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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: MsNymph
I have no idea what post you are referring to, please point it out if it does exist.

I find it hard to believe that this request is a serious one, but ok. I'm talking about your currently-active thread in Ask A Submissive, where you state that you have no idea what to provide as a reward for an online slave.

In my world, before asking anyone for money, I need to be trained, certified, and to come with references. I consider anything less to be unprofessional at best. You, by contrast, are making it up as you go along, much like the pouting 20-somethings who call men losers once a month so they can pay their rent. I think it's likely that, far from being a financial dominant, you are a financial sub to something, whether it's an expensive relationship, or your unexpected underemployment or unemployment.

All that said, I would never send someone a message out of the blue unless it was a positive one. You, by contrast, posted on a public forum, wanting to know why people might think "your kink is not ok." So I figured I'd tell you what I see. I don't think you're engaging in a kink at all; I think you're trying to create a survival strategy. Speaking only for myself, my ethics would not permit me to experiment on other human beings while taking money from them at the same time.

You did ask.

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ORIGINAL: MsNymph
Obviously you have NOT read my profile here, so the rest of your ramblings are irrelevant.

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I'm sorry, but it really still amazes me how ill mannered some people can be.

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A few months ago, there was a guy on here who was a recovering alcoholic, his mistress knew this and wanted to force him to drink because she was his dominant and what she said goes.

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ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

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A few months ago, there was a guy on here who was a recovering alcoholic, his mistress knew this and wanted to force him to drink because she was his dominant and what she said goes.

I have a serious question for you, but do you think that any person, who knows that their submissive / slave has health issues like this, shouldn't be called on the carpet for demanding their slave do things which are harmful to that persons health no matter what the Domme or Dom wants?

I would also ask this of any other health issue, for example a person is allergic to peanuts but the Mistress or Master upon learning of this decided to order their slave to be in the presence, the aroma of peanut oil? Or, for those who need, according to every reputable doctor and health care worker to lose weight but the Mistress / Master want their slave to be morbidly obese and there could be hundreds of examples,

Are not these type of persons

A: both irresponsible and to a sense criminally negligent and need to be called on the carpet, both in the kink community and then by the legal community as well?

B. Is there a kink which says one has the right to put another persons in health beccause that gives pleasure or that is the kink of the mistress or master as the case may be?

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In the end aren't ultimately responsible for are our wellbeing?

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ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

I have a serious question for you, but do you think that any person, who knows that their submissive / slave has health issues like this, shouldn't be called on the carpet for demanding their slave do things which are harmful to that persons health no matter what the Domme or Dom wants?

I would also ask this of any other health issue, for example a person is allergic to peanuts but the Mistress or Master upon learning of this decided to order their slave to be in the presence, the aroma of peanut oil? Or, for those who need, according to every reputable doctor and health care worker to lose weight but the Mistress / Master want their slave to be morbidly obese and there could be hundreds of examples,

Are not these type of persons

A: both irresponsible and to a sense criminally negligent and need to be called on the carpet, both in the kink community and then by the legal community as well?

B. Is there a kink which says one has the right to put another persons in health beccause that gives pleasure or that is the kink of the mistress or master as the case may be?

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

@Gauge

Very well said!! Although you lost me at the end when you said "Financial Domination is one of those kinks that gets abused mainly because it involves money for very little work". Since when did BDSM become work and the judging of a kink is based on how much work you have to put into it. For those of us truly into the legitimate kink of financial domination, we don't look at it as work at all. It is who we are and what we are attracted to, it is not work. If it were only about the money then that is prodom or theft, but that is not financial domination. Just because their are people who pervert a true kink for their gain does not make it any less legit kink.

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ORIGINAL: HausVonHerrin

Judging someone else's kink to be abusive is a slippery slope. The example above is extreme but could be justified. If someone has a slave who is alcoholic but they have been working on building trust and faith in one another for a while and the object of a 'scene' is to expand that trust and open new horizons it could be possible to have her take a drink and use her newly found internal skills in M/s to overcome her desire to drink further. If it works she is stronger and more devoted as a slave.

I have done similar things, taught slaves to use their breathe to get through intense pain and then administered a beating with the instruction to specifically NOT breath through the pain but experience it all. It's scary and difficult but if it works turns out to be a growing experience for the M/s dynamic.

We all have watched someone else's scene and first reaction is 'OMG... that's abusive' but often when we get to know what's going on it's actually beautiful. We can learn a lot as spectators in those situations. I really try not to throw stones for that reason. Watching someone else get pushed to their limits may be scary and look like abuse but it can also be awe inspiring if we have an open mind. As long as they clean up the blood afterward [;)]

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Part of being a Dom is knowing what you are dealing with.

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ORIGINAL: MsNymph

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: MsNymph
I have no idea what post you are referring to, please point it out if it does exist.

I find it hard to believe that this request is a serious one, but ok. I'm talking about your currently-active thread in Ask A Submissive, where you state that you have no idea what to provide as a reward for an online slave.

In my world, before asking anyone for money, I need to be trained, certified, and to come with references. I consider anything less to be unprofessional at best. You, by contrast, are making it up as you go along, much like the pouting 20-somethings who call men losers once a month so they can pay their rent. I think it's likely that, far from being a financial dominant, you are a financial sub to something, whether it's an expensive relationship, or your unexpected underemployment or unemployment.

All that said, I would never send someone a message out of the blue unless it was a positive one. You, by contrast, posted on a public forum, wanting to know why people might think "your kink is not ok." So I figured I'd tell you what I see. I don't think you're engaging in a kink at all; I think you're trying to create a survival strategy. Speaking only for myself, my ethics would not permit me to experiment on other human beings while taking money from them at the same time.

You did ask.

Yes, I did ask that question in that section, and that is because all of my previous experience has been face to face, not online. I was asking for suggestions from those that would best be able to answer, who might possibly be in an online dynamic, and be a sub/slave.

Obviously you have NOT read my profile here, so the rest of your ramblings are irrelevant.

MN