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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.

They have the same goal, to skew the results of an election fraudulently.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.

Fetuses respond to their environment, if fact if it changes too drastically it can be killed by it. They are also reproducing cells as they grow so yes they do fit 6 and 7. But using your logic, kids can't reproduce until their bodies develop, are you going to claim they aren't alive yet either.

Dividing cells is not what the line is talking about. A child has the capacity to reproduce it is simply not yet ready. A fetus completely lacks the ability.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.

sooo a mule isn't a living organism then?

1. the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey, valued as a work animal, having strong muscles, a body shaped like a horse, and donkey like long ears, small feet, and sure-footedness.

A mule has reproductive organs and can reproduce. Do try to not be such a complete embarrassment.

sorry NO it has the organs BUT CANNOT REPRODUCE, being a hybrid of a horse and donkey their DNA is screwed up and CANNOT REPRODUCE

TRY not to use INSULTS as a valid argument! they ARE NOT!

BTW the only person who EBMARRESSED themselves just now was YOU, mules CAN NOT REPRODUCE....

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.

Citation?

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.

Fetuses respond to their environment, if fact if it changes too drastically it can be killed by it. They are also reproducing cells as they grow so yes they do fit 6 and 7. But using your logic, kids can't reproduce until their bodies develop, are you going to claim they aren't alive yet either.

Dividing cells is not what the line is talking about. A child has the capacity to reproduce it is simply not yet ready. A fetus completely lacks the ability.

sorry but that SAME LOGIC applies to a fetus, if allowed to continue living a fetus will ALSO DEVELOPE the ability to reproduce. it no more LACKS THE ABILITY than a 2 yr old, who ALSO will DEVELOPE that ability years later

what was it you said about being an EMBARESSMENT?

BTW when you say dividing cells does not count in your PROOF OF LIFE theory, you then say all cellular organisms who REPRODUCE by cell division are ALSO NOT ALIVE...

you just claimed a great HOST of living things that reproduce threw cell division are NOT ALIVE


http://www.ehow.com/info_8758003_list-asexually-reproducing-organisms.html

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.
Fraudulent votes are things like someone voting who wasn't alive at the time of the election, or someone voting as someone else, or someone voting several times. But, those never happen. Except when they do.

You keep saying this wild belief, yet have not one shred of decent evidence to support it.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

So you don't know and are too stupid to use Google.

A living organism is defined by 8 characteristics
1) All living things are highly organized and contain many complex chemical substances.
2) All living things contain one or more cells.
3) All living things use energy.
4) Living things have a definite form and have a limited size.
5) Living things grow.
6) Living things respond to changes in the environment.
7) Living things can reproduce.
8) Living things eventually die.
 
A fetus fails both 6 and 7 so technically it is not alive. It may eventually be alive but at the fetus stage it is not yet fully alive.

sooo a mule isn't a living organism then?

1. the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey, valued as a work animal, having strong muscles, a body shaped like a horse, and donkey like long ears, small feet, and sure-footedness.

A mule has reproductive organs and can reproduce. Do try to not be such a complete embarrassment.

sorry NO it has the organs BUT CANNOT REPRODUCE, being a hybrid of a horse and donkey their DNA is screwed up and CANNOT REPRODUCE

TRY not to use INSULTS as a valid argument! they ARE NOT!

BTW the only person who EBMARRESSED themselves just now was YOU, mules CAN NOT REPRODUCE....

Dumbass
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1289946/

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.
Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction
You really need to get a fucking grip.
K.

A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.

Citation?

Already provided. Until a fetus is viable it is not technically an organism separate from it's mother.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.

Citation?

Already provided. Until a fetus is viable it is not technically an organism separate from it's mother.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.
Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction
You really need to get a fucking grip.
K.

A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

http://www.baby2see.com/gender/external_genitals.html

http://www.baby2see.com/gender/internal_genitals.html

http://health.howstuffworks.com/pregnancy-and-parenting/pregnancy/conception/human-reproduction1.htm

Here we see that a fetus will have "all the organs needed to reproduce," and that "the organs simply must mature."

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.

Citation?

Already provided. Until a fetus is viable it is not technically an organism separate from it's mother.

hmmm until a fetus is viable separate from its mother its not alive

I submit that a fetus could be implanted in an artificial womb AKA surrogate mother and survive, matter of a fact its been done many times, the fertilized egg of a woman is implanted in another womb and survives

can it survive without any support, NOO but them neither can a new born baby

just because a fetus would require more extensive support doesn't change the FACT that both a fetus and new born require SUPPORT to remain viable

nice try though

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.

They have the same goal, to skew the results of an election fraudulently.

Call a spade a spade. If it's not a spade, don't call it a spade. Registration fraud isn't voter fraud, but that's not to say that it isn't fraud

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
A child has the capacity to reproduce

A pre-pubescent child does not have the capacity to reproduce.
Puberty is the process of physical changes by which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction
You really need to get a fucking grip.
K.

A pre pubescent child has all the organs needed to reproduce. the organs simply must mature. You really should learn biology.

http://www.baby2see.com/gender/external_genitals.html
http://www.baby2see.com/gender/internal_genitals.html
http://health.howstuffworks.com/pregnancy-and-parenting/pregnancy/conception/human-reproduction1.htm
Here we see that a fetus will have "all the organs needed to reproduce," and that "the organs simply must mature."

will have is not the same as has.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Voter registration fraud isn't the same thing as voter fraud. Fraudulent registrations aren't fraudulent votes.

They have the same goal, to skew the results of an election fraudulently.

Call a spade a spade. If it's not a spade, don't call it a spade. Registration fraud isn't voter fraud, but that's not to say that it isn't fraud

Use your head instead of clichés.
That's exactly what I just said. The intent is to sway the election in ways other than swaying voters' minds.
But while you're on this, that's also exactly the problem with your arguments -- you ignore the larger context, in this case, the partisan motivation of the Republicans -- and the registration fraud occurring on both sides.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/2421595/investigation-into-trashed-voter-registrations

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Nice backpedal.

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Too bad. The US Constitution and a whole bunch of court rulings says it is

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Wrong. A fetus may eventually become an organism that can reproduce but it is not itself an organism that can reproduce. It is not an organism at all in the technical sense.

Citation?

Already provided. Until a fetus is viable it is not technically an organism separate from it's mother.