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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:15:24 PM   
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A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.

Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction

You really need to get a fucking grip.

K.


A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:15:48 PM   
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Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.



They have the same goal, to skew the results of an election fraudulently.


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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:23:00 PM   
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A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.

Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction

You really need to get a fucking grip.

A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

You really need to get a new dance instructor. Your current one is robbing you.

K.


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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:24:44 PM   
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A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.

Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction

You really need to get a fucking grip.

A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

You really need to get a new dance instructor. Your current one is robbing you.

So you lost. Way to admit it. dimwit. Way to waste 2 pages.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:31:34 PM   
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So you lost. Way to admit it. dimwit.


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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:48:50 PM   
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Sore loser much?

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 8:58:29 PM   
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So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.


sooo a mule isn't a living organism then?

1. the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey, valued as a work animal, having strong muscles, a body shaped like a horse, and donkey like long ears, small feet, and sure-footedness.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 9:20:06 PM   
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Once again... Voter fraud is not TINY or MINIMAL... there have been over 5000 reported cases of a "democratic voting initiative" changing the party of registered voters in just PA alone per the states attorneys office...

5000 in one state in less then 10 years ISNT tiny, and thats just something like changing someones party... Filthadelphia... had 110% democratic turn out in the 2012 elections....

So you claim. BTW that isn't vote fraud. No votes were cast.


Fraud-- is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain

I cant vote for my party in an election because of my party being changed....Which is an unfair and unlawful gain to the D party because I cant offer my support to the candidates that I want to... and my write in is unallowed because of my state laws. I can only vote for my "registered" party in my closed primary, so my writing in the candidate I wanted who didnt belong to my registered party, cast my vote as invalid which restricted my constitutionally protected right to vote

As I said previously Im getting a letter from my states attorneys office to persue legal action as well as take to the media....

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 9:27:29 PM   
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So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.


sooo a mule isn't a living organism then?

1. the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey, valued as a work animal, having strong muscles, a body shaped like a horse, and donkey like long ears, small feet, and sure-footedness.

A mule has reproductive organs and can reproduce. Do try to not be such a complete embarrassment.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 9:30:15 PM   
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oops wrong thread.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 9:32:13 PM   
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Notice how this fool has to respond to the same post over and over again but can't actually point out anything wrong with it?




The Irony of you replying your own post with the above... Priceless....


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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 5/31/2014 10:03:14 PM   
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A mule has reproductive organs and can reproduce. Do try to not be such a complete embarrassment.

There are no recorded cases of fertile mule stallions. ~Source

K.


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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 12:40:24 AM   
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Once again... Voter fraud is not TINY or MINIMAL... there have been over 5000 reported cases of a "democratic voting initiative" changing the party of registered voters in just PA alone per the states attorneys office...

5000 in one state in less then 10 years ISNT tiny, and thats just something like changing someones party... Filthadelphia... had 110% democratic turn out in the 2012 elections....


Reported cases? Reported by WHO?

I went looking for your "...110%..." number in Philadelphia, and got this for a result. That site also has many other examples circulating in the conservative blogosphere. Which is to show those sites as being stupid (for not checking their information) or deceptive (they did know, but figured conservatives/liberations are to stupid to check the info).

The 'Low Information Voter' seems to be voting Republican/Tea Party for the last few elections.....

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From the article I'm sourcing:

(The False Claim):
Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote.

(The Facts):
In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama did lose in every state that required all voters to provide photo ID, but those states were only four in number: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, and Tennessee. Meanwhile, contrary to what is claimed here, he also lost in many states that did not require all voters to provide photo ID: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota Texas, Utah, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

(NOTE: If you do not live in Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, or Tennessee, then your state did not require all voters to provide photo ID during the 2012 general election. As shown on a chart of Voter Identification Requirements by state, only those four states had strict photo ID laws in place during the 2012 general election. All other states either did not require voters to provide ID or accepted some forms of non-photo ID.)




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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 12:44:46 AM   
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The claim was that requiring id was a move to stop democrats from voting. If that is true then that means less democrats have id's than republicans. If you are going to make a claim, you need to back it up with some kind of proof. Now you say that the elderly have more problems but they are not all democrats so that doesn't prove anything. The poor have to have id to collect medicaid so that's not it. College students may lean left but not enough to make a difference and the republican ones would have the same problems so that's bullshit too. Now one poster did admit a while back that she was all for voter id requirements until she found out the right thought it was a good idea. It's probably the closest to the truth that I am going to get. The rest just keep singing "but it's to block democrats" because that is what there were taught to sing.

Republicans would not push for something unless they stood to gain from it politically (i.e. get more Republicans into office). Same as Democrats, right? However, Democrats are not the ones pushing for more strict requirements with voting. Since the amount of voter fraud is so tiny as to be rendered irrelevant to state and federal elections. The idea of Voter ID hinges on the false belief that voter fraud is rampant and destroying the nation. After all, some black guy got elected to the White House! And then got re-elected! That must mean (according to conservative/libertarian dogma) that there is something wrong with the voting process.

