the video you are looking for.

About as many as videos by white people who talk about "crackers" and other epithets.

None.

Not "very few".....none.

Lemme see??? pretty sure "larry the cable guy and "you might be a red neck" might qualify here

Because it's offensive. It's unproductive. It values themselves and their peers as "less than".

And everyone (except for one class/race of people) agrees.

And who's being affected by this disease of language? Not whites. Not Jews. Not Asians. Not Latinos.

And who's complaining about the epithets? Not whites. Not Jews. Not Asians. Not Latinos.

How many SNL sketches are there about "stupid white people"? A movie: "White men can't jump". How many TV shows with other nationalities pick on their white boss, neighbor, ex boyfriend, etc.? (More than a few). And it's always against white men

I am guessing you did not see "pulp fiction" or "kill bill". Both had black villians one a man one a woman.

....how dare they shoot a negative against a woman, black, white or any color or race. One would be bad enough, but one against black men would create a virtual firestorm. Against black women....get the Presidential football out....it's time for fingerprint analysis, verifying the counterbalancing corresponding codes and.....push the red button. WWIII.

Yet no one seems to take offense at any of these negative backlashes against white people. Not even white people.

Anyone remember any about stupid black people? None that I recall.

D.w. griffiths "birth of a nation" or how bout "reffer madness"

Because it's perfectly politically correct to denigrate white people.

It is always correct to denigrate assholes of any colour.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:26:16 AM

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The criteria was that a white guy's 95 was equal to a non-white guy's 75 in test scores. So, all else being equal, the lesser qualified was approved.

Would you have any validation for this or are we just going to have to take your brother's(the one who did not get the job who is white ) word for it.

I thought affirmative action was about proportional access and not about lowering standards.

That is what the law says so the question is just how did the fbi (according to your brother)manage to change the rules?

While I can't speak for everywhere, I can say that I've seen harm done through affirmative action and do not support it as a means of creating equality.

So would you be in favor of going back to what existed before aa?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:32:24 AM

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There is no "white world"...whites are now firmly the minority in this country.

Would you have any validation for this asanine,ignorant,absurd opinion?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:38:23 AM

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double post

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:38:59 AM

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I think members have made their points and will no longer need the use of inflammatory words to describe the race of a person or group of people.

It would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:45:39 AM

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Here in Redmond (Microsoft/Yahoo/Google) country, that's a proven fact. Indians (as in from India) outnumber, per capita, every other nationality as to tech hires...and they're all from one of the poorest countries on Earth.

That is because the tech companies use h1b visas to pay indians 25% of what they pay american citizens. So it appears that you are all in favor of throwing your fellow citizens under the bus to save a buck or two?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:47:11 AM

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Asians, Jews and Latino's for some odd reason don't seem to hold on to this ridiculous masturbation.

Certainly not the rich educated ones.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:52:11 AM

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Whining insures a certainty of failure, and has it's own rewards.

Whining seems to work for donald trumph and klive bundy.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/10/2014 10:57:22 AM

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Knowledge is the key to getting out of the starting gate exactly 0.0000014737 seconds earlier than the other guy.

And more often than not in this age of atomic clocks....that's the win.

More ofen than not the faster skier wins no mater what kind of clock is used.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 2:34:50 AM

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It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.

The devastating effects of crushing poverty, racism, social marginalisation and exclusion on individual and communal achievement are well documented. To pretend that the game is the same for everyone is to deny the mountains of research that record the negative effects of these forces on individuals and entire communities.

It would be wonderful if the game was the same for everyone. It would be wonderful if there really was a level playing field. The sad reality is that there isn't. Anywhere.

You get the same sun, and the same sunset.

Everything else is what you make of it.

So. it's all in the mind ...? Your mind perhaps.

But not in the minds of those who acquaint themselves with the relevant research and facts. ........ of which there exists a mountain of research findings that early childhood circumstances have a decisive effect on adult outcomes. If those circumstances are negative, the likeliehood is that the adult outcome will not be superlative. Hardly rocket science is it?.

It's not a level playing field, never has been and most probably never will be. Hiding behind such specious platitudes offers a way of denying the reality of racism, its causes and its insidious effects, replacing them with smug and complacent victim blaming.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 2:52:18 AM

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It's wrong to hire anyone who doesn't qualify for the job solely to meet a quota of "racial balance".

What law forces anyone to hire an unqualified person to achieve "racial balance"?

Affirmative action, a federal law that came out of Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights act of 1964.

If that is true then perhaps you could post the relevant sections for us.

I'll let you do the reading. You're a smart guy.

Is this your way of saying you cannot support the ignorant asanine opinions you post?

No, it's my way of saying Google is an amazing resource, and if you're truly that curious, it can provide you with a wealth of knowledge about both, this item and millions of others. Seek to your hearts desire.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 2:56:26 AM

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Here in Redmond (Microsoft/Yahoo/Google) country, that's a proven fact. Indians (as in from India) outnumber, per capita, every other nationality as to tech hires...and they're all from one of the poorest countries on Earth.

That is because the tech companies use h1b visas to pay indians 25% of what they pay american citizens. So it appears that you are all in favor of throwing your fellow citizens under the bus to save a buck or two?

No they don't, they pay them more because they're better trained. And if you ask me to prove that, I will refer you to Google again....it's very easy to do.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 2:57:27 AM

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Knowledge is the key to getting out of the starting gate exactly 0.0000014737 seconds earlier than the other guy.

