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133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New World Order - 6/29/2014 4:08:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone been hearing of this? I did read an article about Russia and China creating a new monetary system that excludes the US, and that is mentioned here, too. If you google the heading of this thread, you will likely find lots of links talking about it. If I hadn't stumbled across this link, I wouldn't have heard it. Any input or thoughts?

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 4:13:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's odd that it's not being discussed on any credible site, isn't it.

I suppose that's the illuminati?

They're sure to be behind all of this

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 4:18:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know what it is. According to the article the smaller countries are banding together and launching this strategy against us in the name of fairness and justice. (kinda like the Mega rich in politics vs the avg joe, and all the problems here). That was my wonder too..."why are they blacking Americans to the news."

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 4:22:18 PM   
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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 4:24:28 PM   
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The irony of people like Nicholas Maduro and countries like Communist China having the slightest interest in "a fair, honest and legitimate World Order" is comical.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 4:47:14 PM   
Louve00


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Status: offline 		Hehe. Not being familiar with Nicholas Maduro, I looked him up and had to smirk, as well as it's noted about China. China is though a part of G20, so the generalized backlash would include them (I would think). My mention to China was that I had heard they and Russia were creating a monetary system, and that little tidbit got mention in this latest article I read. I do like your point about Nicholas Maduro, though. And funny thing...he's been involved with black out scams in his own country. I don't know if I'm the only one who finds that ironic or not

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 5:26:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes the very idea of fair, honest and legitimate is a hoot alright. Ya'know, kinda like as nationalists/socialists that turned into a blatant capitalist fascism run by kleptocrats in certain parts of mid-20th century Europe.

But this is to compete against not align with the Illuminati, The Illuminati sees the west as the creator of their model NWO and the Chinese while economic fascists and truly the ideal neo-fascists of our time...and role models...still just awarded the Asian sector of the 3 to remain.

So I guess it's time to fill them in, with a post-Putin Russia and their oil, slated to fall in line with the European sector not Asia.

The link sounds plausible but only if they are prepared to do a whole lot of heavy lifting without the US market. How can Russia and China come up with a new currency when nobody wants theirs now ? You can't just create a currency out of thin air in which nobody else will trade beyond few regional borders if that. What will they use...Swiss francs ? I don't think so.

The only question now is whether the EU and the US will call their bluff. Paramount to the US economy is how Americans feel about theor own US dollars. Yes of course as usual, capitalist greed will play a big part but I don't see rabid inflation here....not sustainable.

So if this meeting of the new 'G133' is going to hold water, they have a lotta...work to do.

1st job,.. a new UN because our billion$ will be gone. 2nd...new markets because the western markets will be gone. I don't wish them luck but I am sure they don't care what we think.


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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 6:41:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking the same thing "IF" it's true. If it's also true, that may be a reason US and EU aren't giving it recognition. Ignore it and it will go away. But that reminds me of a Gandhi quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." And that's not very comforting either. While I do like keeping up with ALL worldly news, I can be quite slow and naive in some aspects. As in creating currency. But there too, if the rest of the countries not a part of the G20 were to create their own NWO...a new one...you're right. They have to do a lot of lifting without the US market. As I think of and respond to your points, I am reminded of bitcoins. But to be fair to your comment about establishing it, while it is reporting bitcoins are being more and more accepted for purchase here, it has been said to be nothing more than cash on paper....unable to be converted to the US money system (In fact, from my reading of bitcoins, they were created as an alternative to buy outside of and without the laws of the current US monetary system, but I've not looked into it enough to know truth, specifics and all the legitimate stuff.

I guess this is going to be one of those instances where it will sit on the back burner, with the knowledge of it tucked in the crevices of our minds (or at least my mind) with the hope it fizzles out if it is, truly, an ongoing endeavor of those 133 smaller countries, or it will fade as a piece of gossip.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 6:51:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		And to be fair to my last post...who the hell am I to wish to not let them win their liberation, if it's to be called such. It would be like the futile battles and points the middle class fight for against the mega rich. The mega rich call it taking from the rich to give to the poor. I see it more as the rich paying their fair share of the same things the middle class pay. They are taxed less for money not earned. Try to win the lottery as a regular joe schmoe and see how much you're taxed for not earning it. You did, afterall, invest in a lottery ticket. I have gobs more of those "comparisons", but apparently my view on those things don't always measure up to the majority. ahh well

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 7:24:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		So out of a group of 77 nations, 133 of them vow . . .

. . . just take a moment and reflect on what that sentence says.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 7:33:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I think the part these G133 are missing is that far too much of their own economies and govts....are corrupt.

Argentina and Venez., Columbia and Equator come to mind with most of the elite and even managers and staff coming to work only to get their paycheck. Then there is Guatemala and Honduras...broken countries and Mexico, a totally corrupt narco., oligarchy having only oil, with most of the cheap labor and now intelligentsia...fighting to get the hell out of dodge.

Where will the G133 sell their goods and services if this new found wealth they keep from the imperial west...is squandered and stolen ?

It's very easy, way too easy to say they are tired of the west as Africa has been saying and for 50-60 years. Time to first, look in the mirror and it's...not a pretty picture.

