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thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/12/2014 6:08:37 PM)
ORIGINAL: FieryOpal quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Everyone likes free stuff. <snip> Being given free stuff is not the same as taking what doesn't belong to oneself or what isn't being offered freely. The latter is called stealing. The op is sniveling about punks that want a freebie...they are not stealing anything they are like panhandlers with a tin cup in their hand. The other side of that stick is that she is in business and the trick is to figure out who are the time wasters who just want a hand job over the phone and the serious ones who are seeking advice and information so as to be able to make an informed comercial decission. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx I offer myself in exchange in all of my radiant glory[8\|] <snip> That's nice. Perhaps you'll get some takers. [:)] Your average run-of-the-mill short, fat, bald, out-of-shape, broke-ass HNG will have to up the ante. Now you know why I rent.[:(]

FieryOpal -> RE: Irony (6/12/2014 7:24:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx they are not stealing anything they are like panhandlers with a tin cup in their hand. It's the intent to get something which isn't being given away, for basically nothing - no authentic submission or deference to the authority dynamic, no dating, no respectful courting, no companionship, no promises for the future other than to be a "dirty little secret" of theirs - of which I draw this analogy to being no better than a thief. Except that panhandlers don't customarily say: "Can you give me a 20 instead of 2 bucks, and can you make that a 10, a 5, and five 1's? And can I wank off while you're counting it out?" [:D] quote: The other side of that stick is that she is in business and the trick is to figure out who are the time wasters who just want a hand job over the phone and the serious ones who are seeking advice and information so as to be able to make an informed comercial decission. Although this is true, those of us who are lifestyle Dommes encounter the same "DO-ME the way I want MY fantasy fulfilled as if this is all about you, when it's really all about me" mentality, which is très objectionable--not to mention a complete turn-off. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx [FieryOpal:] Your average run-of-the-mill short, fat, bald, out-of-shape, broke-ass HNG will have to up the ante. Now you know why I rent.[:(] Wait a minute--You told me you were tall, had an athletic build, a head full of golden tresses, and hadn't had to pay rent in the past 40 years.... [8D]

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Irony (6/12/2014 8:55:00 PM)
That's not what I meant. I meant that proving your loyalty isn't about doing something that gets you off without any consideration for what that person enjoys. I personally don't have sexual contact w anyone serving me as a submissive so oral sex is a big no no and I have a weird hang up about having my feet touched lol. But if you're going to prove you're loyal to someone it shouldn't be a ploy to do something that's only enjoyable for you. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali FieryOpal, thank you for your comments. I always enjoy reading what you have to say. And thank you everyone else for the input and advice! From now on when subs offer to be my oral slave or lick my feet to prove their loyalty I'm simply going to to tell them that I am happy to buy myself a new LV bag on their credit card to prove mine lol If he is going to lick your feet you might consider a pair of C/L kicks to go with that bag.[;)]

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Irony (6/12/2014 8:59:26 PM)
Who said I was a phone sex operator..? I wasn't "sniveling" about anything. I was simply starting a discussion. Financial domination isn't a "business" I run. I go to school and I have a job. It's a hobby I enjoy. I am very particular about the type of submissives I am interested in so please don't make assumptions about me. I don't really know why everyone thinks that Fin Dommes are all gold digging bimbos on phone sex lines doing whatever we can to make a buck. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: FieryOpal quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Everyone likes free stuff. <snip> Being given free stuff is not the same as taking what doesn't belong to oneself or what isn't being offered freely. The latter is called stealing. The op is sniveling about punks that want a freebie...they are not stealing anything they are like panhandlers with a tin cup in their hand. The other side of that stick is that she is in business and the trick is to figure out who are the time wasters who just want a hand job over the phone and the serious ones who are seeking advice and information so as to be able to make an informed comercial decission. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx I offer myself in exchange in all of my radiant glory[8\|] <snip> That's nice. Perhaps you'll get some takers. [:)] Your average run-of-the-mill short, fat, bald, out-of-shape, broke-ass HNG will have to up the ante. Now you know why I rent.[:(]