And more often than not in this age of atomic clocks....that's the win.

More ofen than not the faster skier wins no mater what kind of clock is used.

You were dropped on your head as a child weren't you?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 2:59:40 AM

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It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.

The devastating effects of crushing poverty, racism, social marginalisation and exclusion on individual and communal achievement are well documented. To pretend that the game is the same for everyone is to deny the mountains of research that record the negative effects of these forces on individuals and entire communities.

It would be wonderful if the game was the same for everyone. It would be wonderful if there really was a level playing field. The sad reality is that there isn't. Anywhere.

You get the same sun, and the same sunset.

Everything else is what you make of it.

So. it's all in the mind ...? Your mind perhaps.

But not in the minds of those who acquaint themselves with the relevant research and facts. ........ of which there exists a mountain of research findings that early childhood circumstances have a decisive effect on adult outcomes. If those circumstances are negative, the likeliehood is that the adult outcome will not be superlative. Hardly rocket science is it?.

It's not a level playing field, never has been and most probably never will be. Hiding behind such specious platitudes offers a way of denying the reality of racism, its causes and its insidious effects, replacing them with smug and complacent victim blaming.

If you think you can or think you can't....you're right.

Tweakabelle, there is no amount of conversation possible to prove to someone who wants to believe they'll fail that they can in fact succeed.

So, of course....you're right.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 3:44:04 AM

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It's the same rule book for everyone, because it's the same game.

The devastating effects of crushing poverty, racism, social marginalisation and exclusion on individual and communal achievement are well documented. To pretend that the game is the same for everyone is to deny the mountains of research that record the negative effects of these forces on individuals and entire communities.

It would be wonderful if the game was the same for everyone. It would be wonderful if there really was a level playing field. The sad reality is that there isn't. Anywhere.

You get the same sun, and the same sunset.

Everything else is what you make of it.

So. it's all in the mind ...? Your mind perhaps.

But not in the minds of those who acquaint themselves with the relevant research and facts. ........ of which there exists a mountain of research findings that early childhood circumstances have a decisive effect on adult outcomes. If those circumstances are negative, the likeliehood is that the adult outcome will not be superlative. Hardly rocket science is it?.

It's not a level playing field, never has been and most probably never will be. Hiding behind such specious platitudes offers a way of denying the reality of racism, its causes and its insidious effects, replacing them with smug and complacent victim blaming.

If you think you can or think you can't....you're right.

Tweakabelle, there is no amount of conversation possible to prove to someone who wants to believe they'll fail that they can in fact succeed.

So, of course....you're right.

And, despite the inaccuracies in your post, there lies the difference between us - you are dealing in beliefs and I am dealing in facts. That difference is not reducible to simplistic notions of 'fail/succeed'.

The difference is between someone who is describing the reality for millions supported by a mountain of research and experience and someone who is desperately avoiding reality by insisting that their unsupported belief is a universal fact. It's a bit like arguing against religion with a fundamentalist/true believer. Reality is irrelevant to the true believer/fundamentalist. Their belief in the correctness of their own position trumps all the evidence to the contrary - at least it does in their own minds.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 5:42:43 AM

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Here in Redmond (Microsoft/Yahoo/Google) country, that's a proven fact. Indians (as in from India) outnumber, per capita, every other nationality as to tech hires...and they're all from one of the poorest countries on Earth.

That is because the tech companies use h1b visas to pay indians 25% of what they pay american citizens. So it appears that you are all in favor of throwing your fellow citizens under the bus to save a buck or two?

No they don't, they pay them more because they're better trained. And if you ask me to prove that, I will refer you to Google again....it's very easy to do.

Nope.
http://www.ibtimes.com/five-companies-responsible-third-new-h-1b-guest-worker-visa-approvals-last-year-businesses-1572499
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/silicon-valley-h1b-visas-hurt-tech-workers
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/india/131210/the-indian-tech-worker-h-1b-visa-scam
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tech-decision-maker/the-fallacy-of-talent-shortages-and-h-1b-visas/

Remember when you bashed me when I first told you this?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 7:13:55 AM

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If you think you can or think you can't....you're right.

Tweakabelle, there is no amount of conversation possible to prove to someone who wants to believe they'll fail that they can in fact succeed.

So, of course....you're right.

I can see that you're a big believer in Norman Vincent Peale. Or maybe Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich?

Trouble is, you're advancing a circular argument. It's rather convenient to say that it's all a matter of positive thinking, so if someone doesn't succeed, it's always their own fault, since they must not have been "positive" enough. The same notion would imply that a baseball player should be able to hit a home run at every at-bat, but if he doesn't, it must all be in his mind, right?

But if it's all the power of the mind, as you say, then that power works in different ways, particularly when it's being formed and molded early in life. A parent and other influential authority figures in a child's life can help mold and form the child's mind, either in the positive or the negative. (That's part of the reason why "everyone gets a trophy" at school events, much to the criticism of conservatives, but the reasoning behind it is to balance out all the negative imagery and suggestions that fill up a child's mind and makes them believe they will fail.)

So, by the time a child reaches age 16 or 17, with 95% of their upbringing being a constant refrain of "you will fail, you will fail, you will fail," then that's what they will believe, because that's what they've been taught, and failure is what they've been living around all their lives. A few Norman Vincent Peale lectures won't be enough to reverse that. Your position is not realistic.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/11/2014 7:32:22 AM

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You were dropped on your head as a child weren't you?

Personal insults are the typical default for the ignorant.

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