Russia and China make the counterpoint but even they too can get all dressed up...with nowhere to go.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/29/2014 9:13:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The G77 couldn't decide to do much of anything. They are another convenient hobby horse of the conspiracy nuts.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/30/2014 7:48:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I reflected on the sentence of 133 G77 and as you pointed out it didn't make much sense to me, and I wanted to know why the numbers were placed as such. I found a link that describes the stated title as:

The Next World Order

The organization is officially called the ‘Group of 77 and China’, but the alliance actually includes 133 nations. Showing just how much influence they have, their meeting this weekend in Bolivia was opened with a keynote speech by United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. In the audience were over 30 heads of state from around the world and official representatives from over 100 more governments. Also illustrating the organization’s growing influence, China isn’t even a member of the G77, but insisted on participating anyway in a show of unity with the globe’s Next World Order. Link here

But with that said and aside, it's comforting to me that these poorer countries don't have the resources AND have the corruption that could pose a real threat to us. But what I gather from any of these links is, while we are not the only country that is part of the G20, it seems the main target of hatred goes to America alone, with China wanting to participate in the G77, along with being in the G20.


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I don't know what to think. I hope it is one big silly conspiracy, but I'm beginning to wonder otherwise.

And then too, still not every nation is included. There is 175 nations. Minus the 20 from the G20 = 155 nations. So why did they leave out 22 nations? And which ones were left out?



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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/30/2014 3:34:18 PM   
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And then too, still not every nation is included. There is 175 nations. Minus the 20 from the G20 = 155 nations. So why did they leave out 22 nations? And which ones were left out?

They exclude every country in the so called developed word and a few others not just the G20.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_77

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/30/2014 4:08:52 PM   
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United nations page regarding the G77
they have quite a few items regarding them...and was linked from the OP link
And the G77 page itself
http://www.g77.org/doc/

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 6/30/2014 4:09:46 PM   
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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 7/1/2014 6:53:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Louve00

I reflected on the sentence of 133 G77 and as you pointed out it didn't make much sense to me, and I wanted to know why the numbers were placed as such. I found a link that describes the stated title as:

The Next World Order

The organization is officially called the ‘Group of 77 and China’, but the alliance actually includes 133 nations. Showing just how much influence they have, their meeting this weekend in Bolivia was opened with a keynote speech by United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. In the audience were over 30 heads of state from around the world and official representatives from over 100 more governments. Also illustrating the organization’s growing influence, China isn’t even a member of the G77, but insisted on participating anyway in a show of unity with the globe’s Next World Order. Link here

But with that said and aside, it's comforting to me that these poorer countries don't have the resources AND have the corruption that could pose a real threat to us. But what I gather from any of these links is, while we are not the only country that is part of the G20, it seems the main target of hatred goes to America alone, with China wanting to participate in the G77, along with being in the G20.


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I don't know what to think. I hope it is one big silly conspiracy, but I'm beginning to wonder otherwise.

And then too, still not every nation is included. There is 175 nations. Minus the 20 from the G20 = 155 nations. So why did they leave out 22 nations? And which ones were left out?


I don't think it's any kind of conspiracy, as it's not unusual for nations to come together based on a set of perceived common interests. I'm not sure what they think they're going to accomplish by destroying (or attempting to destroy) "America's New World Order," since they're apparently referring to an "order" advocated by globalist ideologues and governments of multiple nations, not just America.

Another thing I try to keep in mind is that the governments which comprise this group of nations also have to worry about their own positions and placate their own populations. Looking at it somewhat cynically, I can see where America could be used as a convenient scapegoat to explain away corruption, mismanagement, and other internal rot existent under many of these governments.

On the other hand, stories like this, which speak of a large coalition of nations vowing to destroy America, might also further entrench Americans and feed the militaristic/interventionist idea that there are numerous "enemies of freedom and democracy" around the world. I don't know that it would be considered "conspiracy theory," although whenever there are perceptions of rising anti-Americanism in the world, it tends to spread fear among the electorate and could push some moderates and undecideds into a more hawkish direction.



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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 7/1/2014 8:48:42 AM   
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We have specie (coin)
We have fiat currency (money backed by politician promises)
We have crypto-currency (bitcoin, backed by the cloud?)

What is the "new" type of currency?
With the pattern over the years I guess it would be ghost currency. Worth something in the afterlife at best.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 7/1/2014 10:59:52 AM   
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Ok,
We have specie (coin)
We have fiat currency (money backed by politician promises)
We have crypto-currency (bitcoin, backed by the cloud?)

What is the "new" type of currency?
With the pattern over the years I guess it would be ghost currency. Worth something in the afterlife at best.

We have coin that is still accepted at face value and still exchanged as wages, tips, salaries and upon which there is still profits.

We (US) have currency still backed by the full faith and credit shown in the confidence of the American workforce and thus, still...a store of wealth.

We have a digital exchange medium upon which many feel they can trade...digitally.

There is and will never be any new 'type' of currency. Only those now accepted in exchange for enhanced value and for the labor the bearer is expected to receive in return.

I understand the sarcasm but fear the speculators...they are our only enemy the battle of currencies.

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RE: 133 G77 Nations Vow To Destroy America’s New Worl... - 7/1/2014 12:31:49 PM   
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The irony of people like Nicholas Maduro and countries like Communist China having the slightest interest in "a fair, honest and legitimate World Order" is comical.

K.


With the possible exception of the dali lamma who does?

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