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thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:34:00 PM)

ORIGINAL: HunterCA

While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life.

This implies that you have read darwin's origin of species. Have you?








Musicmystery -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 1:55:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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Evolution never happened either, I'm told.

The world is a very simple place. People lived with the dinosaurs.

Thank God you geniuses are here to 'splain it to me!

Much gratitude.




While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life. It explains how an already existent life evolves to deal with stress.


Additionally, there has been some fascinating microbiology studies that suggest Darwinism may not be the total solution to evaluation. I'll leave you to google that. So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life. Frankly we don't know and we all choose up sides and want our exclusive version told in school.

That nicely explains why Americans are stupid about science.

No scientist, ever, including Darwin, said "this is the total solution" about anything.

That's a key difference between science and ideology.

Doesn't matter *which* "side" you take -- either way, so not science.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 2:01:29 PM)


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A nutsacker blog is certainly settled science. It is lies based on creating this thing called 'leftists' and creating this thing they 'say all the time' which they dont, it is an ineffective smear by way of strawman. (settled ubiquitously, without let or hindrance.)

I mean we understand they say stupid shit, no need to point out every incident.




Thanks jester, you forward my points so well. Now take your meds.


That is weapons grade fuckin stupid.

You got no points, you live in the nutsacker bizzaro world of hallucination and lies.

But there are many nutsackers suffering from Dunning-Kruger. These geysers of stupidity, who suffer the Dunning–Kruger effect which is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self. The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, in oneself and others.

Despite very obviously not knowing what they are doing, they become surpassingly arrogant and refuse to admit they don’t know what they are doing. And the last few years have been unnaturally kind to America's willfully ignorant.

The commercial media has taken moron-coddling these cretins to a new level. Faux Nuze and such as Rush Limbaugh have provided aid, comfort, voice and encouragement to America's once (wisely) silent-and-moronic demographic, treating these maladroits diarrhetic cants as 'fair and balanced'. No longer an oxymoron, it's a growing political movement i.e., Palin, Bachmann, et al.

Now the dumb-and-dumbers out there not only believe the unbelievable, the unverifiable and the unreal, they believe it all with prideful swagger and aggressive obnoxiousness.


Morons beware. You will be challenged, and challenged publicly.

If you want to fight terrorists who have already caused more damage to America than bin Laden could dream of, then tackle the terror of politically empowered ignorance that's alive and well right here at home.





Thanks jester. You illustrate my point so well. Now take your meds.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 2:07:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Evolution never happened either, I'm told.

The world is a very simple place. People lived with the dinosaurs.

Thank God you geniuses are here to 'splain it to me!

Much gratitude.




While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life. It explains how an already existent life evolves to deal with stress.


Additionally, there has been some fascinating microbiology studies that suggest Darwinism may not be the total solution to evaluation. I'll leave you to google that. So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life. Frankly we don't know and we all choose up sides and want our exclusive version told in school.

That nicely explains why Americans are stupid about science.

No scientist, ever, including Darwin, said "this is the total solution" about anything.

That's a key difference between science and ideology.

Doesn't matter *which* "side" you take -- either way, so not science.


I think the point you're missing is that most people in the world are ignorant of science. They all rely on scientists working within an enlightened arenas. What we have here is the left politicizing science and the right religiousfying (if that's a word) science. It doesn't matter that you take marketing instead of physics as long as science is done in a non political way.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 2:08:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: HunterCA

While I've never read a "There is no evolution textbook" and have no opinion on that. I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life.

This implies that you have read darwin's origin of species. Have you?








While I don't think I implied anything, it was required reading in my sophomore year of highschool manny years ago.




mnottertail -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 2:32:16 PM)

Did you do that as you caucused in the minneapolis airport bathroom? Are you on some medication only available to those like you who can never dwell outside institutionalization?




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 3:05:47 PM)

ORIGINAL: HunterCA

While I don't think I implied anything,

When you comment on darwin that implies that you have read his work. I would be reticent to discuss this rather lengthy work with someone who had not read it.


it was required reading in my sophomore year of highschool manny years ago.


This also implies but does not state that you have read origin of species. Lets go with you have. How do you feel about his treatment of the concept of the soul?




chatterbox24 -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 3:06:15 PM)

Wow prayer sure is making these crystals pretty over here...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

[:D]








HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 3:31:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: HunterCA

While I don't think I implied anything,

When you comment on darwin that implies that you have read his work. I would be reticent to discuss this rather lengthy work with someone who had not read it.


it was required reading in my sophomore year of highschool manny years ago.


This also implies but does not state that you have read origin of species. Lets go with you have. How do you feel about his treatment of the concept of the soul?



First, I don't think I offered you a discussion on a book I read something like 40 years ago.

Second, I don't remember that Origin of Species treats souls at all.

If you'd like to postulate something specific for us to discuss, perhaps you'll place that into the public discourse first.




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 3:45:47 PM)


ORIGINAL: HunterCA


First, I don't think I offered you a discussion on a book I read something like 40 years ago.


You made comment on darwin and his theories. If you feel unable or unwilling to validate your ignorant opinions I would conclude that your knowledge of the book you claim to have read some 40 years ago is non existant.

