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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

To listen to the right in the US and far too many places elsewhere, if a giant asteroid was heading straight for earth presenting a natural organic threat, then similar to the 'natural occurrence' of global warming...man needn't do anything about it.

Either way, I guess...we'll evolve, if we survive.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Oh and jlf, now that earth science has become a religion on the left, it is certainly time to separate the state and religion and disband the EPA. You wouldn't want a cabinet level part of the government overseeing...say....Christianity would you?. Making regulations on how you had to worship.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

And this is the disconnect between Conservatives and Liberals. Cons don't understand that science has real life impacts on the world around us, whereas religion is largely internal and the only major external thing that is produced from it is right wing extremists. Religion didn't bring about computers, the space shuttle, the microwave, the telescope, hair spray, vacuum cleaners, paper, medicine, etc. Those things were brought about by science, so if science is in fact a religion then it's by definition the only religion that's right, because no other religion has done for humanity what science has.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

To listen to the right in the US and far too many places elsewhere, if a giant asteroid was heading straight for earth presenting a natural organic threat, then similar to the 'natural occurrence' of global warming...man needn't do anything about it.

Either way, I guess...we'll evolve, if we survive.

This post applies to you and the post above you.


I always get a great laugh when liberals explain conservatives to conservatives and then go on to tell conservatives what to do. It's like a fairy tale essentially. It is so ignorant and shows you're steeped in superstition.


Why don't you try to get the conservative angle from a conservative rather than your kool aid serving masters? It's like watching children making up bigger and bigger stories.

If you each look at you're posts you'll see that's what you've done. If you're intellectually capable and curious enough you'd seek knowledge outside your existing little circle of friends who all agree with you.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

To listen to the right in the US and far too many places elsewhere, if a giant asteroid was heading straight for earth presenting a natural organic threat, then similar to the 'natural occurrence' of global warming...man needn't do anything about it.

Either way, I guess...we'll evolve, if we survive.

This post applies to you and the post above you.


I always get a great laugh when liberals explain conservatives to conservatives and then go on to tell conservatives what to do. It's like a fairy tale essentially. It is so ignorant and shows you're steeped in superstition.


Why don't you try to get the conservative angle from a conservative rather than your kool aid serving masters? It's like watching children making up bigger and bigger stories.

If you each look at you're posts you'll see that's what you've done. If you're intellectually capable and curious enough you'd seek knowledge outside your existing little circle of friends who all agree with you.

I said the right or as politically reflected today...republicans. I could easily understand if you wish to distinguish yourself as intellectually distinct from that current loose affair of a political party as it becomes more difficult everyday to find any conservatives within their ranks, they being particularly fervent disciples of and worshiping at the alter of profits, leaving their design of markets and profits as the sole arbiter of society's problems. This particularly when it is that very economic discipline that is the cause of so many.

I as an old-school Michigan conservative from way back, whose family even worked for the republican party, and choose not to consider those that deficit spend for 30 years, concoct wars and profits as their any part of any political legacy...as conservatives. I choose not to vote for those 'conservatives' that are greedy, vulture capitalists who would knock the 47% who voted in their favor...out of work to make million$ only to then call those same people...takers rather than makers and their ensuing poverty...their own fault.

I choose not to vote for so-called self proclaimed anti-communist liberty-loving people who have no problem supporting most favored nation trading status to the Chinese fascists, only to see 12 - 15 million jobs go with it and blame those losing them for their own debasement.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Oh and jlf, now that earth science has become a religion on the left, it is certainly time to separate the state and religion and disband the EPA. You wouldn't want a cabinet level part of the government overseeing...say....Christianity would you?. Making regulations on how you had to worship.

.....just as long as we all understand that everything in space revolves around earth and that it is only about 6000 years old and god put old fossils on earth to test our faith and only if they are really as old as 'science' tells us which many just don't believe anyway.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

To listen to the right in the US and far too many places elsewhere, if a giant asteroid was heading straight for earth presenting a natural organic threat, then similar to the 'natural occurrence' of global warming...man needn't do anything about it.

Either way, I guess...we'll evolve, if we survive.

This post applies to you and the post above you.


I always get a great laugh when liberals explain conservatives to conservatives and then go on to tell conservatives what to do. It's like a fairy tale essentially. It is so ignorant and shows you're steeped in superstition.


Why don't you try to get the conservative angle from a conservative rather than your kool aid serving masters? It's like watching children making up bigger and bigger stories.

If you each look at you're posts you'll see that's what you've done. If you're intellectually capable and curious enough you'd seek knowledge outside your existing little circle of friends who all agree with you.

