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How do you think the gas gets back to the action?
It goes into a tube near the muzzle it then is directed back to the action.
When it hits that turn sending it back to the action it reduces the recoil.
Anyone who knows a quarter of what you pretend to knows this, why don't you?
You have just given a demonstration of what this thread is about.

Do you have a fucking clue what you are talking about?
Do you know physics at all?

When you fire a weapon that doesn't have some sort of gas operated reload you feel the entire recoil directly back into your shoulder. When you fire a gas operated weapon you feel almost the same recoil, the difference is miniscule, but it is in your shoulder and every other point where you are in contact with the gun and it makes the gun after go off target (the recoil operation is what makes semis rise after each shot).
Please at least learn something about what you are talking about.

Congratulations you have just beaten you all time stupid comment record.
Distributing the recoil means more recoil than sending it directly to you, how stupid can you be.
What you more closely talked about is a straight blow back automatic where some of the recoil is used to work the action.
This too lessens the recoil.
A bolt is more accurate in skilled hands and Marines wouldn't complain about recoil if it broke their shoulder.
The .223 was not designed to kill, it was designed to disable, a wounded enemy does more damage than a dead one.

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it doesn't even matter what the libs are doing.....it just doesn't....and the reason is because their is no real opposition to them. The republican party is all but in cahoots..... Red meat after piece of red meat is given to the republican and crickets are lucky to be heard....... You can scream about Obama, reid and Pelosi all you want.......but until the idea that the republican needs more moderates is blown out of the water? Get use to the idea that your liberties are going to be gone. Your guns, your property, you kids, your money, your life... GONE!

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Not only that, but many of the latest nutcases have in fact been left-wing Democrats, although it's important to recognize that a psycho is a psycho period. Leftists don't do that of course and so they brand every mass-killer as a conservative even if he's carrying Mao's Little Red Book in his pocket.

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BTW those people, who were disavowed by the militias.

I believe you are talking about the CSA West Virginia Militia or perhaps the Tri-Cities minutemen. But the latter will not fight nor comment on anything during tobacco, fishing and hunting season or on Saturday nights.

In fact McVeigh showed up at a couple of militia meetings and they ran him off. They considered him to be a nutcase.

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

Not only that, but many of the latest nutcases have in fact been left-wing Democrats, although it's important to recognize that a psycho is a psycho period. Leftists don't do that of course and so they brand every mass-killer as a conservative even if he's carrying Mao's Little Red Book in his pocket.

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BTW those people, who were disavowed by the militias.

I believe you are talking about the CSA West Virginia Militia or perhaps the Tri-Cities minutemen. But the latter will not fight nor comment on anything during tobacco, fishing and hunting season or on Saturday nights.

In fact McVeigh showed up at a couple of militia meetings and they ran him off. They considered him to be a nutcase.

Yes, I know, I have even have some morons claim that the unibomber was a right winger and you saw Joether say that the Tea Party think like McVeigh.

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In leftist ideology, every killer is a "right-winger." Of course, they say this while wearing their Che T-Shirts and reading hagiographies of that terrorist and child killer.

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In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.

The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.

I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.

Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?

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In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.

The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.

I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.

Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.

The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.

I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.

Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?

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In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.

The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.

I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.

Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?

The far right is following the constitution...the definition of conservative......is a very strict interpretation of the constitution and the founding the document....The right wing is so far left, conservatism isn't even an option....Liberal, is not a term of freedom in this country, THE DEFINITION is a very loose, and as of right now, outright ignoring the constitution.....ITs the dems who need to come to the center....the republican need to get farther right.

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

In leftist ideology, ever killer is a killer. Period. The fact that they're left leaning or right leaning might simply add to motivation, it doesn't make it right. And I'm not entirely sure who Che is and what hagiographies you think I'm reading, but you're clearly clueless. I don't believe all right wingers are killers, extremists, or tea partiers, just as I dont believe the same as those on the left. If those on the left committed horrible crimes, I'd condemn them just as I would any right winger.

The problem with right wingers these days is that those who actively supporting the tea party/far right do come off as extremists. What they say isn't too different from what Al Queda says, except you simply have to replace The Quran with The Bible. If the repubs dont come back to the centre, it's unlikely they'll ever win another presidency, because most people aren't that extreme.

I as a Liberal dont hate conservatives, and in fact I find more centrist and logical conservative ideology quite convincing at times. But these days, the right wing is not logical, they're ideological and they are for a lack of a better word, extremists. Hell, you got militia members threatening to shoot government officials at a ranch, and similar people threatening to shoot children trying to come to your country for a better life. If that doesnt speak of extremism, I dont know what does.

Sure, there are left wing terrorists too, and while I understand why they do what they do, they're actions to achieve what they desire is completely wrong and they should be rightfully punished for it. The world can function without the need of extremism on both sides, and to blanket all liberals as people who are hypocrites about killers is completely wrong. I doubt you actually care about accuracy, because for you it's about vilifying the opposition. You are not an enemy of liberals, you are a person with a particular perspective. But you live with people in a world who share opposite perspectives, and if you can't learn to compromise and reach a moderate middle ground, then what's the point of politics? Seriously? Why not just start killing the people you disagree with? Go the full 9 yards and go full terrorist?

There are plenty of left wing bible thumpers. The Tea Party's main idealogical premise is fiscal common sense. I know you lefties have a problem with fiscal common sense so you make shit up to paint them with. All the crap you're trying to paint the Tea Party with is just leftist talking points garbage. And who was it that threatened to shoot children coming into the country ? Ya got a link to that or is that just more talking points garbage ?

Oh, and Che was one of Castros henchmen.

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The border crisis is nobody else's problem other than the Potus......but of course they hate that little thing called the constitution......

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The border crisis is nobody else's problem other than the Potus......but of course they hate that little thing called the constitution......

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The border crisis is nobody else's problem other than the Potus......but of course they hate that little thing called the constitution......

Yes, it is his problem...except the republican congress won't give him the funds to deal with the problem...ya, it is his problem, one that you're representatives refuse to let him solve because they're too busy playing politics

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ORIGINAL: dryhump

The border crisis is nobody else's problem other than the Potus......but of course they hate that little thing called the constitution......

Yes, it is his problem...except the republican congress won't give him the funds to deal with the problem...ya, it is his problem, one that you're representatives refuse to let him solve because they're too busy playing politics

Oh, they won't give him the funds to fix the border he said was totally secure, back in 2011? Did it suddenly break down in 3 years?

Washington Post - Obama says border is secure, now let's legalize the illegals

Amazing, some people's attention span...