GoddessManko -> RE: Irony (6/12/2014 9:21:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FieryOpal Wait a minute--You told me you were tall, had an athletic build, a head full of golden tresses, and hadn't had to pay rent in the past 40 years.... [8D] LOL Fiery!!!! And I'm Batman, just so you know. [;)] quote: Financial domination isn't a "business" I run. I go to school and I have a job. It's a hobby I enjoy. I am very particular about the type of submissives I am interested in so please don't make assumptions about me. Hold on one second young lady! You mean you have something else going on for you aside from being a beautiful dominant female? And wait, you have actual FEELINGS and AMBITIONS?!?! Perish the thought! [:D] quote: you might consider a pair of C/L kicks to go with that bag. thompsonx may have somehow redeemed himself there by a hair by being a man who knows his shoe designers, attention to detail is everything (and so looking forward to you 'splaining yourself to Fiery). Christian Louboutin for the win! [8D]

experiment2 -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 4:34:18 AM)
there does seem to be a lot of male subs who seem to put themselves first in a Domme/s relationship. i cannot speak for them. from my point of view pleasure is derived from pleasing ones Domme. this requires a sub to always put the Domme first. personal pleasure is secondary and only should be permitted with permission. learning what your domme likes and dislikes is the process of being trained to respond the right way. i believe a submissive does get most of their pleasure and rewards from knowing his Domme is pleased with his actions, activities and feedback. it seems that an experienced Domme will quickly learn their subs abilities and do what is necessard to control her sub

MaggiesFarm -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 9:05:44 AM)
quote: So my question is for those who identify as submissive, males in particular, do you just seek out a woman who will just do whatever gets you off or do some of you seek to serve and make your Domme happy? Err, you realize that the ones who seek to serve and make their Domme happy do it because it is what gets them off, right?

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 9:59:47 AM)
ORIGINAL: MaggiesFarm Err, you realize that the ones who seek to serve and make their Domme happy do it because it is what gets them off, right? Listen up: We will have none of that infalable logic from someone who has no profile[:)]

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:03:47 AM)
ORIGINAL: experiment2 there does seem to be a lot of male subs who seem to put themselves first in a Domme/s relationship. i cannot speak for them. from my point of view pleasure is derived from pleasing ones Domme. this requires a sub to always put the Domme first. If ones own pleasure is derived from pleasing ones domme then that is prima facia evidence that ones primary focus is on their own pleasure. personal pleasure is secondary and only should be permitted with permission. learning what your domme likes and dislikes is the process of being trained to respond the right way. Learning what each other likes is part of any interpersonal relationship.

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:07:01 AM)
ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali That's not what I meant. I meant that proving your loyalty isn't about doing something that gets you off without any consideration for what that person enjoys. What if "proving your loyality" gets both of you off? I personally don't have sexual contact w anyone serving me as a submissive so oral sex is a big no no and I have a weird hang up about having my feet touched lol. But if you're going to prove you're loyal to someone it shouldn't be a ploy to do something that's only enjoyable for you. So the question remains, would you allow him to buy you a pair of c/l kicks to go with your new bag?

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:13:12 AM)
Wait a minute--You told me you were tall, had an athletic build, a head full of golden tresses, and hadn't had to pay rent in the past 40 years That is all true. The issue is that I am contentious,arrogant and far more truthful than is necessary. Thus my ability to attract flies with a mixture of kerosene and razor blades has been more than a little unproductive. The fact that I dont pay rent or utilities allows me to rent the temporary affections of profsionals.

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:17:48 AM)
Dp

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:26:03 AM)
]ORIGINAL: thompsonx thompsonx may have somehow redeemed himself there by a hair by being a man who knows his shoe designers, attention to detail is everything (and so looking forward to you 'splaining yourself to Fiery). Christian Louboutin for the win! On those rare occasions when I can con a woman into dancing with me I am more than happy to buy her a pair of shoes with shocks in the heels otherwise she will wind up with shin splints and I will be dancing with the mop again. The bottom line here is if you won't dance with me I ain't buying you kicks of any sort...I am a win win kinda kinkster

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 10:35:58 AM)
Who said I was a phone sex operator..? Not me. I wasn't "sniveling" about anything. Sniviling is a euphimism for complaining which is what you were doing. I was simply starting a discussion. Financial domination isn't a "business" I run. I go to school and I have a job. It's a hobby I enjoy. If you get paid for it it is a job. I am very particular about the type of submissives I am interested in so please don't make assumptions about me. What assumptions have I made about you? I don't really know why everyone thinks that Fin Dommes are all gold digging bimbos on phone sex lines doing whatever we can to make a buck. I don't know why everyone thinks that car mechanics are all gold digging dickwads with a wrench in their hands doing what ever he can to make a buck.[8\|] It is a business like any other, some of your potential clients will be time wasters and some will prove to be financially productive.

