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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

This is one of those times when I'm tempted to go back and read the entire thread, to try and figure out what the hell the basis of reasoning is behind the whole discussion on shooting feet stems from.

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I also have no desire to kill another human being, or to harm them for that matter. Be willing is not the same as wanting to. BTW a rifle is the last choice for home defense. Hard to use in a hallway or any relativly confined space and two much penetration. .22's are different usually light, small, and with little penetration.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

A whole lot of these last few pages is me poking fun at Thompson the bold typing internet bully.

You seem to think that internet bully is someone who takes you to task over the stupid remarks you post.
Such as your claim that it is illegal in fla to shoot to disable

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

Somewhere in the middle of the thread or so, someone said something about shooting at the center of mass in a self defense situation. Braggart and Blowhard John Wayne Thompson says he would be more humane and shoot the foot. When challenged that his silly notion was not only foolish but also a difficult shot to make at a moving target, he doubled down saying he could specify which toe. Someone further muddied the water by challenging John Wayne here to a bet and then demonstrate his remarkable talent. This demonstration thing further evolved into talk of putting money in escrow,my lawyer your lawyer ect blah blah blah.

As for myself, I'm pretty much not entertaining the bet/demonstration thing as it's a whole lot of crap talk and is never going to happen. But what I'm saying and everyone else here is saying,is that all practical shooting experts agree that shooting to wound is a bad idea. If you want a better idea, Google "shooting to wound is stupid".

A whole lot of these last few pages is me poking fun at Thompson the bold typing internet bully. If ya want to see what I mean by that just go look at most of everything else he posts on any other thread on the P&R forum.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Shooting to wound or to warn also, in court, lends credence to the idea that you didn't have fear for your life.

Really????how so???

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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I also have no desire to kill another human being, or to harm them for that matter. Be willing is not the same as wanting to. BTW a rifle is the last choice for home defense. Hard to use in a hallway or any relativly confined space and two much penetration. .22's are different usually light, small, and with little penetration.

My rifle is a small .22 single shot, bolt action. Barely little more than a handgun with a long stock and barrel, lol. While I like to shoot at targets, I don't hold any expectations of defending my home with it. Given that my flight response is WAY stronger than my fight response, I just keep my insurance paid and let them reimburse me for anything stolen - meanwhile my flight happy ass is probably out the window and hiding at the neighbors.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

I've always been taught that if you aim a gun at a living target, you shoot to kill. Which is why I don't have my rifles for home defense, and they are locked with the ammo locked away separately. I've no desire to ever kill a living human being.

Kay has a different philosophy. I told her I thought someone was in the basement and she asked, "Should I load the rifle?"

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

Somewhere in the middle of the thread or so, someone said something about shooting at the center of mass in a self defense situation. Braggart and Blowhard John Wayne Thompson says he would be more humane and shoot the foot. When challenged that his silly notion was not only foolish but also a difficult shot to make at a moving target, he doubled down saying he could specify which toe. Someone further muddied the water by challenging John Wayne here to a bet and then demonstrate his remarkable talent. This demonstration thing further evolved into talk of putting money in escrow,my lawyer your lawyer ect blah blah blah.

As for myself, I'm pretty much not entertaining the bet/demonstration thing as it's a whole lot of crap talk and is never going to happen. But what I'm saying and everyone else here is saying,is that all practical shooting experts agree that shooting to wound is a bad idea. If you want a better idea, Google "shooting to wound is stupid".

A whole lot of these last few pages is me poking fun at Thompson the bold typing internet bully. If ya want to see what I mean by that just go look at most of everything else he posts on any other thread on the P&R forum.

