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RottenJohnny -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/14/2014 11:03:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Just where have I spewed bullshit?

Just where did I make you the subject of the statement?


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Now wouldnt that be a fine kettle of fish? Dead copper in the garage shot dead while retrieving small child from partially open garage without previously warning the homeowner of his pressence?

No. It would be another pointless tragedy.


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Then that would "probably" be true for the x number of times it has happened to you.

A brilliant deduction.


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How would that apply when compared to say ten million non violent investigatroy police/non police encounter?

It's hard to say considering I haven't had ten million encounters with the police. Just a couple dozen or so. But since you seem convinced that I'm in error in some way then post whatever data you need that shows I'm wrong and wank your superiority boner.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 12:32:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So now you are going to tell us about tactics, Joether? Really?



If the Constitutionalist militias ever do rise to fight our government, he's the one I want planning strategy for the government side!







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




Moderator7 -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 4:33:16 AM)

Good morning, just stopping by and would like to remind everyone that calling groups of people names will be considered racist in certain content, so please do your best to gain composure and refrain from doingso.

Have a great day and continued discussion [:)].





joether -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 8:59:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
So now you are going to tell us about tactics, Joether? Really?

If the Constitutionalist militias ever do rise to fight our government, he's the one I want planning strategy for the government side!



I wont have to do that, there are plenty of good people to perform that role in the United States Military. Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world. Many of those militia members will surrender or team up with the US Military after Posse Comitatus is signed (because they are not foolish). The gun controllers in this nation would be handed an unstoppable victory; the 2nd amendment being nullified/reworded under the 28th amendment. Most Americans will side with the US Government. And before you say it, the US Military has lots of recent experience dealing with insurgents hiding out in remote parts of the nation.







thompsonx -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 9:07:22 AM)


ORIGINAL: joether
Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world.

There is little evidence to validate that opinion



And before you say it, the US Military has lots of recent experience dealing with insurgents hiding out in remote parts of the nation.

Their success has been less than stellar.









PeonForHer -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 12:05:00 PM)

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.





thompsonx -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:02:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.




Ok this puts a whole new light on it. The german kid was part of an international drug ring who steal other peoples drugs to give to the impoverished???
I just knew there was something more sinister going on than just some ignorant moron thinking he was wayett eeerrrrpp
[:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:04:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: joether
Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world.

There is little evidence to validate that opinion


There's a wealth of evidence.




Musicmystery -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:05:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SadistDave


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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny


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ORIGINAL: joether
Is it not a decent idea to know WHO and WHAT your firing at? Least it be someone or something you would regret killing? Like a police officer investigating something?

A police officer would have had a flashlight and probably would have announced himself.


Police officers have a completely different set of rules they must follow. In most states with Castle Doctrine the homeowner is not required to announce himself or his intent in his own home.

-SD-

That's why I'd prefer police officers handle these situations.




thompsonx -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:19:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: joether
Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world.

There is little evidence to validate that opinion


There's a wealth of evidence.


How successful was the army in the phillipine insurrection?
How successful was the army in chasing down pancho villa?
How successful was the army in korea?
How succcessful was the army in cuba?
How successful was the army in viet nam?
How successful has the army been in the sand box?
All six of the above conflicts are against amatures.['/b]




Musicmystery -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:26:06 PM)

Ah. The Perfectionist Fallacy.

So then what *IS* the #1 military? And based on what evidence?




thompsonx -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:28:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Ah. The Perfectionist Fallacy.

So then what *IS* the #1 military? And based on what evidence?



To know what isn't does not requre me to know what is.




Musicmystery -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:29:56 PM)

Ah. Full of shit as usual.

You have fun with that. Bye now.




PeonForHer -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:34:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.




Ok this puts a whole new light on it. The german kid was part of an international drug ring who steal other peoples drugs to give to the impoverished???
I just knew there was something more sinister going on than just some ignorant moron thinking he was wayett eeerrrrpp
[:D]



No, the killer was a stonie. Not his victim, the German kid. Or that's how the suspicions are going, anyway, apparently.




thompsonx -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 1:36:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.




Ok this puts a whole new light on it. The german kid was part of an international drug ring who steal other peoples drugs to give to the impoverished???
I just knew there was something more sinister going on than just some ignorant moron thinking he was wayett eeerrrrpp
[:D]



No, the killer was a stonie. Not his victim, the German kid. Or that's how the suspicions are going, anyway, apparently.



I am sorry...That was meant tongue in cheek and a box car load of salt.




TheHeretic -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 8:15:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.





I saw that the prosecutors have just recently put out a 19 page affidavit related to the case. Even with some recent upgrades, this 'puter still has an allergy to Adobe, so I can't read the pdf from here, but if you throw "Kaarma shooting" into Google (fate does have a sense of humor) you should get a hit on it.

Of course, the way THC lingers in the body, determining whether he was actually stoned at the time of the shooting might be hard to determine. If he was any kind of regular smoker, the drug would certainly be detectable in his system either way. Washington and Colorado are working on new standards for it, but we aren't there yet.




TheHeretic -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/15/2014 8:42:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world.



Oh dear. I'm guessing you don't associate with very many servicemembers, Joether.

The oath we all took is, first and foremost, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. I know there are studies locked away as Top Secret/SCI that have some pretty good estimates on the numbers in various scenarios, but without those, let's just say there would absolutely be defections going on.

How do you figure people like you would stand up to the #1 military in the world?




joether -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/16/2014 12:15:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: joether
Love to see those militias go up against the #1 military in the world.
There is little evidence to validate that opinion

There's a wealth of evidence.

How successful was the army in the phillipine insurrection?
How successful was the army in chasing down pancho villa?
How successful was the army in korea?
How succcessful was the army in cuba?
How successful was the army in viet nam?
How successful has the army been in the sand box?
All six of the above conflicts are against amatures.['/b]


What year are we in? 2014?

And all your examples have taken place....OUTSIDE....of the USA. It would be quite a bit different with the full resources of the US Government backing up that US Military. Not to mention the people of this nation would be absultely...LIVID....at those militias. The Republican/Tea Party (most especially the Tea Party) would be thrown out of Public Office before their term was over. Conservatives, unfortunately, would be caught in the middle. They are blamed for all of this, while at the same time, feeling like middle-eastern individuals shortly after 9/11 (rather ironic...).

There exist a good portion of people that are liberal, moderate, and even conservatives, that DONT want this shit to come into being. And they'll try to work together to find good common ground. Advert horrible things befalling this nation. To many people love this nation to see it being destroy due to political extremists.




Kirata -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/16/2014 1:30:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

What year are we in?

Few have said so much with so few words. [:D]

K.





thishereboi -> RE: Senseless Gun Violence -- Fearful Homeowner Kills Unarmed German Exchange Student (5/16/2014 4:06:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Anyone know any more news on whether this killer was stoned at the time he shot this kid and/or paranoid about his stash getting nicked from his garage? We only get the basic internet stuff here in the UK.




I haven't seen anything to indicate he was using drugs. But now that you have posted this I won't be a bit surprised to see someone else come along and claim it's a fact because they know they read it somewhere if they could only remember where......




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