Second, I don't remember that Origin of Species treats souls at all.

Perhaps it was "the voyage of the beagle" which is more commonly a high school text than is the more complex "origin of specie.

If you'd like to postulate something specific for us to discuss, perhaps you'll place that into the public discourse first.

I believe what I have postulated and you have proved is that you have no clue as to what darwin theories are.




HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 3:59:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: HunterCA


First, I don't think I offered you a discussion on a book I read something like 40 years ago.


You made comment on darwin and his theories. If you feel unable or unwilling to validate your ignorant opinions I would conclude that your knowledge of the book you claim to have read some 40 years ago is non existant.

Second, I don't remember that Origin of Species treats souls at all.

Perhaps it was "the voyage of the beagle" which is more commonly a high school text than is the more complex "origin of specie.

If you'd like to postulate something specific for us to discuss, perhaps you'll place that into the public discourse first.

I believe what I have postulated and you have proved is that you have no clue as to what darwin theories are.



There you go big guy. Ridicule is your forte! I never claimed expertise in Darwin. I never made any such claim. I've freely discussed science and offered my opinions there. None of which you've chosen to discuss. I haven't ridiculed you for that. But if you wish I will.


I will admit I've enjoyed watching you try and bait me into a place you could ridicule instead of join discussions with me on topics I've postulated on.


Which pretty much, again, demonstrates the leftist mind as I've postulated quite a bit.




thompsonx -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 4:15:04 PM)

ORIGINAL: HunterCA
There you go big guy. Ridicule is your forte!


No ridicule at all just an observation of fact.

I never claimed expertise in Darwin. I never made any such claim.

You seem to feel expert enough to say this.

I do note that Darwinism and evolution per se do not explain the origin of life.


If one had read anything by darwin they would know that he never claimed to and yet you chuck out this red hearing as if you had some faint inkling of what this man has written.



I've freely discussed science and offered my opinions there.

You have yet to discuss science but your ignorant opinions are here for all to laugh at.


None of which you've chosen to discuss.

I have explaned the inadaquacies of your opinions.



Which pretty much, again, demonstrates the leftist mind as I've postulated quite a bit.

Instead of discussing science you choose to discuss your opinions about the mythical left/right paradigm.





HunterCA -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 4:55:56 PM)

That's so typical. My Red Hearing. That's your twisted mind reading things not there. You are the evil you think.




deathtothepixies -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 5:01:43 PM)


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So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.


Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 5:43:39 PM)


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So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.

Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend

Yeah well, the stories have different forms, but either way something outside space and time and beyond all known laws of physics caused the universe to come into existence. Both sound kinda spooky to me.

K.





deathtothepixies -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 6:04:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.

Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend

Yeah well, the stories have different forms, but either way something outside space and time and beyond all known laws of physics caused the universe to come into existence. Both sound kinda spooky to me.

K.



only one of the above is a story, the other is a attempt to understand and gain knowledge, one of those two possibilities leads us forward, the other leaves us stagnating. However spooky it may be to some the more curious minds will carry on exploring




DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 7:01:28 PM)

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So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.

Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend

Yeah well, the stories have different forms, but either way something outside space and time and beyond all known laws of physics caused the universe to come into existence. Both sound kinda spooky to me.

K.



only one of the above is a story, the other is a attempt to understand and gain knowledge, one of those two possibilities leads us forward, the other leaves us stagnating. However spooky it may be to some the more curious minds will carry on exploring

This.




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 7:02:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies
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So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.

Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend

Yeah well, the stories have different forms, but either way something outside space and time and beyond all known laws of physics caused the universe to come into existence. Both sound kinda spooky to me.

only one of the above is a story, the other is a attempt to understand and gain knowledge, one of those two possibilities leads us forward, the other leaves us stagnating. However spooky it may be to some the more curious minds will carry on exploring

It may please you to believe that, but they're both just stories. One is a story about how a theoretical "singularity" was the source of the Universe, the other is a story about how a theoretical "God" was the source of the Universe, neither of which explain anything at all about how the Universe actually came into being. The fact is, we don't know. Get used to it.

K.





DomKen -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 7:07:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies
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So, frankly, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you say either The Big Bang started life or Let There Be Light started life.

Science against religion in a nutshell. It matters more than your closed mind will ever comprehend

Yeah well, the stories have different forms, but either way something outside space and time and beyond all known laws of physics caused the universe to come into existence. Both sound kinda spooky to me.

only one of the above is a story, the other is a attempt to understand and gain knowledge, one of those two possibilities leads us forward, the other leaves us stagnating. However spooky it may be to some the more curious minds will carry on exploring

It may please you to believe that, but they're both just stories. One is a story about how a theoretical "singularity" was the source of the Universe, the other is a story about how a theoretical "God" was the source of the Universe, neither of which explain anything at all about how the Universe actually came into being. The fact is, we don't know. Get used to it.

K.



Except one has a mountain of evidence and the other has none. Are you actually not keeping an open mind in the face of overwhelming evidence?




Kirata -> RE: The Erosion of Progress by Religions (6/2/2014 7:09:12 PM)


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Except one has a mountain of evidence and the other has none.

Of what precise use is a mountain of evidence for something that explains nothing?

K.





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