RockaRolla -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 3:09:54 PM)
Let's trade subs! The messages I get from subs are usually along the lines of "I'd love to serve you! How? Umm... anything you want!" At least these guys know what they like and try to go after it. They're going about it the wrong way, but hey.

FieryOpal -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 3:38:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RockaRolla Let's trade subs! The messages I get from subs are usually along the lines of "I'd love to serve you! How? Umm... anything you want!" At least these guys know what they like and try to go after it. They're going about it the wrong way, but hey. Such a sweet offer, but these subs who don't care whether a warm female body comes in the form of a Domme, S/switch or sub -- wanna bet if you took them up on their offer and told them to service Top you, they'd make themselves scarce real fast. Again, it's the insta-Domming they're after, NOT being submissive to your needs and desires.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 5:12:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali That's not what I meant. I meant that proving your loyalty isn't about doing something that gets you off without any consideration for what that person enjoys. What if "proving your loyality" gets both of you off? I personally don't have sexual contact w anyone serving me as a submissive so oral sex is a big no no and I have a weird hang up about having my feet touched lol. But if you're going to prove you're loyal to someone it shouldn't be a ploy to do something that's only enjoyable for you. So the question remains, would you allow him to buy you a pair of c/l kicks to go with your new bag? Then yes if the act in which a sub offers to prove his loyalty is something we mutually enjoy then that's great. I simply met that someone with a foot fetish offering to "prove their loyalty" by licking a Domme's feet, without asking if it's something she enjoys, is pretty one sided. And it doesn't really seem to be proving anything com my perspective, other than that particular person is only concerned with their own desires. And personally, I prefer Brian Atwood to CL lol.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 5:17:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Who said I was a phone sex operator..? Not me. I wasn't "sniveling" about anything. Sniviling is a euphimism for complaining which is what you were doing. I was simply starting a discussion. Financial domination isn't a "business" I run. I go to school and I have a job. It's a hobby I enjoy. If you get paid for it it is a job. I am very particular about the type of submissives I am interested in so please don't make assumptions about me. What assumptions have I made about you? I don't really know why everyone thinks that Fin Dommes are all gold digging bimbos on phone sex lines doing whatever we can to make a buck. I don't know why everyone thinks that car mechanics are all gold digging dickwads with a wrench in their hands doing what ever he can to make a buck.[8\|] It is a business like any other, some of your potential clients will be time wasters and some will prove to be financially productive. You said I was "trying to figure out who just wanted a handjob over the phone." I took that as an assumption I was a phone sex operator. And I don't really look at financial domination as something I get paid for. To me, it's like recieving gifts. If someone sent me a birthday present I wouldn't think of it as getting paid. If a submissive person enjoys speaking with me or feels the need to tribute me or buy me a gift then so be it. But it's not like I will do x, y, and z for x amount of time and be paid x amount of money for it. I guess I think of it differently that Pro Dommes who charge a specific amount for a specific service bc that's not what I do.

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 6:36:49 PM)
I prefer Brian Atwood to CL lol. The b/a do not have the shock absorbers in the heels like the c/l do. While I do not dance well I do it with enthusiam so shoes are important.

thompsonx -> RE: Irony (6/13/2014 6:41:51 PM)
You said I was "trying to figure out who just wanted a handjob over the phone." I took that as an assumption I was a phone sex operator. I got the impression from your post that it was on the phone that these pan handlers were reciting their laundry list of needs. And I don't really look at financial domination as something I get paid for. Then you are being less than honest with yourself. To me, it's like recieving gifts. If someone sent me a birthday present I wouldn't think of it as getting paid. From your family and close friends of course you are not being paid for getting old. If a submissive person enjoys speaking with me or feels the need to tribute me or buy me a gift then so be it. How long will you speak with this person on the phone or on the net if they do not give you stuff? If that time is measured in micro-seconds then yes you are in business. But it's not like I will do x, y, and z for x amount of time and be paid x amount of money for it. I guess I think of it differently that Pro Dommes who charge a specific amount for a specific service bc that's not what I do. [8\|]

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