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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

And you sound like a bleeding heart pain in the ass. Seriously...

Im a 6 foot 2 black man with an 18 inch penis... Regardless of the fact Im Not... I said it on the internet so it must be true....

I take issue with the story as there are no really good (read top medical care) hospitals in cardiology for kids in CA That specialize in the condition the "kid" has. All of them are on the east coast....

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

we don't pay shit.

(Thank you....whoever you are).

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ORIGINAL: punisher440

FR
I clicked on an old email notice and got directed to the blog Tiffany started on the old domain and read this interesting post in response to her blog....which I happen to agree with.

"Until you give the accused equal exposure, on this forum, you cannot ever validate anything you are saying. It could very well be that you are in fact a jilted lover who is only out to seek revenge, and not caring about all the thousands of people you affect in the process, or it could be that everything you have stated, as you have stated it is absolutely true. We cannot ever know because all the evidence required to make an informed opinion is not available to all of us, nor will it ever be.

To make this all public disgusts me. Airing dirty laundry is never the proper way to go about getting what is rightfully yours, even if it honestly is.

And what disgusts me further is that you are using your daughters ailment to justify your taking the site down. With all due respect, and I feel horrible about what your daughter suffers from and how it must affect you personally, this post was not the place for that information. You certainly do not want your daughters information to be associated with the history of collarme. That is something that will follow her around for life.

You affected thousands of people, in a negative way, and the only reason any of them are not saying what I am is because you pulled the “my daughter suffers from a serious medical condition” card. Otherwise, if we were to remove that information, what you have stated would never justify putting so many people out in the cold.

If you are going to commit to providing a space for people to connect, specially when it’s so difficult to do so in real life, then don’t change your mind because things get hard and take the site down to exact your own personal flavor of revenge. What about the other people who work for collarme? Do you honestly think that the site will ever be able to attract advertisers ever again? And if you put up another site, do you honestly think, given your inclination to take a site down because of emotional reasons, that anyone would invest, or advertise with you again?

You’re crazy if you do, if I were an advertiser, I wouldn’t want to be associated with someone’s petty squabbles or personal drama. I certainly wouldn’t want to be associated with a site like collarme, if I am selling goods and services, that brings babies into a personal fight with a business associate. That’s just sick.

The more I think about this entire dramatic situation, the more I am realizing that regardless if or not what you have stated is the absolute truth, you still never should have exposed it on public forum, you should never have brought your baby daughter into this mess, and you certainly should not have murdered the only method you will ever be paid by, that being the website and the money generated with ads.

And I think if you consult with a lawyer, you w ill find that doing what you have done, ruining the businesses ability to generate income and operate, will in the end enable the people who actually own collarme to sue you instead. I would think very carefully on this point, because regardless if the website is in your name or not, if it can be proven in court, that the actual business is owned by someone else, the website follows. If the name is trademarked, even if you own the website, it can be taken away from you. It would be just like a company like AT&T owning their name, and someone else buying AT&T.com. AT&T would sue, and win the rights to the website. There are numerous cases of exactly this all over the internet if you just simply google, and read them.

Phffft, I am thoroughly and utterly disgusted, Your “partner” has yet to say anything in response, I am not sure if that’s just because they are less inclined to drama, or they are running away from it but whatever the reasons, I prefer that over this.

How very sad that you chose to affect so many good people with your personal life in such a horribly negative way."

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

we don't pay shit.

(Thank you....whoever you are).

yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent..

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

we don't pay shit.

(Thank you....whoever you are).

yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent..

I think the safety of information with CollarMe that you allude to is a bit of a non sequitur. For the latter bit? I see it more a result of greed than of incompetence. Although I suppose one can easily view greed as a form of incompetence.

That's why I use cash and pre-paid gift credit cards. I've been told I'm paranoid by a lot of people and I know those actions don't preclude the possibility of having my personal information stolen, but at least it's one less avenue for it to happen.

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Why do you agree with it?

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

we don't pay shit.

(Thank you....whoever you are).

yeah, we don't pay anything.. if we did then these two and who knows how many others would have access to our credit card info, banking info, our real names, addresses, etc.. with all the drama going on here, how comfortable with that would any of us be? You cant trust any business with your info anymore, the Target breach and the Experion fiasco, etc, etc, etc have shown us how vulnerable we are if those people running the business are incompetent..

