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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/9/2014 8:00:00 AM   
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WAIT A GALDARN MINUTE!!!!!

Are you telling me that ThompsonV is wrong?????

Only an adolescent mongoloid would think that.
For those of us who can read what he said was where he lives he gets his toyota worked on for $70 per hour.
I live in california where the economy is a bit more prosperous and prices are a little higher.


I live in Seattle, the second fastest growing economy in the country.

Any validation for this moronic belief?

With people making on average, $134,000 a year, we don't pay those prices.


Any validation for this moronic,ignorant, unsubstantiated opinion?

ThompsonV knows everything.

He's a genius. He knows everything.

It is clear that a stone knows more than you.

(I wish I could be like ThompsonV).


You can wish till hell freezes over and it ain't gonna happen.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/9/2014 8:05:42 AM   
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I have failed everyone.


As usual

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/9/2014 5:32:43 PM   
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Sorry..... -1


You're still giving him way too much credit.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 9:54:43 AM   
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And what does either link have to do with your claim that Detroit lost 5 million jobs?

NY got a federal bailout while spending even more money and on the Yankees no less. Detroit irrespective of just how or why, needs a bailout after subsidizing sports and downtown construction and one it is not going to get. The 5 million jobs included Wyandotte, Flint and Dearborn, Livonia among other suburban communities that supplied employment and sales tax revenue to the city.

Yet Detroit remains a partisan whipping boy when other cities never went that far, getting state or federal help without all of the tripe. Even Pittsburgh had its pension and mass transit bailed out by PA. With the economic vultures having their day...even Mich. doesn't have the money.



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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 10:10:04 AM   
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Very good synopsis. Funny how so many find it easier to blame the 'greed; of the unions wanting a living wage rather then the investor class missing the boat through their greed.

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wanting a living wage? you mean double a living wage...

when I was younger, 20's min wage was around 3 dollars an hour, people making 5, 6, 7 dollars an hour were LIVING decently, people making 10 dollars an hour were living fairly well, people I knew who worked at the Chrystler plane in Fenton were making 20+ an hour.

that's triple a LIVING WAGE, and 100% more than people I knew who were living well

do I begrudge them making good money, NO, but neither was/am I sympathetic when they CRIED they needed MORE...

For more than 30 years the unions have not been crying for more but trying keep what they had and couldn't, just to try and keep their benefits and minimize layoffs. It was right around the time then that Reagan started to destroy unions.

The only people that kept getting more was management (GM) and the powerful Ford family from wall street both sales through a continued issuing of yet more classes of stock...further diluting dividends to smaller stockholders if there were any and their corporate democracy, something that is becoming increasingly rare.

When Mopar sales slipped further as they kept producing big gas guzzlers in the 70's and 80's, they raised prices even further causing a further drop in demand...precipitating more layoffs.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 10:11:05 AM   
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If you honestly believe the heads of the unions are not making a living wage, you need to step back from the koolaid pitcher. I think you've had enough.

The head of unions aren't layed off and still make a very small fraction of what management makes.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 10:12:29 AM   
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Toyota gets about $120 per hour to work on them.

As a Toyota customer, I can tell you that's not true.

More like $70.

In No. Va. I had my Mercedes worked on for $90/hr. as of 2013.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 10:14:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

WAIT A GALDARN MINUTE!!!!!

Are you telling me that ThompsonV is wrong?????

Only an adolescent mongoloid would think that.
For those of us who can read what he said was where he lives he gets his toyota worked on for $70 per hour.
I live in california where the economy is a bit more prosperous and prices are a little higher.


I live in Seattle, the second fastest growing economy in the country.

With people making on average, $134,000 a year, we don't pay those prices.

ThompsonV knows everything.

He's a genius. He knows everything.

(I wish I could be like ThompsonV).


As of 9/13 median family income in Seattle was about $67,700

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 10:31:31 AM   
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In No. Va. I had my Mercedes worked on for $90/hr. as of 2013.


Is that at a dealer or independent garage?

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 7:07:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

WAIT A GALDARN MINUTE!!!!!

Are you telling me that ThompsonV is wrong?????

Only an adolescent mongoloid would think that.
For those of us who can read what he said was where he lives he gets his toyota worked on for $70 per hour.
I live in california where the economy is a bit more prosperous and prices are a little higher.


I live in Seattle, the second fastest growing economy in the country.

With people making on average, $134,000 a year, we don't pay those prices.

ThompsonV knows everything.

He's a genius. He knows everything.

(I wish I could be like ThompsonV).


As of 9/13 median family income in Seattle was about $67,700



Not everyone in Seattle flips hamburgers:

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Location=Seattle-WA/Salary

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/10/2014 7:09:51 PM   
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Toyota gets about $120 per hour to work on them.

As a Toyota customer, I can tell you that's not true.

More like $70.

In No. Va. I had my Mercedes worked on for $90/hr. as of 2013.

I looked it up out of curiosity, and Toyota doesn't mandate labor rates for its dealers. So it varies according to region.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 5:23:24 AM   
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And what does either link have to do with your claim that Detroit lost 5 million jobs?