I said the right or as politically reflected today...republicans. I could easily understand if you wish to distinguish yourself as intellectually distinct from that current loose affair of a political party as it becomes more difficult everyday to find any conservatives within their ranks, they being particularly fervent disciples of and worshiping at the alter of profits, leaving their design of markets and profits as the sole arbiter of society's problems. This particularly when it is that very economic discipline that is the cause of so many.

I as an old-school Michigan conservative from way back, whose family even worked for the republican party, and choose not to consider those that deficit spend for 30 years, concoct wars and profits as their any part of any political legacy...as conservatives. I choose not to vote for those 'conservatives' that are greedy, vulture capitalists who would knock the 47% who voted in their favor...out of work to make million$ only to then call those same people...takers rather than makers and their ensuing poverty...their own fault.

I choose not to vote for so-called self proclaimed anti-communist liberty-loving people who have no problem supporting most favored nation trading status to the Chinese fascists, only to see 12 - 15 million jobs go with it and blame those losing them for their own debasement.

Really, tell me in your lifetime, which democrats and which republicans took you to war? You are so full of BS and party line.

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Oh and jlf, now that earth science has become a religion on the left, it is certainly time to separate the state and religion and disband the EPA. You wouldn't want a cabinet level part of the government overseeing...say....Christianity would you?. Making regulations on how you had to worship.

.....just as long as we all understand that everything in space revolves around earth and that it is only about 6000 years old and god put old fossils on earth to test our faith and only if they are really as old as 'science' tells us which many just don't believe anyway.

What an idiot. Is that really the highest intellectual state you can reach?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It seems that people have confused satire with blasting liberals. The person she is interviewing is a well known conservative known for popping anti vaccine conspiracy theories, as well as those about fluoridation of water and other extreme conservative issues.

Hum, I'm extremely conservative. Most of the people I work with are as well. You see we are people who have to take responsibility for making sure things work. For instance, I've built and or operated more than a half dozen water treatment plants in my life. Actually more sewer plants but that's not germain now. I've never met one conservative in the water treatment business that even thought about fluoridating water.

Would you mind providing a source or admitting you're a typical loony leftist who pulls this sort of stuff out of your ass?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It seems that people have confused satire with blasting liberals. The person she is interviewing is a well known conservative known for popping anti vaccine conspiracy theories, as well as those about fluoridation of water and other extreme conservative issues.

Hum, I'm extremely conservative. Most of the people I work with are as well. You see we are people who have to take responsibility for making sure things work. For instance, I've built and or operated more than a half dozen water treatment plants in my life. Actually more sewer plants but that's not germain now. I've never met one conservative in the water treatment business that even thought about fluoridating water.

Would you mind providing a source or admitting you're a typical loony leftist who pulls this sort of stuff out of your ass?

Hunter, I have a question.

I own a bunch of commercial property in rural zoned areas (septic, so, limited footprint obviously) but, if I were on sewer, I could more or less quintuple my coverage for obvious reasons.

I've been looking in to the "Jet System" (midwest somewhere)....looks awesome, lego like (add as needed). Allows me to build about 150,000 sf of building instead of 25,000 sf. Water comes out clean enough to use as irrigation water.

Up to 20,000 gallons of capacity the county can approve it, over 30,000 but below 75,000 gotta take it to the state and they're good with the systems and apparently are easier to get approval from than the county (I'm in an unincorporated county on a state route), above 75,000 gallons, then you go to the feds somehow for approval (that one escapes me...seems like a local issue regardless) and apparently that is like pulling teeth on a mastodon.

I need about 115,000 gallons of capacity.

But, there's 5 parcels so, seems to me if I built out the first (60,000 gallons or so) then built the other site later, it's just another 60,000 gallons, totally different project....or would the state see right through that?

Moreover, would the county feel like I'm stepping on their turf?

They're not going to bring service to my property for 20+ years....I'm about 2 years away from doing something on this but, I'm trying to get my ducks lined up.

Oh, and they say...systems that size need about 1 - 2 hours a week at most effort from the property owner.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It seems that people have confused satire with blasting liberals. The person she is interviewing is a well known conservative known for popping anti vaccine conspiracy theories, as well as those about fluoridation of water and other extreme conservative issues.

Hum, I'm extremely conservative. Most of the people I work with are as well. You see we are people who have to take responsibility for making sure things work. For instance, I've built and or operated more than a half dozen water treatment plants in my life. Actually more sewer plants but that's not germain now. I've never met one conservative in the water treatment business that even thought about fluoridating water.