I think the safety of information with CollarMe that you allude to is a bit of a non sequitur. For the latter bit? I see it more a result of greed than of incompetence. Although I suppose one can easily view greed as a form of incompetence.

That's why I use cash and pre-paid gift credit cards. I've been told I'm paranoid by a lot of people and I know those actions don't preclude the possibility of having my personal information stolen, but at least it's one less avenue for it to happen.

you can use prepaid cards in a fake name and protect yourself even more that way also.. I don't think that's paranoid at all, given the number of breaches and how reluctant those companies are to let those affected know.. So they give you a "free" year of credit monitoring, big deal..

and it is only cuz the site is free that we don't really have much to worry about.. of course if the new site decided to no longer be free and start charging.. well.. If it is true that the owner doesn't honor his contracts & obligations then how can he/they be trusted? If the reason for non-payment of the contract was money problems and the site "not making enough" then its entirely possible that it goes from free to paying..

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ORIGINAL: punisher440

Dev,the ONLY reason I see for her even mentioning her child was to slant public opinion for what appears to be a highly questionable move on her part. Of course I feel sympathy for any child ,or adult for that matter,that has severe health issues. But throwing that out to try to cover up her actions is a lot like a parent in a messy divorce using their kids as bargaining chips to get what they want.

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GOOD QUESTION! The answer is YES! Instead of going hand over fist to blackmail the site owner, she could have posted for FREE on gofundme.com where people have received HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for this specific thing. Medical condition of a child. So it seems that her intentions were more selfish than most people realize who sympathize with her excuse for doing THIS to the online BDSM community. WHY NOT EXHAUST ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS BEFORE DOING SOMETHING THIS DRASTIC, IRREVERSIBLE AND CONTEMPTUOUS?????
Apparently if she can't get her way, we ALL have to deal with the consequences. CLEARLY, she's the victim here...

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ORIGINAL: punisher440

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Why do you agree with it?

Well Lookie, I'm not going to break it down line by line but I will cover the basics here. First off we only have her word that any of this is true, for all we really know she has made up every word of it. I've never been a fan of airing dirty laundry in public no matter who's underwear gets ran up the flag pole. The actions of Tiffany has and will in the future effect the ability of the site to generate revenues and if she was truly concerned about revenues, going through legal channels is how most people handle business disputes and not try to sway public opinion via a blog post.

With the male owner able to switch over and keep the site up and running tells me he is the owner of the site, no matter who wrestled control of the old domain name away over on what appears to be GoDaddy. And if he is the one actually running and controlling the servers, just who do you think really owns the place?

Like I've said in an earlier post, I would like to hear both sides of this story but with the probable legal actions that might be going on behind the scenes I am not holding my breath. But the way this was handled by Tiffany seems to be highly questionable if not outright illegal. If she was going by the book here, I am sure there should have been some form of arbitration and if that failed then a court case. What happened was she tried a take over and tried having a trial in the court of public opinion by playing the sympathy card after trying to shut the site down and then blaming the Eric for making her do it.

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

If.

Not a fact. If.

Based on the last 15 plus years I'd venture a guess that he or she has it worked out fairly well as to not charging anyone a gawdamned dime annnnnnnnnnd........if they (he or she) did....we get (as users) this amazing option:

Choice.

EVERYONE take a valium!

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

If.

Not a fact. If.

Based on the last 15 plus years I'd venture a guess that he or she has it worked out fairly well as to not charging anyone a gawdamned dime annnnnnnnnnd........if they (he or she) did....we get (as users) this amazing option:

Choice.

EVERYONE take a valium!

"past performance is no guarantee of future results".. considering that there has been a fair amount of drama lately, past problems with the site, Mod turmoil, etc, and now this.. performance is certainly going downhill!..

I am not worried about the new site running out of money or charging, since I wouldn't be a pay piggy anyway.. and as I have said before, this site/forum isn't the only gig in town.. But when I look at a situation, its good to look at all the possibilities, think about what my reaction would be to each, then I am prepared for that event, should it ever occur.. Sometimes I just like to bring up things/possibilities that most people hadn't thought of..

I will say this tho, my view/opinion of this site now is very different.. its lost a lot of credibility, its lost my trust, and the "face/faces" behind the site are now visible with not a very pretty picture, and I see this site as having lost professionalism..

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Someone's watching?!!?!?



**Officially creeped out**

Ahem.

:P