I have to admit, shooting at a moving target's foot requires way more skill than I would want to rely on for self defense. I've shot a running squirrel, but I'm chalking that up to chance, more so than skill. Yes. I'm from Louisiana. Squirrel was on the menu.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD

The sites I found using information from lawyers stated that while shooting to wound is not illegal per se,

Thank you for finally acknowledging that I was right that there is no law that prohibits shooting to disable.


it does you no good legally. A warning shot, in those places it isn't considered reckless endagerment, and a wound is usually considered to just be a bad shot. A wounded attacker gets to tell his side of the story (and you can be sure he won't say yep he was just minding his own business and had to shoot me when I tried to mug him) a dead one doesn't.


Once again thank you for admitting that one of the reasons you would shoot for com is to eliminate any witnesss.

Shooting to wound or to warn also, in court, lends credence to the idea that you didn't have fear for your life.

Really????how so???

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I also have no desire to kill another human being, or to harm them for that matter. Be willing is not the same as wanting to. BTW a rifle is the last choice for home defense. Hard to use in a hallway or any relativly confined space and two much penetration. .22's are different usually light, small, and with little penetration.

My rifle is a small .22 single shot, bolt action. Barely little more than a handgun with a long stock and barrel, lol. While I like to shoot at targets, I don't hold any expectations of defending my home with it. Given that my flight response is WAY stronger than my fight response, I just keep my insurance paid and let them reimburse me for anything stolen - meanwhile my flight happy ass is probably out the window and hiding at the neighbors.

That is your choice.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

No, it's your blustering snarky bold type posting style constantly insulting others and saying stuff like "Jesus you are phoquing stupid."


When you post unbelievably stupid statements like "it is illegal to shoot to disable in the state of florida" what else can anyone say besides ...
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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I also have no desire to kill another human being, or to harm them for that matter. Be willing is not the same as wanting to. BTW a rifle is the last choice for home defense. Hard to use in a hallway or any relativly confined space and two much penetration. .22's are different usually light, small, and with little penetration.

My rifle is a small .22 single shot, bolt action. Barely little more than a handgun with a long stock and barrel, lol. While I like to shoot at targets, I don't hold any expectations of defending my home with it. Given that my flight response is WAY stronger than my fight response, I just keep my insurance paid and let them reimburse me for anything stolen - meanwhile my flight happy ass is probably out the window and hiding at the neighbors.

That is your choice.

I like having the choice. Meanwhile, I live in a nice area with very little crime to minimize the chances of needing to make such decisions. Statistically, the average age of most home invaders is 14-16. I don't think I could live with myself if I shot a child.

I do have intentions of having an instructor at the gun range train me on a handgun. More so, because I'm irrationally afraid of them, and like to face my fears. Plus, I just like doing different things. Like training with a staff and hitting the hell outa things, learning what plants are edible and what are poisonous. Yes, I forage. Not out of necessity but because I like knowing I CAN.

Meh, I'm over sharing. I blame it on the crappy weather and cabin fever.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I also have no desire to kill another human being, or to harm them for that matter. Be willing is not the same as wanting to. BTW a rifle is the last choice for home defense. Hard to use in a hallway or any relativly confined space and two much penetration. .22's are different usually light, small, and with little penetration.

My rifle is a small .22 single shot, bolt action. Barely little more than a handgun with a long stock and barrel, lol. While I like to shoot at targets, I don't hold any expectations of defending my home with it. Given that my flight response is WAY stronger than my fight response, I just keep my insurance paid and let them reimburse me for anything stolen - meanwhile my flight happy ass is probably out the window and hiding at the neighbors.

That is your choice.

I like having the choice. Meanwhile, I live in a nice area with very little crime to minimize the chances of needing to make such decisions. Statistically, the average age of most home invaders is 14-16. I don't think I could live with myself if I shot a child.

I do have intentions of having an instructor at the gun range train me on a handgun. More so, because I'm irrationally afraid of them, and like to face my fears. Plus, I just like doing different things. Like training with a staff and hitting the hell outa things, learning what plants are edible and what are poisonous. Yes, I forage. Not out of necessity but because I like knowing I CAN.

Meh, I'm over sharing. I blame it on the crappy weather and cabin fever.