Republican/Tea Party are not looking for more people to vote, but less. The less that vote, the more wingnuts and lame-ass idiots get into office. So making it harder for people to vote, would be to their advantage. I pointed out the primary hurdles to the three largest groups that would be effected by this legal concept. You can deny it all you want, but it doesn't make it any less true. Finally...

...Voter ID violates my 4th amendment rights!

still can't answer the question I see...


In order to have a question, a question mark (?) needs to be part of the sentence asking the question. Do you see any question marks (?) in your 'essay'? 'No', because you were not asking a question, but making a statement.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 12:58:28 AM   
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Once again... Voter fraud is not TINY or MINIMAL... there have been over 5000 reported cases of a "democratic voting initiative" changing the party of registered voters in just PA alone per the states attorneys office...
5000 in one state in less then 10 years ISNT tiny, and thats just something like changing someones party... Filthadelphia... had 110% democratic turn out in the 2012 elections....


Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.

Fraudulent votes are things like someone voting who wasn't alive at the time of the election, or someone voting as someone else, or someone voting several times. But, those never happen. Except when they do.


You keep saying this wild belief, yet have not one shred of decent evidence to support it.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 2:36:19 AM   
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There is no in between, either it's dead or alive.


Viable, not alive. It is not life. Blastocyst? Embryo?

You suck up live chickens in an omelette do you? live beef in a ribeye?





No I don't eat live chickens or beef. That's beyond sick but since you seem to have the need to respond with extremes, I am not a bit surprised you would go there. If the fetus wasn't alive, it would not continue to grow. This isn't rocket science for fucks sake. Why do you have to be so pig headed.


How do we know it continued to grow? hey, an egg is alive, same condition. Don't be so fucking sick and extreme.

We are fuckin this dog on voter id, does the fuckin thing have voter id? Is it a citizen? Answer to both, no. Is it people? No, doesn't have rights under our constitution.




We know it continued to grow because 9 months later it was born. If it hadn't continued to grow the body would have flushed it out or the women would have to go in and have it removed.

And your right it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with voter id, but for some reason that hasn't stopped you from commenting on it.

Now don't keep me waiting, what really stupid thing are you going to come up with next.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 2:40:02 AM   
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So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.


Fetuses respond to their environment, if fact if it changes too drastically it can be killed by it. They are also reproducing cells as they grow so yes they do fit 6 and 7. But using your logic, kids can't reproduce until their bodies develop, are you going to claim they aren't alive yet either.

Dividing cells is not what the line is talking about. A child has the capacity to reproduce it is simply not yet ready. A fetus completely lacks the ability.


The child does not have the capacity to reproduce until their body is done developing. But keep spinning, it is amusing to watch.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 2:45:10 AM   
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The claim was that requiring id was a move to stop democrats from voting. If that is true then that means less democrats have id's than republicans. If you are going to make a claim, you need to back it up with some kind of proof. Now you say that the elderly have more problems but they are not all democrats so that doesn't prove anything. The poor have to have id to collect medicaid so that's not it. College students may lean left but not enough to make a difference and the republican ones would have the same problems so that's bullshit too. Now one poster did admit a while back that she was all for voter id requirements until she found out the right thought it was a good idea. It's probably the closest to the truth that I am going to get. The rest just keep singing "but it's to block democrats" because that is what there were taught to sing.

Republicans would not push for something unless they stood to gain from it politically (i.e. get more Republicans into office). Same as Democrats, right? However, Democrats are not the ones pushing for more strict requirements with voting. Since the amount of voter fraud is so tiny as to be rendered irrelevant to state and federal elections. The idea of Voter ID hinges on the false belief that voter fraud is rampant and destroying the nation. After all, some black guy got elected to the White House! And then got re-elected! That must mean (according to conservative/libertarian dogma) that there is something wrong with the voting process.

Republican/Tea Party are not looking for more people to vote, but less. The less that vote, the more wingnuts and lame-ass idiots get into office. So making it harder for people to vote, would be to their advantage. I pointed out the primary hurdles to the three largest groups that would be effected by this legal concept. You can deny it all you want, but it doesn't make it any less true. Finally...

...Voter ID violates my 4th amendment rights!

still can't answer the question I see...


In order to have a question, a question mark (?) needs to be part of the sentence asking the question. Do you see any question marks (?) in your 'essay'? 'No', because you were not asking a question, but making a statement.



the question was asked of dk a while back but apparently he couldn't come up with an answer and decided to show us how much he doesn't know about life. You jumped into the conversation but have also failed to answer it. And no, I am not a bit surprised.

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 5:01:35 AM   
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So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.


sooo a mule isn't a living organism then?

1. the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey, valued as a work animal, having strong muscles, a body shaped like a horse, and donkey like long ears, small feet, and sure-footedness.

A mule has reproductive organs and can reproduce. Do try to not be such a complete embarrassment.



sorry NO it has the organs BUT CANNOT REPRODUCE, being a hybrid of a horse and donkey their DNA is screwed up and CANNOT REPRODUCE

TRY not to use INSULTS as a valid argument! they ARE NOT!

BTW the only person who EBMARRESSED themselves just now was YOU, mules CAN NOT REPRODUCE....

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RE: Oops. Voter ID advocate Asa Hutchinson forgets Vote... - 6/1/2014 5:10:03 AM   
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Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.


Citation?


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