Would you mind providing a source or admitting you're a typical loony leftist who pulls this sort of stuff out of your ass?

Hunter, I have a question.

I own a bunch of commercial property in rural zoned areas (septic, so, limited footprint obviously) but, if I were on sewer, I could more or less quintuple my coverage for obvious reasons.

I've been looking in to the "Jet System" (midwest somewhere)....looks awesome, lego like (add as needed). Allows me to build about 150,000 sf of building instead of 25,000 sf. Water comes out clean enough to use as irrigation water.

Up to 20,000 gallons of capacity the county can approve it, over 30,000 but below 75,000 gotta take it to the state and they're good with the systems and apparently are easier to get approval from than the county (I'm in an unincorporated county on a state route), above 75,000 gallons, then you go to the feds somehow for approval (that one escapes me...seems like a local issue regardless) and apparently that is like pulling teeth on a mastodon.

I need about 115,000 gallons of capacity.

But, there's 5 parcels so, seems to me if I built out the first (60,000 gallons or so) then built the other site later, it's just another 60,000 gallons, totally different project....or would the state see right through that?

Moreover, would the county feel like I'm stepping on their turf?

They're not going to bring service to my property for 20+ years....I'm about 2 years away from doing something on this but, I'm trying to get my ducks lined up.

Oh, and they say...systems that size need about 1 - 2 hours a week at most effort from the property owner.

Any advice would be appreciated.

You didn't ask me but I'd look at the communities where that 'Jet System' has been used and see what approvals they obtained and learn all you can. They'd likely have plans you could use for your approvals. (BTW what is an 'unincorporated' county ?)

One other question might be how it is you could develop commercially under rural zoning ? If you were to get your water, would this be allowed under special exception ?

It also seems to me that you know as much about this option as anybody here and we might only be guessing.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It seems that people have confused satire with blasting liberals. The person she is interviewing is a well known conservative known for popping anti vaccine conspiracy theories, as well as those about fluoridation of water and other extreme conservative issues.

Hum, I'm extremely conservative. Most of the people I work with are as well. You see we are people who have to take responsibility for making sure things work. For instance, I've built and or operated more than a half dozen water treatment plants in my life. Actually more sewer plants but that's not germain now. I've never met one conservative in the water treatment business that even thought about fluoridating water.

Would you mind providing a source or admitting you're a typical loony leftist who pulls this sort of stuff out of your ass?

Hunter, I have a question.

I own a bunch of commercial property in rural zoned areas (septic, so, limited footprint obviously) but, if I were on sewer, I could more or less quintuple my coverage for obvious reasons.

I've been looking in to the "Jet System" (midwest somewhere)....looks awesome, lego like (add as needed). Allows me to build about 150,000 sf of building instead of 25,000 sf. Water comes out clean enough to use as irrigation water.

Up to 20,000 gallons of capacity the county can approve it, over 30,000 but below 75,000 gotta take it to the state and they're good with the systems and apparently are easier to get approval from than the county (I'm in an unincorporated county on a state route), above 75,000 gallons, then you go to the feds somehow for approval (that one escapes me...seems like a local issue regardless) and apparently that is like pulling teeth on a mastodon.

I need about 115,000 gallons of capacity.

But, there's 5 parcels so, seems to me if I built out the first (60,000 gallons or so) then built the other site later, it's just another 60,000 gallons, totally different project....or would the state see right through that?

Moreover, would the county feel like I'm stepping on their turf?

They're not going to bring service to my property for 20+ years....I'm about 2 years away from doing something on this but, I'm trying to get my ducks lined up.

Oh, and they say...systems that size need about 1 - 2 hours a week at most effort from the property owner.

Any advice would be appreciated.

You didn't ask me but I'd look at the communities where that 'Jet System' has been used and see what approvals they obtained and learn all you can. They'd likely have plans you could use for your approvals. (BTW what is an 'unincorporated' county ?)

One other question might be how it is you could develop commercially under rural zoning ? If you were to get your water, would this be allowed under special exception ?

It also seems to me that you know as much about this option as anybody here and we might only be guessing.

Really, you're offering advise here in an area in which you've never worked professionally. You should be put in jail if you aren't just trying to exhibit a stiff cock.

God, you're off my list of ever even considering a discussion.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
Really, in the last such permit I obtained about six years ago I had the three star general in charge of the US Army Corp of Engineers and the local Congressmen visit the federal employee and ask her to process the permit in the second year of the application and she said no. So we waited a third year.