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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Although I agree that a political shakeup is in order, I sincerely hope that it doesn't happen with weapons. I would hope we get law enforcement officer and public officials in office that are motivated by the consititution and the law, not by politics.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Although I agree that a political shakeup is in order, I sincerely hope that it doesn't happen with weapons. I would hope we get law enforcement officer and public officials in office that are motivated by the consititution and the law, not by politics.

Americans also have a culture of blaming while dodging responsibility. They keep electing douche bags, then whine about corruption.

Complaining about government doesn't work. Revolution in this context is just stupid. Americans deciding to take personal responsibility for the world and system in which they live, and doing so in responsible, proactive (vs. reactive Tea Party crap, for example) ways, is exactly what's needed, and the only real solution.

Today's range of 3rd Parties are by and large single issue platforms, better suited to political action committees. A viable 3rd Party needs to have a comprehensive platform, viable strategies for achieving it, and popular and financial support for implementing it.

Instead, what we have today are culture wars (you can't govern for part of the country -- just ask Iraq) that generate opposing unfeasible plans (for example, neither Republican nor Democrat proposals will reduce the national debt except in fantasy land).

But as long as Americans prefer pretty lies, selfishness over sustainability, short term over long term planning, getting the other guy over finding comprehensive solutions, trying to fight the world instead of embracing it, attitude over real negotiation, ideology over vision, we're going to stay stuck where we are, or make it worse.

Will the situation force a crisis? Maybe eventually. But despite our whining, we're very well off, and can afford a very long decline before such a crisis.

I hope we don't opt for that route. In the short run, though, nobody wants to budge from what's already not working.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

America needs a political 'American Fall' very similar to the so-called...Arab Spring only...at the ballot box.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

"The power of the vote" is a romantic anachronism.

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ORIGINAL: Domnotlooking

The 79% of whiney overpriveleged children called Americans need to:

-visit a country where corruption is for real so they can stop talking out of their fatuous asses

- get down on their knees and thank god for the random gift from god of being an American

-aquaint themselves with basic reality and/or the political process

I agree with the Moose Man; cake, eat it never really works out. We like grid lock, we insist on it.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But; a moose, not a caribou.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Domnotlooking

The 79% of whiney overpriveleged children called Americans need to:

-visit a country where corruption is for real so they can stop talking out of their fatuous asses

- get down on their knees and thank god for the random gift from god of being an American

-aquaint themselves with basic reality and/or the political process

I agree with the Moose Man; cake, eat it never really works out. We like grid lock, we insist on it.

You are delusional thinking corruption is not rampant in our political system. Lobbyists and PACs do not spend all that money on elections without expecting a quid pro quo beyond access and a politician's eagerly ready ear.

regardless of recent events to the contrary in low voter turn out primaries incumbents rarely lose elections, and incumbency begets power on Congressional committees which in turn attracts more money from special interests. There is The kink in our democratic chain that leads to citizen distrust and despair.