NY got a federal bailout while spending even more money and on the Yankees no less. Detroit irrespective of just how or why, needs a bailout after subsidizing sports and downtown construction and one it is not going to get. The 5 million jobs included Wyandotte, Flint and Dearborn, Livonia among other suburban communities that supplied employment and sales tax revenue to the city.

Yet Detroit remains a partisan whipping boy when other cities never went that far, getting state or federal help without all of the tripe. Even Pittsburgh had its pension and mass transit bailed out by PA. With the economic vultures having their day...even Mich. doesn't have the money.






I am pretty sure if we had lost 5 million jobs like you claimed there would be something online about it and yet you still haven't provided a link. Now there is a good chance that you are right but until you back it up with more than your words I am going to have to assume you're not.

as to Detroit being a partisan whipping boy...not sure what you are trying to imply with that comment. But Detroit has been run by the left for as long as I can remember and they have really done an amazing job with the city. And not amazing in a good way.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 5:24:47 AM   
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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 7:42:19 AM   
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In No. Va. I had my Mercedes worked on for $90/hr. as of 2013.


Is that at a dealer or independent garage?


Oh that was at a garage. The dealers in most cases, are incompetent thieves.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 7:55:51 AM   
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In No. Va. I had my Mercedes worked on for $90/hr. as of 2013.


Is that at a dealer or independent garage?


Oh that was at a garage. The dealers in most cases, are incompetent thieves.


Thieves...hard to disagree with that...
Incompetent...yes I have found that at all agencies not just mb or jag have a certain level of incompetence but in general they have access to all of the company updates and fixes.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 7:58:57 AM   
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And what does either link have to do with your claim that Detroit lost 5 million jobs?

NY got a federal bailout while spending even more money and on the Yankees no less. Detroit irrespective of just how or why, needs a bailout after subsidizing sports and downtown construction and one it is not going to get. The 5 million jobs included Wyandotte, Flint and Dearborn, Livonia among other suburban communities that supplied employment and sales tax revenue to the city.

Yet Detroit remains a partisan whipping boy when other cities never went that far, getting state or federal help without all of the tripe. Even Pittsburgh had its pension and mass transit bailed out by PA. With the economic vultures having their day...even Mich. doesn't have the money.






I am pretty sure if we had lost 5 million jobs like you claimed there would be something online about it and yet you still haven't provided a link. Now there is a good chance that you are right but until you back it up with more than your words I am going to have to assume you're not.

as to Detroit being a partisan whipping boy...not sure what you are trying to imply with that comment. But Detroit has been run by the left for as long as I can remember and they have really done an amazing job with the city. And not amazing in a good way.

Everybody has some blame but NAFTA and the risk averse investor class (corporations) wants no part of the expense to provide a safe clean work place or environment.
Here

Here
Just since 2000 and just the latest debacle.....

In 2000 the number of private sector jobs in Michigan was 3,996,000; this number dropped to 3,213,000 by August 2009 -- a drop of 783,000 jobs (19.6%). This is a shocking number -- one out of five jobs in Michigan has disappeared since 2000.

But consider this: fully 24% of all private sector job losses nation-wide occurred in Michigan during this time period. Think of that: one out of four of all private-sector job losses in the country during these years occurred in one state, Michigan. This could reasonably be called a one-state depression. It is as if a slow-moving Katrina had hit the state, and no one noticed.

Thanx Bush and Co.

Yes, Detroit has had corrupt city govts. but other cities have also while the state of Mich. is Republican and other cities and states have worked together to prevent such as anything close to what has happened in Mich. general and Detroit in particular.

So why Michigan which has been run by mostly repubs ?

The auto industry that's why. All of the jobs directly related and also in support. So while the city had maybe only about 2 million at best since the 60's...millions of the rest of the jobs around it have left too because of the maladministration of our entire economy.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 8:24:44 AM   
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Toyota gets about $120 per hour to work on them.

As a Toyota customer, I can tell you that's not true.

More like $70.


You are paying $70 per hour at the dealership? That is quite cheap. Here in california it is over $100. Three years ago the mopar dealer was getting $120 and jag was getting about $200.



At my neighborhood garage I pay $90/hour.
My brother who works at a Dealership tells me that is competitive pricing.
I live in MA.


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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 8:26:49 AM   
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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 8:29:37 AM   
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I have failed everyone.


As usual




While I am finding your courtship quite entertaining, my suggestion is could you 2 please get a room?
How else will you know if the special feelings you have for one another are real, or just based on fantasy?
At the very least, meet for coffee somewhere; I'll buy.

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RE: Corporate Personhood -- What Happens at GM? - 6/11/2014 8:54:17 AM   
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While I am finding your courtship quite entertaining, my suggestion is could you 2 please get a room?

After not telling me about the other moron being in the hospital???


How else will you know if the special feelings you have for one another are real, or just based on fantasy?


Are you questioning maternal love?

At the very least, meet for coffee somewhere; I'll buy.

Will you give him the $12 bux he is always sniveling about too?



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