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I suppose it's possible that this murderer may have been influenced by the Men's Rights Movement, although he was clearly troubled and needed help. The video was definitely disturbing (reposted on the CNN site). One of the fathers of the victims blamed the NRA.

I don't know what kind of home life or upbringing this person had, although that's usually a good place to start to checking to find out what made someone turn out that way.

One thing that struck me about the video is that this kid was pissed off because he was struggling to be accepted by a crowd that didn't accept him.

maybe he wasn't accepted cuz he was a narcissistic creep and he came across as that.. I expect he was miffed cuz the hot blondes didn't find him attractive and he wasn't interested in the Plain Jane's.. he calls himself the "supreme gentleman" but gentlemen don't go shooting up a campus..

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Last night a tragically clueless young man killed 6 people and then himself at UC Santa Barbara. Apparently due to his involvement in the men's rights movement. He posted a truly disturbing video to youtube complaining that he was still a virgin and that it was the fault of the women and not at all that he was an incredibly creepy guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv5Vpa-B-0

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I suppose it's possible that this murderer may have been influenced by the Men's Rights Movement, although he was clearly troubled and needed help. The video was definitely disturbing (reposted on the CNN site). One of the fathers of the victims blamed the NRA.

I don't know what kind of home life or upbringing this person had, although that's usually a good place to start to checking to find out what made someone turn out that way.

One thing that struck me about the video is that this kid was pissed off because he was struggling to be accepted by a crowd that didn't accept him.

maybe he wasn't accepted cuz he was a narcissistic creep and he came across as that.. I expect he was miffed cuz the hot blondes didn't find him attractive and he wasn't interested in the Plain Jane's.. he calls himself the "supreme gentleman" but gentlemen don't go shooting up a campus..

I sometimes wonder just how much kids are taught how to cope or how to have basic social skills. I'm a bit older now, so I don't know how it is these days, but I remember how some kids used to think it was the end of the world to not be accepted by the so-called "in crowd" or the "cool kids." There's peer pressure, as well as pressures from family - and even pressure from popular culture itself. I don't know if that creates the sense of narcissistic entitlement which seems to have been going through this kid's mind, but I would think it's a possibility. After reading a bit more about this kid's family background (separated from his birth mother from Malaysia, born in London, father in show business, step-mother from Morocco) a lot of rootlessness and family instability seems evident.

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Drive-by knifings are tricky, I'll agree, Muse (maybe with a machete or sword, and an enthusiastic partner), but running them down with the car works just fine.

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Perhaps it's a sign of his mental illness that this didn't occur to him.

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I don't think all that many kids today are narcissistic, but imo this guy was.. the way he talks about himself in his vid.. I think he wanted to date the hot chicks.. good looking people tend to date other good looking people.. imo many men think they can date women that aren't their attractiveness match, not even close.. a girl that's a 9 isn't gonna date a guy that's a 3.. There are exceptions, I suppose, never could understand Sandra Bullock being married to that Jesse dude who imo was very unattractive.. But that's why some guys make tons of money instead to compensate for their less attractive appearance.. then they can get hot chicks/gold diggers.. Some guys just don't get that they are aiming too high and get all butt hurt & bitter cuz of it, to me that's what happened to this guy.. except he took his butt hurtness to an extreme..

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Kids that think its the end of the world to not be accepted into whatever clique they want to be a part of are stupid followers... that is how kids get into all sorts of trouble, like getting drunk, doing drugs, etc.. I rejected that shite when I was a kid, before I was even a teenager.. imo parents need to instill individuality in their kids, teach them that they don't need to sell themselves out to join some group.. teach them to be their own person.. and that if others cant accept them as they are then they are not worth having as a friend or anyone to associate with.. jmo..

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Although thinking about the idea of a woman who is a 9 not dating a guy who is a 3, it made me think that a lot of guys may not actually know where they rate. A guy might be a 3 but thinks he's a 10, which is where some of that narcissism comes in.

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Although thinking about the idea of a woman who is a 9 not dating a guy who is a 3, it made me think that a lot of guys may not actually know where they rate. A guy might be a 3 but thinks he's a 10, which is where some of that narcissism comes in.

I must admit, from the video, this kid seemed to have looks, anyway. He just didn't have the personality requirements.

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I agree ^, I thought he looked just fine. If he couldn't get a single date in his brief adult life with that acceptable appearance, he must have really given off a bad vibe.

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Although thinking about the idea of a woman who is a 9 not dating a guy who is a 3, it made me think that a lot of guys may not actually know where they rate. A guy might be a 3 but thinks he's a 10, which is where some of that narcissism comes in.

I must admit, from the video, this kid seemed to have looks, anyway. He just didn't have the personality requirements.

hmm.. maybe he was short.. that would be a pretty big negative in the rating dept.. or he wasn't on the football team (being on the football team can up a dude's rating to some women).. To me tho he sorta has a feminine or baby face? and what kinda chicks was he trying to date? even if he was a 5 or a 6, a girl that's a 10 is outta his league.. or maybe his best pick-up line was something like "hey baby, wanna fuck?".. a guys rating can drop fast if there is a creep factor coming across from the guy, which he does have listening to his vid, imo..

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Well, since you brought up the well-worn subject, TH:

"They talk about gun rights, what about Chris' right to live? When will this insanity stop?"

- Richard Martinez, father of murdered student Christopher Michael-Martinez"

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But, the brass tacks of the situation are simple; a young man went on a killing spree and is now, dead.

The universe loves justice.



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